Hell's Population Clock

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
Nov 26, 2021
1,125
545
113
India
Yes, Hell exists and is eternal. That it may be terrifying is no reason to deny God's Clear Word, but, first of all, to be saved from sin and reconciled to God ourselves, through Jesus Christ Our Lord, and then tirelessly to Pray, Fast, Work and Evangelize so that other souls may come to Him and be saved. In the modern world, we've lost imho much of the Missionary Zeal that the First Apostles, and even many of the Missionaries of earlier centuries had. Let us Pray for Revival and for greater outreach efforts to win the lost and bring them to Christ.

God Bless.
 

Webers.Home

Well-known member
May 28, 2018
5,893
1,084
113
Oregon
.
Matt 13:10 . . And the disciples came and said to him: Why do you speak
to them in parables?

Jesus answered their inquiry by referring to an incident in the 6th chapter of
Isaiah's prophecy wherein God had lost interest in numbers of His people
because they had lost interest in Him.

The Jews' spiritual condition was little different in Jesus' day, i.e. many were
called but few chosen, and that's because the many were indifferent; which
is not the appropriate response.

1Sam 3:19 . .The Lord was with Samuel as he grew up, and he let none of
His words fall to the ground.


Pop Clock Update: 2,749 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If
the figures in post No.1 are within reason, then something like 161,039,169
new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since December 10,
2014.
_
 

Chester

Senior Member
May 23, 2016
4,319
1,448
113
.
Matt 13:10 . . And the disciples came and said to him: Why do you speak
to them in parables?


Jesus answered their inquiry by referring to an incident in the 6th chapter of
Isaiah's prophecy wherein God had lost interest in numbers of His people
because they had lost interest in Him.


The Jews' spiritual condition was little different in Jesus' day, i.e. many were
called but few chosen, and that's because the many were indifferent; which
is not the appropriate response.


1Sam 3:19 . .The Lord was with Samuel as he grew up, and he let none of
His words fall to the ground.


Pop Clock Update: 2,749 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If
the figures in post No.1 are within reason, then something like 161,039,169
new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since December 10,
2014.
_
Most likely your figures are very, very low. I would estimate the numbers to close to twice the amount: maybe more like 260,000,000 by now.
 

Webers.Home

Well-known member
May 28, 2018
5,893
1,084
113
Oregon
.
Most likely your figures are very, very low. I would estimate the numbers to
close to twice the amount: maybe more like 260,000,000 by now.

My numbers began with 2014 AD which is very recent in the grand scheme
of things. Can you just imagine the possible number of folk languishing in
the netherworld beginning all the way back to the dawn of Man?
_
 

Webers.Home

Well-known member
May 28, 2018
5,893
1,084
113
Oregon
.
FAQ: What is meant by soul?

REPLY: Soul began appearing in the Bible in the book of Genesis by the
Hebrew word nephesh (neh'-fesh) which isn't unique to human life. Its first
appearance is at Gen 1:20-21 in reference to aqua creatures and winged
creatures; again at Gen 1:24 as terra creatures; viz: cattle, creepy crawlies,
and wild beasts; and again in Gen 2:7 as the human creature; and yet again
at Gen 9:10 to classify every living thing aboard Noah's ark.

* God is said to have a soul. (Lev 26:11, Lev 26:30, Judg 10:16, Isa 42:1, Jer
32:41, and Zech 11:8)

Soul is somewhat ambiguous but basically refers to consciousness, self
awareness, and individuality. It's sometimes a reference to one's heart, e.g.
Gen 34:3, and to the core of one's being, e.g. Gen 27:4.

All in all, soul is just another way of referring to that part of human life that
we call "self" which can be roughly defined as the who that you are.

Jesus' followers can expect to retain their souls when they pass on, but
things are not looking good for the lost. According to Matt 10:28, people's
souls survive normal death, but do not survive Hell fire. That fact gives me
pause to question whether people condemned to the lake of fire-- depicted
by Rev 20:11-15 --will be aware of their circumstances in an environment
that destroys both soul and body.

NOTE: Apparently the rich man of Luke 16:19-31 wasn't in the Hell fire yet
when he spoke with Abraham because he's depicted as completely
sentient.


Pop Clock Update: 2,769 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If
the figures in post No.1 are within reason, then something like 162,210,789
new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since December 10,
2014.
_
 

Webers.Home

Well-known member
May 28, 2018
5,893
1,084
113
Oregon
.
Deut 34:5-6 . . Moses the servant of The Lord died there in the land of
Moab, according to the word of The Lord. And He buried him in the valley in
the land of Moab, opposite Beth-peor; but no man knows his burial place to
this day.

A very curious scene unfolded during Moses' burial.

Jude 1:9 . . Michael the archangel, when he disputed with the Devil and
argued about the body of Moses, did not dare to accuse him of blaspheme,
but said: "The Lord rebuke you."

* Though the passage above shows God responsible for Moses' burial, the
actual labor was apparently assigned.

Anyway; if the Devil would interfere with the burial of a holy man like Moses,
then I think we can safely assume he (or one of his minions) probably
interferes with the burials of ordinary folk too; and I should think the
smartest way for him to interfere is to ensure the minister comes out with
nothing useful in his eulogy; but instead with the usual mushy rhetoric by
which nobody hearing it can be saved. (Just goes to show that the Devil is
not above walking over the bones of the dead to get what he wants.)


Pop Clock Update: 2,788 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If
the figures in post No.1 are within reason, then something like 163,323,828
new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since December 10,
2014.
_
 
Jun 28, 2022
1,258
383
83
And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books. The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works. Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.
-Revelation 20:12-15
 

Webers.Home

Well-known member
May 28, 2018
5,893
1,084
113
Oregon
.
Ps 73:3-17 . . I was envious at the foolish, when I saw the prosperity of
the wicked. Until I went into the sanctuary of God; then understood I their
end.

Matt 16:26 . . For what profit is it to a man if he gains the whole world,
and loses his own soul? Or what will a man give in exchange for his soul?

It's been my observation that many of the powerful folks controlling
education, finance, manufacturing, governance, entertainment, food
production, health care, pharmaceuticals, etc, are quite lacking scruples,
and conduct their affairs as if foreign sovereigns with no one to answer to
beyond the sphere of their existnce. But of course they know something's
coming because God instilled that awareness within their ancestors' inner
being.

Gen 1:27 . . God created man in his own image, in the image of God
created He him; male and female created He them.


Pop Clock Update: 2,807 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If
the figures in post No.1 are within reason, then something like 164,436,867
new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since December 10,
2014.
_
 

Chester

Senior Member
May 23, 2016
4,319
1,448
113
.
Ps 73:3-17 . . I was envious at the foolish, when I saw the prosperity of
the wicked. Until I went into the sanctuary of God; then understood I their
end.


Matt 16:26 . . For what profit is it to a man if he gains the whole world,
and loses his own soul? Or what will a man give in exchange for his soul?


It's been my observation that many of the powerful folks controlling
education, finance, manufacturing, governance, entertainment, food
production, health care, pharmaceuticals, etc, are quite lacking scruples,
and conduct their affairs as if foreign sovereigns with no one to answer to
beyond the sphere of their existnce. But of course they know something's
coming because God instilled that awareness within their ancestors' inner
being.


Gen 1:27 . . God created man in his own image, in the image of God
created He him; male and female created He them.


Pop Clock Update: 2,807 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If
the figures in post No.1 are within reason, then something like 164,436,867
new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since December 10,
2014.
_
If my accountings of the present time are anywhere close, your population clock may soon end and hell will forever close its doors. No new entries and no exits - I do not want (nor do I want anyone) to have a life without parole sentence there. But the Bible is clear that many are so doomed! Let's tell them about Jesus!
 
Jul 5, 2020
35
27
18
Yes Hell indeed is very real I have had both dream visions of Hell and Heaven. Hell is a terrible separation from God. It is because God’s Presence is Holy fire and some cannot stand it and are alienated from his presence. Yet Jesus Christ’s name has power to save and your relationship to him is the only thing to get you out of it. Oh I pray Souls will find the Light Wisdom and Love! For he desires all wicked to repent and turn back to him follow his path of Purity, Gentleness Kindness , Holiness and Wisdom of the Heavens. Yet many choose not to! They hate God! Blaspheming him. They are wicked . Trampling the Son of Man! Disrespecting his great gift for them! Alienating themselves from his Glory! If you ask him to leave, he shall leave . As that time they asked him to leave in Jerusalem when he sent the demons into the pigs they asked Jesus to leave and he did! Oh what a terrible thing to be without Christ! Telling God to leave and he does! And you are abandoned to your wickedness and darkness.

They choose to slap him across his face disrespecting this great news of Salvation and Grace! Time is running out I believe the End times are near. Wrath and Judgement are coming soon. But also Salvation and immense Hope for Souls. Lord Jesus our Great God and Saviour and Bridegroom.

The Father God of Love and Holy fire speaks to us through Dreams! And his spirit which brings Scripture to life. When you seek and pray to him with all your heart and soul he will reveal himself and his spirit unto you.
For we shall not fear the dark when we are his and he is holding our hand, while we struggle in the dark against the dark forces of Evil.

Now For we must act in an Honourable and Noble way. We are now Christ’s bridegroom , loyal to him. The Father God is a Consuming fire who is alienated to those who do not humbly seek to know God or respect his Grace which he has offered unto us and they spit upon his face and his righteousness and wisdom. He is our Holy Saviour he reveals himself through dreams and vision. And through his Holy Spirit entering you. Pray for the holy Spirit to connect intimately with him for he wants a personal relationship with his Children, his Bridegroom which is us. For we are his chosen ones to be at the Marriage supper of the Lamb the King of Kings and Lord of Lords. And really pay attention to feeling who the Holy Spirit is entering you when he touches your Soul you will see things differently, from God’s perspective, in Christ’s eyes.


You become long suffering, broken hearted and filled with Wisdom and Purity in heart from Heaven. Plead the blood to have mercy upon your soul. For the flesh is weak but the spirit is willing. Put on white garment for this is Holy. If we confess our sins he is faithful to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. Repentance means being guilty for sin. This is evidence the Holy spirit is in you Convicting you of your weak Flesh. Sin which your mother did conceive you for if you say you are without sin you are a liar, for None is righteous but Christ we all fall short of his Holy standard which no man can meet perfectly Yet they can become ‘Like’ Christ. This doesn’t mean we will ever be the same as Christ. But we are glorifying HIM. He is the one who is glorified, through us. Him living in us, for his glory , he shall shine through us for the world to see the Holiness, Love and Wisdom of the Father. For we are facing sin and a very increasing Evil world which we are battling to overcome in Christ’s victory we are victorious Children of Light always depending like a child on Christ to be our guiding hand. For we are not seeking to glorify ourselves at all, and call ourselves good, for we are all guilty against God, our works are like rags before him.

We are all guilty of some sin even if we think we are not. Instead we are glorifying Christ alone, for he is who is doing the Good works through us, it is his spirit that is one with ours connected to ours to do the will of Father God. Any other spirit that is not God in us, is in opposition to God, and Christ must be given the Victory. For when we become a Christian we become Humble and broken , poor in spirit, walking in dark places , like his Disciples who were slaughtered by the Romans following the Lord’s weeping steps in Jerusalem, enduring and walking upon rough waters and we are fighting against a tide which is the Evils and distractions of the world. For he now lives in your soul and your spirit is now One with his spirit. Seek what is Heavenly first before what is Earthly. Crucifying the flesh with Christ and repenting of Unrighteousness. Singing to him in Chants. And Praying to him on our knees daily and nightly. Seeking visions and dreams. For he speaks to us through dreams!
For he is our Righteous Judge equal in Mercy Wrath and Holiness. He will repay each man according to what he has done.


The fruit of the Spirit is Kindness , Gentleness , Holiness, Love, Patience, Forgiveness, Self control. And to enter you must become Perfect and innocent like a little child, depending upon him, for everything
 

Webers.Home

Well-known member
May 28, 2018
5,893
1,084
113
Oregon
.
Gen 2:15-17 is a favorite among critics because Adam didn't drop dead
within 24 hours of tasting the forbidden fruit. In point of fact, he continued
to live outside the garden of Eden for another 800 years after the birth of his
son Seth. (Gen 5:4)

Some say Adam died a "spiritual" death, and that's true, but not entirely
true, viz: the explanation isn't misinformation, rather, it's missing
information.

Human life was created in the image and likeness of God. In other words;
human life came out of the box with immortality, i.e. with perpetual youth.
Adam lost immortality when he tasted the forbidden fruit, i.e. his body lost
its perpetual youth and began to age.

Adam's body became infected with mortality, which is a lingering death
rather than sudden death, i.e. mortality is slow, but very relentless: like
Arnold Swarzenegger's movie character "The Terminator"— mortality feels
neither pain nor pity, nor remorse nor fear; it cannot be reasoned with nor
can it be bargained with, and it absolutely will not stop-- ever! --until your
useless corpse is ready for burial.

Ecc 7:2 . . It is better to go to a house of mourning than to go to a house
of mirth, for death is the destiny of every man: the living should take this
seriously. (cf. Luke 12:16-21)


Pop Clock Update: 2,813 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If
the figures in post No.1 are within reason, then something like 164,788,353
new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since December 10,
2014.
_
 

Webers.Home

Well-known member
May 28, 2018
5,893
1,084
113
Oregon
.
1Cor 4:4 . . My conscience is clear, but that does not make me innocent.

Man was created with as near a divine conscience as a creature can be
given.

Gen 1:27 . . God created man in his own image, in the image of God
created he him. But then came the forbidden fruit incident by which man's
near-divine conscience underwent something that caused his conscience to
become humanistic.

Gen 3:22 . . The Lord God said: The man has now become like one of us,
knowing good and evil.

Man was able to discern between good and evil before his fall, but that was
by means of a conscience influenced by its maker. The forbidden fruit
incident altered Man's conscience to become his own influence, i.e. Man
became defensive, and he rationalizes a lot too. (Rom 2:14-15)

I think the writer of 1Cor 4:4 was well aware of just how tricky Man's
conscience can be so he was reluctant to insist upon his innocence-- a little
sophistry here and a little there, and even monsters like Communist China's
Xi Jinping and North Korea's Kim Jong-Un can be persuaded in their own
minds to believe themselves okay guys.

1 John 1:8 . . If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves

Jer 17:9-10 . .The heart is more deceitful than all else and is desperately
sick; who can understand it? . . . I, The Lord, search the heart, I test the
mind, even to give to each man according to his ways, according to the
results of his deeds.

BTW: Christ's crucifixion not only serves to save people from their sins, but
according to Heb 9:8-14 it saves them from their conscience too.


Pop Clock Update: 2,832 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If
the figures in post No.1 are within reason, then something like 165,901,392
new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since December 10,
2014.
_
 

Magenta

Senior Member
Jul 3, 2015
61,130
30,265
113
Ps 73:3-17 . . I was envious at the foolish, when I saw the prosperity of
the wicked. Until I went into the sanctuary of God; then understood I their
end.

Matt 16:26 . . For what profit is it to a man if he gains the whole world,
and loses his own soul? Or what will a man give in exchange for his soul?

Mark 8:35-36
 
P

persistent

Guest
-
According to Jesus Christ's testimony as an expert witness in all matters
pertaining to the afterlife; most of the world's responsible souls haven't been
making it to safety when they cross over to the other side.


†. Luke 13:22-24 . . And he went through the cities and villages, teaching,
and journeying toward Jerusalem. Then said one unto him, master, are there
few that be saved? And he said unto them: Strive to enter in at the strait
gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.


†. Matt 7:13-14 . . Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and
broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But
small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find
it.


†. Matt 22:14 . . For many are called, but few are chosen.

Webster's defines "many" as consisting of, or amounting to, a large but
indefinite number; while "few" is defined as consisting of, or amounting to,
only a small number; viz: relative to many then, few is the lesser. Bear with
me while I flesh this out.


According to the U.S. Census Bureau, the resident population of the United
States, projected to 12/10/14 at 03:35 pm New York time, was
approximately 319,408,600 with a death rate of approximately one every 12
seconds; which translates to an average of 7,200 American deaths of all
ages, races, and genders during just one 24-hour calendar day.


According to 2009 US Census data; roughly 27.3% of America's daily deaths
are under the age of 19, which would indicate that approximately 5,089 of
the current daily death rate of 7,200 per 24 hours are adults. Giving the
"many" the benefit of the doubt by limiting their maximum percentage to
51%, would indicate a minimum of 2,595 American adults transferring to
perdition every day: which translates to roughly 108 per hour.


That's a very conservative estimate as the Lord didn't really specify exact
percentages to represent the quantities of "few" and "many". But just think:
by the time CBS completes its half-hour evening news report, a bare-bones
minimum of 54 Americans become new arrivals in the fiery sector of the
netherworld.


Using the ratio of 2,595 condemned souls per 319,408,600 population:
computing the number of condemned souls worldwide from a currently
estimated global population of 7,210,485,300 people, would suggest
something like 58,581 new arrivals in the fiery sector of the netherworld
every 24 hours; which translates to 2,441 souls every sixty minutes on the
clock.


That rate would fill the 51,800 seats of the new Yankee Stadium to capacity
in roughly 21 hours and 13 minutes. In other words: if the world's daily
number of condemned souls started filing into the stadium at 06:00 am this
morning, then by 03:13 am tomorrow, the stadium would be full to capacity.


Christmas and New Year's are even worse. A study done of 26 years of
death certificates shows that coronary fatalities are, on average, 11.9%
higher on those days than any other days of the year; with non-heart deaths
spiking to 12.2% higher; and believe me folks, hell never closes; no, not at
all: it's open for business 24/7/365 nonstop and indifferent to global
warming, Wall Street crashes, massive layoffs, high school shootings,
terrorism, tsunamis, earthquakes, nuclear meltdowns, air, water, and soil
pollution, freeway pile-ups, brown-outs, threatened species, gasoline prices,
student debt, GMO, trade deficits, Federal debt, factory recalls,
overpopulation, desertification, genocides, revolutions, civil wars, acid rain,
road rage, conscious decoupling, ISIS, gay marriage, the crisis in Ukraine,
Obamacare, blood diamonds, fracking, twerking, Oprah's millions, and
Letterman's retirement.


If the Lord is a credible witness; then it's apparent that souls never stop
cascading into the pits of hell in an endless procession like the unbelievable
millions of poultry broilers passing annually through Tyson chicken
processing plants on their way to Wendy's, McDonalds, Carl's Junior, Jack in
the Box, Burger King, In-n-Out Burger, KFC, A&W, Arby's, Dairy Queen,
Taco Bell, et al; and to supermarkets and restaurants all over the USA and
wherever else Tyson vends its meats. The slaughtering, the butchering, the
packaging, and the shipping never stop.


========================================
Even though I say I have accepted Jesus as my savior and see the seriousness that is elucidated here I find myself really chuckling at the way you present such grave matter and then I say to myself are you really "SAVED". Great Post
 
Nov 26, 2021
1,125
545
113
India
We cannot treat the Loss of Souls - for which Jesus Christ shed His own Infinitely Precious Blood to purchase them, proving Each Soul is of Infinite Worth in His Sight - with flippancy. What we should be doing is praying, sacrificing, fasting and evangelizing so that as many souls as possible may be saved before time runs out. Saints have said they would like to delay their own entrance into Heaven by even thousands of years if by doing so they could win thousands more for Heaven. We should love God and love our neighbor like that and strive to help save as many Souls for the Lord as we can before time runs out. I remember Rick Warren's Dad, who died a holy death, said on his deathbed: "Win one more soul for Jesus!". Good man. Each one can reach one. It's what we're here to do; the woman at the well reached her whole town for the Lord.

God Bless.
 
Nov 26, 2021
1,125
545
113
India
Also, the OT Book of Maccabees (one of the Deuterocanonical books) says to go on praying even for the departed. God is outside of time, and knows everything from eternity past. He already knew of your prayers, for even, say, your great, great, grandfather, who died before you were born, before that grandfather died, and took them into account. Hence, rather than appearing to rejoice that 10s of billions of souls may burn in hell forever, it would imo be better to pray they accepted Christ before death and had their sins forgiven. It is always possible for God to have taken our foreseen prayers into account long ago. God Bless.

2 Macc 12:

[43] And making a gathering, he sent twelve thousand drachms of silver to Jerusalem for sacrifice to be offered for the sins of the dead, thinking well and religiously concerning the resurrection, [44] (For if he had not hoped that they that were slain should rise again, it would have seemed superfluous and vain to pray for the dead,) [45] And because he considered that they who had fallen asleep with godliness, had great grace laid up for them. [46] It is therefore a holy and wholesome thought to pray for the dead, that they may be loosed from sins.