Anxious thoughts

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CharliRenee

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I used to know someone in a chat room long ago who said "Hugs to you."

This is off topic, and frankly none of my business, but... What country are you in?
Hi lynx, cool to know. I am in Arizona..you can find me on fbook. Probably shouldn't say that, but yes AZ, USA. I reckon lots of ppl say hugs to you, no?
 

Lynx

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Hi lynx, cool to know. I am in Arizona..you can find me on fbook. Probably shouldn't say that, but yes AZ, USA. I reckon lots of ppl say hugs to you, no?
Apparently so...

The person who used to say it in chat was in scotland, and as I have never heard anybody else say it I thought maybe it was endemic to that region. Guess not.
 

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The verse of the day in the YouVersion bible is about anxiety. I don't know about you, but I can use all the help I can get when it comes to this particular, often self inflicted, burden….

Anxiety in the heart weighs me down, causing my spirit to curdle and frown.

Anxious, over-stimulated with internal chatter…
I need to redirect to what really matters.

I am grateful for His guidance back to quieter reflections, where I don't obsess on life's imperfections.

Oh Lord, I thank You, time and time again in Your domain, Your countenance reigns.

I choose Your embrace to alter my estate, and release the encumbering thoughts, no longer are they the dominant bait.

With You…

O Lord, my heart is not lifted up; my eyes are not raised too high; I do not occupy myself with things too great and too marvelous for me. But I have calmed and quieted my soul, like a weaned child with its mother; like a weaned child is my soul within me.
Psalm 131:1‭-‬2 ESV


Ahhhh…deep breath of Yaweh!!!


Phil 4 is helpful too, thank You!!!!
Thanks for your poem
 

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I have dealt with anxiety off and on for the last 3-4 yr.s . PTSD had played its roll on my mind and heart. But definitely God is changing my outlook and learning to be content. I don't have to know everything, but have to daily put everything in his hands.Plus figure part of menopause is anxiety . Thing is I don't have to keep any part of it , God is healing me from all things That cause me to fret and worry. I can only please God daily and I am ok with that hugssss!
Thought about you and deb and this post today in dealing with some stuff. Thanks again, for reminding me who needs the pleasing.
 

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With me it's all about perspective. I talk about things as though they are over and dealt with even before i walk through them. I actually taught my friend to do the same and they are easily the most anxious and fearful person i know, but already in two weeks their entire job situation has changed. Before they were always being picked last for things or scolded for not doing things right and overall just negative but now it's completely the opposite.

What i taught her to do was to spend about 5 minutes each morning imagining that the day already went well even before she went to work but to also recieve nothing from the day, only walking through the day/work coming from what she imagined. Again before bed imagine that the day went well and then sleep and repeat again the next day/night over and over again. What this actually does is it changes you to into being a reciever of those things you imagined, it seems stupid but its actually principles based on Romans 12:2,Proverbs 23:7 and Proverbs 4:23.

The thing about anxiety is it renews your mind to negative things transforming you so that they have rights to manifest or stay in your life. I have a friend like this, he is so conformed/ transformed by negative imaginations that stuff just magically manifests on him in a matter of minutes to confirm what he already is/believes. You can change it though by choosing not to react to it the same way but reacting to it based on what you want because when you change it will too.

I remember when i was sick i had to get down to the very bottom of why i wanted to get better and the ultimate reason and conclusion i came up with was so that i may have peace. Once i began to treat my illness as though i recieved peace from it being gone it left because i was no longer serving its old purpose of being reactant to it causing me pain and anxiety. So yeah, you have the power and authority to do stuff but it's all in the mind first.
 

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With me it's all about perspective. I talk about things as though they are over and dealt with even before i walk through them. I actually taught my friend to do the same and they are easily the most anxious and fearful person i know, but already in two weeks their entire job situation has changed. Before they were always being picked last for things or scolded for not doing things right and overall just negative but now it's completely the opposite.

What i taught her to do was to spend about 5 minutes each morning imagining that the day already went well even before she went to work but to also recieve nothing from the day, only walking through the day/work coming from what she imagined. Again before bed imagine that the day went well and then sleep and repeat again the next day/night over and over again. What this actually does is it changes you to into being a reciever of those things you imagined, it seems stupid but its actually principles based on Romans 12:2,Proverbs 23:7 and Proverbs 4:23.

The thing about anxiety is it renews your mind to negative things transforming you so that they have rights to manifest or stay in your life. I have a friend like this, he is so conformed/ transformed by negative imaginations that stuff just magically manifests on him in a matter of minutes to confirm what he already is/believes. You can change it though by choosing not to react to it the same way but reacting to it based on what you want because when you change it will too.

I remember when i was sick i had to get down to the very bottom of why i wanted to get better and the ultimate reason and conclusion i came up with was so that i may have peace. Once i began to treat my illness as though i recieved peace from it being gone it left because i was no longer serving its old purpose of being reactant to it causing me pain and anxiety. So yeah, you have the power and authority to do stuff but it's all in the mind first.
Wow, this is awesome. Thank you!!!
 
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With me it's all about perspective. I talk about things as though they are over and dealt with even before i walk through them. I actually taught my friend to do the same and they are easily the most anxious and fearful person i know, but already in two weeks their entire job situation has changed. Before they were always being picked last for things or scolded for not doing things right and overall just negative but now it's completely the opposite.

What i taught her to do was to spend about 5 minutes each morning imagining that the day already went well even before she went to work but to also recieve nothing from the day, only walking through the day/work coming from what she imagined. Again before bed imagine that the day went well and then sleep and repeat again the next day/night over and over again. What this actually does is it changes you to into being a reciever of those things you imagined, it seems stupid but its actually principles based on Romans 12:2,Proverbs 23:7 and Proverbs 4:23.

The thing about anxiety is it renews your mind to negative things transforming you so that they have rights to manifest or stay in your life. I have a friend like this, he is so conformed/ transformed by negative imaginations that stuff just magically manifests on him in a matter of minutes to confirm what he already is/believes. You can change it though by choosing not to react to it the same way but reacting to it based on what you want because when you change it will too.

I remember when i was sick i had to get down to the very bottom of why i wanted to get better and the ultimate reason and conclusion i came up with was so that i may have peace. Once i began to treat my illness as though i recieved peace from it being gone it left because i was no longer serving its old purpose of being reactant to it causing me pain and anxiety. So yeah, you have the power and authority to do stuff but it's all in the mind first.
What do you mean in the last paragraph that you received peace from it being gone and it's old purpose of being reactant to it? Just wondering because I feel like God has been trying to show me something that I am not quite understanding fully yet.
 

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What do you mean in the last paragraph that you received peace from it being gone and it's old purpose of being reactant to it? Just wondering because I feel like God has been trying to show me something that I am not quite understanding fully yet.

I had learned at the time what the old purpose of the illness had for me and it was to keep me acting and responding to it in a way that affirmed and validated it. Old purpose was also who i used to be as a served it.
I was serving its purpose by maybe praying more or asking God to heal me as a response to the symptoms or whatever i was feeling rather than receiving contrary to what it was doing. I had learned how not to be "AS" what it wanted because for once in my life i saw what it wanted. It's like if i keep poking you with a sharp stick i expect you to recieve it and jump and scream begging God to make me stop, not for you to realize and register that what im doing is a past thing that your free from giving you peace. It's like if you keep responding contrary to each and every one of my stick poke attacks not only are you not respecting my old purpose for you but you're also retraining your mind on how to respond and feel resisting me, and because of this i can't stay.

We are not according to or "AFTER" our flesh anymore, actually we are dead to the flesh because of what Christ did which is past tense so whatever the body is now saying on its own accord is always old news so i acted contrary to whatever goofy nonsense it tried to lead me around with.

When i started operating out of the peace of it being gone on a day to day basis i noticed these subtle changes first in my mind and then in my body, both became stronger. The funny thing is when you just operate out of the peace, that's all you need, the physical manifestation just shows up to support it and when it comes you'll be like "oh" because you were already living from there before you got there.
 

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I had learned at the time what the old purpose of the illness had for me and it was to keep me acting and responding to it in a way that affirmed and validated it. Old purpose was also who i used to be as a served it.
I was serving its purpose by maybe praying more or asking God to heal me as a response to the symptoms or whatever i was feeling rather than receiving contrary to what it was doing. I had learned how not to be "AS" what it wanted because for once in my life i saw what it wanted. It's like if i keep poking you with a sharp stick i expect you to recieve it and jump and scream begging God to make me stop, not for you to realize and register that what im doing is a past thing that your free from giving you peace. It's like if you keep responding contrary to each and every one of my stick poke attacks not only are you not respecting my old purpose for you but you're also retraining your mind on how to respond and feel resisting me, and because of this i can't stay.

We are not according to or "AFTER" our flesh anymore, actually we are dead to the flesh because of what Christ did which is past tense so whatever the body is now saying on its own accord is always old news so i acted contrary to whatever goofy nonsense it tried to lead me around with.

When i started operating out of the peace of it being gone on a day to day basis i noticed these subtle changes first in my mind and then in my body, both became stronger. The funny thing is when you just operate out of the peace, that's all you need, the physical manifestation just shows up to support it and when it comes you'll be like "oh" because you were already living from there before you got there.
I suppose you are saying faith it till you make it, believing in Him already calming to the point that your mind and body follow? Well, I look forward to this kind of peace. Today I made a mistake at work and I have been stressing. Not sure how to not be, because I making mistakes isn't ok at work. I will have to move forward though becauae there is nothing i can do about it now, but give it to God.
 

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I suppose you are saying faith it till you make it, believe in Him already calming to the point that your mind and body follow?
I'm thinking more of realizing that, somehow, I'm looking at it wrongly. For example, when I'm anxious God isn't with me, I realize He will never leave me nor forsake me. Or when I think I'm just a grasshopper I realize I making the giants nervous when I approach their territory, etc.
 
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I had learned at the time what the old purpose of the illness had for me and it was to keep me acting and responding to it in a way that affirmed and validated it. Old purpose was also who i used to be as a served it.
I was serving its purpose by maybe praying more or asking God to heal me as a response to the symptoms or whatever i was feeling rather than receiving contrary to what it was doing. I had learned how not to be "AS" what it wanted because for once in my life i saw what it wanted. It's like if i keep poking you with a sharp stick i expect you to recieve it and jump and scream begging God to make me stop, not for you to realize and register that what im doing is a past thing that your free from giving you peace. It's like if you keep responding contrary to each and every one of my stick poke attacks not only are you not respecting my old purpose for you but you're also retraining your mind on how to respond and feel resisting me, and because of this i can't stay.

We are not according to or "AFTER" our flesh anymore, actually we are dead to the flesh because of what Christ did which is past tense so whatever the body is now saying on its own accord is always old news so i acted contrary to whatever goofy nonsense it tried to lead me around with.

When i started operating out of the peace of it being gone on a day to day basis i noticed these subtle changes first in my mind and then in my body, both became stronger. The funny thing is when you just operate out of the peace, that's all you need, the physical manifestation just shows up to support it and when it comes you'll be like "oh" because you were already living from there before you got there.
Thanks Goowz for your response. I want to ask you a couple of more questions if you dont mind as this is similar as to what God has being saying to me recently too as in the last month or so. It is morning time Sat here in Aus and I need to get to the shops and do some food shopping so I will type them up later on today if you dont mind and post.
 
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I suppose you are saying faith it till you make it, believing in Him already calming to the point that your mind and body follow? Well, I look forward to this kind of peace. Today I made a mistake at work and I have been stressing. Not sure how to not be, because I making mistakes isn't ok at work. I will have to move forward though becauae there is nothing i can do about it now, but give it to God.
I think faith it till you make it implies you dont have it yet but if you have enough faith it will manifest itself in time depending on your faith. I used to be under that teaching but I find that God has been speaking to me differently lately.
You said you made a mistake at work and no doubt your mind is fearing the results. The "what if's" What if i lose my job, get in trouble and all the other negative thoughts the devil throws as darts into our minds. I think the trick is Ok you made a mistake at work and the regular outcome is get in trouble etc etc. But God says cast your cares onto him as he cares for you (takes care of it for you). So now the result of what happens is in Gods hands not the employers hands. Also God says you have favour ( I dont know all the favour verses). So when the negative fearful thoughts come disregard them as they are irrelevant. Your new result is God is taking care of it now and you have favour. Change your thinking and let God change the results. It is a battle I know and really hard as you are having to break your patterns of thinking which is influenced by your past, the flesh, the devil. I am in the middle of it now and dont like it but I want better results.
 

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I think faith it till you make it implies you dont have it yet but if you have enough faith it will manifest itself in time depending on your faith. I used to be under that teaching but I find that God has been speaking to me differently lately.
You said you made a mistake at work and no doubt your mind is fearing the results. The "what if's" What if i lose my job, get in trouble and all the other negative thoughts the devil throws as darts into our minds. I think the trick is Ok you made a mistake at work and the regular outcome is get in trouble etc etc. But God says cast your cares onto him as he cares for you (takes care of it for you). So now the result of what happens is in Gods hands not the employers hands. Also God says you have favour ( I dont know all the favour verses). So when the negative fearful thoughts come disregard them as they are irrelevant. Your new result is God is taking care of it now and you have favour. Change your thinking and let God change the results. It is a battle I know and really hard as you are having to break your patterns of thinking which is influenced by your past, the flesh, the devil. I am in the middle of it now and dont like it but I want better results.
Wasn't sure which response, useful or hearts. You touch my heart and relieved my tendency to panic, so useful. I appreciate your taking the time to fellowship with me about this today. I truly do. I am going to take your advice and give it to Him and walk in gratitude for His favour, knowing whatever happens, happens and He has me. Thanks again, Ruby, it's always such a comfort knowing brothers and sisters in Christ are in this together.

God Bless, Dear Ruby. I appreciate you.
 

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I'm thinking more of realizing that, somehow, I'm looking at it wrongly. For example, when I'm anxious God isn't with me, I realize He will never leave me nor forsake me. Or when I think I'm just a grasshopper I realize I making the giants nervous when I approach their territory, etc.
Readjust the way we look at things, calling scripture or thinking reasonably, meditating on constructive thinking instead of whatever anxious thought is consuming. Yes, very useful, ty!!!
 

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Thanks Goowz for your response. I want to ask you a couple of more questions if you dont mind as this is similar as to what God has being saying to me recently too as in the last month or so. It is morning time Sat here in Aus and I need to get to the shops and do some food shopping so I will type them up later on today if you dont mind and post.
I want to see this post, and your and his thoughts, so I will be looking....
 

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My anxiety never took me out during the day as I bottled up everything and kept going, what it would do was wake me up in the middle of the night and I would pace back and forth like a caged animal. I would have a hard time breathing and feel like I was going to die just so anxious and a mess. Even went to the emergency room once and they told me I was having an anxiety attack.

That didn't make me feel much better just thought I was going nuts then. But I grew out of it and started breathing in a brown paper bag to help regulate my breathing and would go lay down in my daughters bed with her even though she couldn't help me it would calm me down.

It was the stress of life being a single mom and having all the responsibilities on my shoulders. house payments, car payments, child care, raising a daughter alone and keeping food on the table.

Fast forward many years and daughter is raised, I am married, older and no longer have the stress I delt with in my younger years. Yes, there is still some stress but I haven't had an anxiety attack since I was in my 40's and now I'm 67 and loving life. Too, I think as you get older you learn to not sweat the small stuff and take life at it comes at you with a lot more grace and understanding. Somewhere along the line I also learned that maybe, just maybe I should let God shoulder more of the burdens than I had let Him have in the past.

So any advice I could pass along would be learn at a much younger age that you should cast all your cares and burdens on God because He wants you to do just that and learn to trust that He will carry the load for you and wants to do just that.
 

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My anxiety never took me out during the day as I bottled up everything and kept going, what it would do was wake me up in the middle of the night and I would pace back and forth like a caged animal. I would have a hard time breathing and feel like I was going to die just so anxious and a mess. Even went to the emergency room once and they told me I was having an anxiety attack.

That didn't make me feel much better just thought I was going nuts then. But I grew out of it and started breathing in a brown paper bag to help regulate my breathing and would go lay down in my daughters bed with her even though she couldn't help me it would calm me down.

It was the stress of life being a single mom and having all the responsibilities on my shoulders. house payments, car payments, child care, raising a daughter alone and keeping food on the table.

Fast forward many years and daughter is raised, I am married, older and no longer have the stress I delt with in my younger years. Yes, there is still some stress but I haven't had an anxiety attack since I was in my 40's and now I'm 67 and loving life. Too, I think as you get older you learn to not sweat the small stuff and take life at it comes at you with a lot more grace and understanding. Somewhere along the line I also learned that maybe, just maybe I should let God shoulder more of the burdens than I had let Him have in the past.

So any advice I could pass along would be learn at a much younger age that you should cast all your cares and burdens on God because He wants you to do just that and learn to trust that He will carry the load for you and wants to do just that.
Wow thank you for sharing this. I am honored. It makes me happy knowing yoi are enjoying life now and are at peace. I am getting up there too. I am learning more and more, though, about the not sweating the small stuff and going to Him. I am encouraged though to be reminded to lean in and on the difference maker, as you said let God shoulder. He has shown me over and over is the One equipped. I am not where you are, not yet. With His help, I am hopeful!!!

Thanks again, truly!!!!
 

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I suppose you are saying faith it till you make it, believing in Him already calming to the point that your mind and body follow? Well, I look forward to this kind of peace. Today I made a mistake at work and I have been stressing. Not sure how to not be, because I making mistakes isn't ok at work. I will have to move forward though becauae there is nothing i can do about it now, but give it to God.
I have this mindset to where im not committed to change things, im committed to changing me, my imaginations of them and my reactions, responses and treatments of them. When the truth of something is based on how you're treating it you can overlook the lies of its vain ignorant behaviors and rest in the peaceful truth of how you're treating it. You keep your attention on you because you have Christ/God the truth within you that makes you the truth, you don't need to be looking at anything else but what you're doing/treating and imagining things to be because you are that evidence of things unseen.

The body has no choice but to obey and respond to truth. I remember when my stomach was basically skrewed up to the point where i could barely drink and i couldn't eat at all. Every day for several days i would just sit at the kitchen table with an empty bowl and spoon and i would simulate eating for 20 minutes once in the morning and once in the evening. I honestly thought i was going to die and i was also fighting with thoughts about ending myself because starvation and dehydrating to death is ugly.

I figured if im going out might as well do it with Romans 12:2 and Hebrews 11:1 tatted on my chest lol. If faith is the substance of things hoped for the evidence of things not seen i was focused on making it seen by God because i was pretty much fed up and tired of asking Him over and over again to heal me only to have my hope deferred.

It's like i can't see what you're saying about me already being healed but ok, because this is about YOUR beliefs about me watch me simulate eating, maybe then you'll allow me to fill this bowl so i can eat for real. After a week and a half someone just randomly tells me "you should just eat what you want". I didn't even tell them about what i was going through so i knew that was a que from God through that person so it's like "ok then" and i started eating and ive been eating just fine ever since.

So in a way yes i am calm off of what Jesus did but at the same time im also calming and satisfied off of my own actions, responses and treatments of things.

As for your mistake at work, you made a mistake on the outside, take it with grace, you're allowed to make mistakes no sense in crucifying yourself. When i make mistakes i tell people straight up that im allowed to make mistakes sometimes and that im not going to crucify myself over it. I tell it to them because im basically saying that im not going to be bound to it because believe it or not there are some people out there who have the sole intent of getting people to internalize stuff like that. Also as you forgive yourself forgive others when they mess up it's liberating for both them and for you too.
 
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I have this mindset to where im not committed to change things, im committed to changing me, my imaginations of them and my reactions, responses and treatments of them. When the truth of something is based on how you're treating it you can overlook the lies of its vain ignorant behaviors and rest in the peaceful truth of how you're treating it. You keep your attention on you because you have Christ/God the truth within you that makes you the truth, you don't need to be looking at anything else but what you're doing/treating and imagining things to be because you are that evidence of things unseen.

The body has no choice but to obey and respond to truth. I remember when my stomach was basically skrewed up to the point where i could barely drink and i couldn't eat at all. Every day for several days i would just sit at the kitchen table with an empty bowl and spoon and i would simulate eating for 20 minutes once in the morning and once in the evening. I honestly thought i was going to die and i was also fighting with thoughts about ending myself because starvation and dehydrating to death is ugly.

I figured if im going out might as well do it with Romans 12:2 and Hebrews 11:1 tatted on my chest lol. If faith is the substance of things hoped for the evidence of things not seen i was focused on making it seen by God because i was pretty much fed up and tired of asking Him over and over again to heal me only to have my hope deferred.

It's like i can't see what you're saying about me already being healed but ok, because this is about YOUR beliefs about me watch me simulate eating, maybe then you'll allow me to fill this bowl so i can eat for real. After a week and a half someone just randomly tells me "you should just eat what you want". I didn't even tell them about what i was going through so i knew that was a que from God through that person so it's like "ok then" and i started eating and ive been eating just fine ever since.

So in a way yes i am calm off of what Jesus did but at the same time im also calming and satisfied off of my own actions, responses and treatments of things.

As for your mistake at work, you made a mistake on the outside, take it with grace, you're allowed to make mistakes no sense in crucifying yourself. When i make mistakes i tell people straight up that im allowed to make mistakes sometimes and that im not going to crucify myself over it. I tell it to them because im basically saying that im not going to be bound to it because believe it or not there are some people out there who have the sole intent of getting people to internalize stuff like that. Also as you forgive yourself forgive others when they mess up it's liberating for both them and for you too.
I am not quite getting what you mean in paragraph one or the part where you said you are calm off what Jesus did and calm and satisfied off my own actions, responses and treamtments of things. Could you explain what you mean and maybe give examples?
Sorry to be a pain.