Should We Imitate the Catholic, Orthodox Saints and Protestant “Esteemed” Christians?

Despite my recent posts in this thread while I didn't part ways with Catholics I certainly parted ways with the Catholic Church. Started to seriously question a lot of the doctrine after reading my first bible given to me as a Christmas gift in my early teens.

If you're coming here pushing Catholic ideas be ready for a fight.

When I say "parted ways" I mean doctrinally. I have nothing against anyone personally.

However, here's the rub. Catholics expect to be accepted and welcomed as brothers and sisters in the Lord. We can work out our differences they say, but it must come from a place of brotherhood and mutual acceptance. That's a problem. The Catholic Jesus is a different Jesus from the One in the scriptures. So long as someone believes in a false Jesus there can't be mutual brotherhood and fellowship. It's like saying to a Muslim, come brother, let's work out our differences. After all, we both love God don't we?

I learned a long time ago that unless a Catholic comes to understand their sect is false from the ground up there's no point in arguing with them.

While I believe it's certainly true that there are saved Catholics, the religion itself has so many heresies, NO ONE should be a member.

I went to 8 yrs catholic school, and most of my very large extended family remain Catholic, albeit most are wishy washy Chreesters. (Christmas and Easter) adherents.

This is a partial list of what I believe are damnable heresies taught by their church.

1. Praying to Mary

2. Making Mary a co redemptrix

3. Praying the rosary

4. Praying to "saints"

5. Transubstantiation

6. Purgatory

7. CONTINUED indulgences

8. Teaching that a priest is a necessary mediator for confession of sins AND absolution of sins through assigning rote repetition of the Hail Mary and Our Father.

9. Inerrancy of the pope, and teaching that he is Christ's representative on Earth.


There are more, but these listed are so serious that it is imperative to flee this cultish religion.

The site owner is absolutely correct that this false religion should not be lifted up or taught here.

ebdesroches, now do you see what he was trying to tell you?

You still owe him a thank you for trying to give you a heads up.

While I believe it's certainly true that there are saved Catholics, the religion itself has so many heresies, NO ONE should be a member.

I went to 8 yrs catholic school, and most of my very large extended family remain Catholic, albeit most are wishy washy Chreesters. (Christmas and Easter) adherents.

This is a partial list of what I believe are damnable heresies taught by their church.

1. Praying to Mary

2. Making Mary a co redemptrix

3. Praying the rosary

4. Praying to "saints"

5. Transubstantiation

6. Purgatory

7. CONTINUED indulgences

8. Teaching that a priest is a necessary mediator for confession of sins AND absolution of sins through assigning rote repetition of the Hail Mary and Our Father.

9. Inerrancy of the pope, and teaching that he is Christ's representative on Earth.


There are more, but these listed are so serious that it is imperative to flee this cultish religion.

The site owner is absolutely correct that this false religion should not be lifted up or taught here.

Totaly agree, Jesus first, our lord and brother, and then those that have fallen so in love with Him that are saints and “esteemed” brothers and sisters we dint dare to call saints.

On the other hand, I would like to know how I can get in on those indulgences...

On the other hand, I would like to know how I can get in on those indulgences...

While I believe it's certainly true that there are saved Catholics

The only way there can be a saved Catholic is if they aren't Catholic.

The only way there can be a saved Catholic is if they aren't Catholic.[/

We see through a glass darkly. (A pause for humility?)

The basics of our faith are set we all agree to them. There are also things we can disagree about. Catholics agree to the essentials of the faith.

Jesus prayed that we would all be one that believe in the essentials

The only way there can be a saved Catholic is if they aren't Catholic.

Are you saying that the shed blood of Jesus dying on the cross for our sins is not sufficient for Catholics?

The only way there can be a saved Catholic is if they aren't Catholic.

I have catholic in laws that believe that it’s the sacrifice that Jesus paid that saves them from their sins. That can’t be taken away from them…

There are definitely nice Roman Catholic people.

In fact, most of the people who have been the nicest/kindest to me throughout my entire lifetime were/are Roman Catholics.

That said, I've still shared the true gospel with all of them and given many of them, if not all of them, Bibles.

Of course it is. But Catholics don't believe the shed blood of Jesus on the cross is sufficient. They're real faith is in the wafer Jesus. This Jesus must be crucified and consumed day after day, year after year to maintain one's state of grace. This is clearly not the Jesus of the Bible.

If a Catholic repents of their worship of the wafer (which is idolatry really), and truly turns to the real Christ, then absolutely, His shed blood is more than sufficient.

Of course it is. But Catholics don't believe the shed blood of Jesus on the cross is sufficient. They're real faith is in the wafer Jesus. This Jesus must be crucified and consumed day after day, year after year to maintain one's state of grace. This is clearly not the Jesus of the Bible.

If a Catholic repents of their worship of the wafer (which is idolatry really), and truly turns to the real Christ, then absolutely, His shed blood is more than sufficient.