What is entire santification?

What is entire santification?

I would say that it is the glorification that a child of God receives at the end of their earthly life.

We are completely justified when we first come to the Lord and plead the Blood of Jesus. He sees us through the blood of His Son.


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I have encountered Free Methodist and others who claim they have it in this life.

Christian perfection is one view: https://2013.manual.nazarene.org/index/entire-sanctification/
http://www.ntslibrary.com/wesley_plain_account_of_christian_perfection.pdf

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I agree with you brother, friend.

At what point does it become false doctrine?

https://www.gotquestions.org/entire-sanctification.html
https://dwellcc.org/learning/essays/five-views-sanctification#keswick-view
google Entire sanctification heresy

https://biblereasons.com/sinless-perfectionism/

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Sinless Perfectionism is Unbiblical
However, the Bible also says that ‘If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us’ (1 John 1:8). It speaks of the fact that until the resurrection we must be at war with sinful desires (Galatians 5:16-17). Sin is not an enemy ‘out there’. It’s an enemy within that lives and feeds off our fallen human desires and weaknesses (James 1:13-15). That is why sinless perfectionism is not only untrue but also dangerous. People don’t tend to win battles that they don’t even realise they are supposed to be fighting.

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https://au.thegospelcoalition.org/article/godly-heresy-sinless-perfectionism/

Sadly, I have run across more than a few people over the last 10 years on various Christian forum sites who actually believe they live a sinless life 24/7 (exactly as Jesus lived) and they are quick to judge and condemn others who admit they do not measure up to that standard. One such person who was banned from Christian Chat a little while back is now terrorizing the Christianity Board with this heretical doctrine. People who promote 'sinless perfection' are suffering from a terminal case of self righteousness. (1 John 1:8-10)

When it causes a Christian to live his entire life in a state of frustration because he cannot manifest absolute perfection like Jesus did.
That is sad.

All that Jesus requires is that we do our best and let His Atonement take care of the rest.
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...or self-deprecation.

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Seems to speak to the idea of progressive sanctification. There is an example of that which comes to mind:

1 Corinthians 3:1-3
1Brothers, I could not address you as spiritual, but as worldly—as infants in Christ. 2I gave you milk, not solid food, for you were not yet ready for solid food. In fact, you are still not ready, 3for you are still worldly. For since there is jealousy and dissension among you, are you not worldly? Are you not walking in the way of man?

What I am seeing here are there people who are identified as being in Christ, but are still worldly, they have jealousy, dissensions, and are waking in the ways of man.

Paul calls them infants, or babes, in Christ. In a sense they are not entirely sanctified yet, but as they mature they should progressively sanctify, incrementally, degree by degree, as they become transformed into His image.

2 Corinthians 3:18
18And we, who with unveiled faces all reflect the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into His image with intensifying glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit.

Indeed.
It is a progression and a journey. We call it growth.
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Depends on who you ask. If someone is teaching this make sure you know what they mean.

When does it become false doctrine? When they say you are made perfect and sinless by a second work of grace.

1 Thessalonians 5:23
Kings James Version

And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul andbody be

preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ

Sanctification is the divine process that the Holy Spirit works on a born again child in Christ to conform him into the very image and likeness of Christ. Sanctification begins the moment of our second birth takes place, and ends when we pass on from this life to eternity.

The love of God must be rooted and grounded in out lives for us to grow in the knowledge of God the Father and the Son (Rom. 12:1_2; John 17:3). Righteousnesses and truth dressed with humility and a love for the Lord, are the necessary ingredients for a child of God to grow in the true knowledge of God.

what do the terms mean ? Entire is complete or total sanctification is the setting apart of someone for Gods ordained will

in other words completely dedicated to Gods Will.

the Bible doesn’t teach different levels of sanctification just either one is sanctified or they aren’t if they are it’s complete is they aren’t completely sanctified they aren’t sanctified

it’s just one degree

“I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word. For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me. I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.”
‭‭John‬ ‭17:6, 8, 14, 17‬ ‭

what sanctifies a person is to hear and believe the gospel , the word of God they heard it from Jesus and it became tbier sanctifocation to accept and believe d then as he’s praying there he mentions us who would hear thier words witnessing Jesus and his words

“Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; that they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.”
‭‭John‬ ‭17:20-21‬ ‭KJV‬‬

sanctification is included in salvation when we do this

“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:15-16‬ ‭

because hearing and believing his word , the gospel is our sanctification . Now one will say “ no no we’re sanctified but the boood the blood “


But where did we hear this from about the blood ? It’s written in e word as a testimony and witness of Christ we have to accept the information on the word to ever be sanctified the word teaches us about the blood d about hearing believing and beginning to operate in Gods cleansing and sanctifying word

to be called of God we have to hear his voice and it’s echoing through creation in the gospel

Bekng sanctified is a result of salvstion it’s either one is sanctified or they aren’t there is no differing degree the nature of the term requires a total commitment to Gods Will if anyone is there they are sanctified and set apart from the world for the Will of God regarding his eternal
Kingdom


Hearing the gospel sanctifies , hearing the gospel plants faith

“How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things! So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭10:14-15, 17‬ ‭

this is why Jesus sent our chosen messengers so everyone could hear the gospel and why they wrote it down so everyone could have the Bible available to hear and believe the gospel because that’s salvstion , sanctifocation , redemption , righteousness , faith and truth and eternal life

We have perfect sanctification of the Spirit when we are born again and then continued sanctification In our bodies/mind when we are trying to renew our minds to match the new creation we have become.
Romans 12:1-2
King James Version

1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.

2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

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What is entire santification?

I think there are actually 4 Biblical types of Sanctification

Preparatory Sanctification -----2 Thessalonians 2:13

You Are Chosen for Salvation
13 Brothers and sisters, you are people the Lord loves. And we always thank God for you. That’s what we should do, because God chose you to be some of the first people[a] to be saved. You are saved by the Spirit making you holy and by your faith in the truth.


Positional Sanctification -----1 Corinthians 1:2 A B C E-----our position changes from sinner to saint

2 To the church (assembly) of God which is in Corinth, to those consecrated and purified and made holy in Christ Jesus, [who are] selected and called to be saints (God’s people), together with all those who in any place call upon and give honor to the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, both their Lord and ours:


Progressive Sanctification ------2 Corinthians 7:1 ERV ---we need to start maturing in our Sanctification --we need to start the maturing process of being more Christ Like in out Character --going from the milk stage to the meat stage ----Carnal to Spiritual

7 Dear friends, we have these promises from God. So we should make ourselves pure—free from anything that makes our body or our soul unclean. Our respect for God should make us try to be completely holy in the way we live.


Prospective Sanctification -----only God can complete fully our Sanctification ------and that will happen when He comes -----

Romans 8:29 AMP B
29 For those whom He foreknew [and loved and chose beforehand], He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son [and ultimately share in His complete sanctification], so that He would be the firstborn [the most beloved and honored] among many believers


1 Thessalonians 5:23-24 Exp B ----
23 Now may God himself, the God of peace, ·make you holy in every way [sanctify you completely/through and through]. May your whole self—spirit, soul, and body—be kept ·faultless [blameless] when our Lord Jesus Christ comes. 24 The One who calls you is ·trustworthy [faithful], and he will ·do this [make this happen].

thanks all

“we are trying to renew our minds to match the new creation we have become.”

amen hearing this renews the mind

“It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭6:63‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Jesus word of we accept and believe him renews our knowledge of God and ourselves and even e world around us it’s not really something we’re doing but is a fruit and gift when we come to Christ and hear his gospel it renews our knowledge

“and have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him:”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭3:10‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Christ came to renew our understanding of the things that matter for eternal life to change our minds from earth to the things he spoke forth me said are there where we can’t see it but we heard Jesus and believe him more than the world we see , we’re walking by that faith

Just doing this changes our mind and heart our thoughts and conscience hat guides us through life

“For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭5:22, 24‬ ‭

if we are willing to accept the lords word and believe what he himself said , that’s how faith comes into our mind what happens is we start thinking along the ones of the gospel and stop thinking along the lines of the world

it doesn’t win a lot of friends because people will definately pull away when they see you don’t want to join in the thkngs you used to , but that’s the point the word can change us from a sinner at heart and in mknd which is why we commit sin at all because of this problem inside us

“For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness: all these evil things come from within, and defile the man.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭7:21-23‬ ‭KJV‬‬

the issue is the corrupt heart and mknd of man ot always has been e issue since the fall

“And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭6:5-6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

see how thier wockedness is within their mind and heart ? and so because of that they are acting out and filling up the word with evil coming out of mans heart and mind ? Rather than Gods Will ?

“The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?”
‭‭Jeremiah‬ ‭17:9‬ ‭

That’s why the fruit of the knowledge was forbidden the good and evil knowledge conflicts in us and it became a struggle for us to do good because the knowledge of evil was always there tempting us our minds we’re corrupted and this corrupted our hearts they way we perceive God was corrupted so we became afraid to hear his word

after corruption

“And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou? And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself. And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭3:9-11‬ ‭KJV‬‬

It lasted

“Now therefore why should we die? for this great fire will consume us: if we hear the voice of the LORD our God any more, then we shall die.”
‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭5:25‬ ‭KJV‬‬


the message that brings us back to life is this concerning Gods word “not that we’ll surely die if we hear his word “ but the opposite we’ll live if we hear and believe his word

“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭5:24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

that’s the difference in the old and new testaments each testament creates perception of God d what he’s saying they saw “ if we hear his word anymore we’re going to certainly die “

Jesus came to change our mind to “ of I will hear and accept his word and trust him I will have life everlasting and will not be condemned “


No one who is afraid to hear what Jesus is saying can be saved , anyone homie willing to accept who he said he is and what his word teaches , will be saved because that’s what changes us from thy owe bound to obey sin , to those pursuing righteousness and truth following after our shepherd and lord Jesus and walking along the paths he set before us in the everlasting gospel

if we can let the gospel fill up our minds and hearts it teaches us Gods judgement and discernment meant for us

“For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭4:12‬ ‭

that’s what fixes that corrupt heart through the wrong knowledge adam partook of , by speaking Tony’s the rig he knowledge of Christ that saves us and redeems us through our mknd and heart ( where we here and accept the word ) and tv t is what leads to repentance and righteousness in truth when our heart isn’t wicked like Jesus is saying when we take captive our thoughts tonthe obedience of Christ which is what pulls down the strongholds in us

“For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh: (for the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ; and having in a readiness to revenge all disobedience, when your obedience is fulfilled.”
‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭10:3-6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

what I’m saying is God is working in our mknd and heart to change the issues our only part is to dwell within his word and keep it alive in us the rest is what he does for us changing us through and through from what once was a sinner who sinned without care and guilt to someone who’s focus and goal is the pursuit of Jesus Christ and his living word

And self-delusion. While Christians should strive for righteousness and holiness, none can claim that they have "arrived". We are commanded to mortify or crucify the "flesh" and to "walk in the Spirit". At the same time we are told that if we say we have no sin we deceive ourselves, and the truth in not in us. At the same time we make God a liar. Therefore we are to examine ourselves daily.