Hey Everyone,
I wrote this post as a reply to a recent thread:
As a lifelong member of the Christian community (which I'm not mentioning just as background information, certainly not any kind of clout,) I have seen the topic of "It is not good for the man to be alone," discussed many, many times. Even though I am a woman, when I was younger, I bought into interpretations of this passage that God had a wonderful, heavenly, almost magical person for each of us and everything would be harps and clouds with that person if we just listened and obeyed.
I see this especially on Christian dating sites -- so many people believing that God's best for them must absolutely mean everything they want, even if they don't qualify for those things themselves (i.e, wanting to marry a fitness model when one is 60 lbs. overweight, wanting to marry someone wealthy when that person hasn't learned to to manage their own personal finances, etc.)
As I've gotten older (and am still single,) I've often thought about why, when people talk about the passages that promote marriage in the Bible, there is no mention of other cases revolving around marriage that aren't so pretty.
These days I am part of the camp in that believes God was speaking to Adam specifically ("It is not good for the man to be alone") in a very specific situation -- I do not believe He was speaking to absolutely all of humankind (after all, the New Testament says some were born eunichs because God made them that way.)
Now I could very well be wrong -- it's one of the things I look forward to God revealing to us in heaven. But when we talk about marriage being God's supposed human-wide decree, why doesn't anyone include:
1. Jeremiah, who was plainly instructed NOT to marry -- there's just no arguing about it. (Jeremiah 16:2)
2. God told Hosea to marry a prostitute who would keep leaving him for other men, and he had no choice in the matter. (Hosea 1:2-4)
3. God told Ezekiel in advance that He was going to take away "the delight of your eyes," and yet Ezekiel was not allowed to weep or mourn or show any outward signs of his great sorrow. (Ezekiel 24:15-27)
And these were about as choice of men of God as you can get -- neither wayward nor unbelieving -- yet this is what God decided for them. Why does every Christian single think they will somehow be the exception and be called to a blissful, joyful marriage instead?
Somehow the Christian single community will zero in on the just the point of God deciding that Adam being alone was not good and he needed a helper. Why are these examples of other outcomes never mentioned as a balance? Why is there an assumption that something meant for Adam must also be meant for everyone else, but these examples are treated as isolated cases to be brushed under the rug? I understand why no one would want to believe these situations could apply to them. But that doesn't seem to be how real life in a sinful world works.
As in the case of Jeremiah, I believe some may be told they cannot marry, for whatever reason God has. I also believe that like Hosea, God may tell some to marry difficult people or into difficult situationss just because it's His will and He has a modern-day purpose in it. In other cases, even if someone does fight "the delight of their eyes," that does not mean that God will allow them a lifetime together, because He may decide to cut it short, for whatever reason He sees fit. As it is, God rarely takes both people in a marriage at the same time, and anyone who marries must also know that there is a 50/50 chance they will once again wind up single.
I have known 3 cases in which a Christian person believed they were called by God to marry the other person, even though there were, as Lynx likes to say, "More red flags than at a Chinese parade." Whether it was truly of God, I don't know. Two marriages consisted of both Christians; one was between a Christian and non-Christian (and I know it would be debated as to whether God would direct this as He did with Hosea, but only God knows.)
All three people who believed they were called into these marriages did everything they could to hold it together; two ended in divorce due to the person they felt called to marry committing adultery and violent acts against the person who thought they were called; one held on, but only after the person who felt they had been called into the marriage had dealt with 25 years of the other person's violent alcoholic rages which included bashing mirrors, then mutilating himself with the shards. Even after this turning point, it took several more years of rehab and therapy for their marriage to change.
As I said, I don't know if these people truly heard from God, and I don't know any more than what I'm describing here, so please don't get caught up in the examples. I don't have any other information to share about them, so we can only take them at face value.
But I personally believe that God still calls people to difficult marital situations, and maybe that's why so many of us aren't married.
How would you react if God told you:
1. That you were to never marry (like Jeremiah.)
2. That you were to marry someone, and they would cheat on you -- even having children by a different person -- but God wanted you to stay with them anyway.
3. That you were marry, but God would eventually call your spouse home first, and you would be left behind on your own for many years.
4. That your marriage would be difficult (alcoholism, addiction, desertion, cancer, the death of a child, Alzheimer's or the hundred thousand other issues that can come up in a marriage,) but God still wanted you to marry and carry on anyways.
What do you think you would do? And for the people who HAVE endured these things in their marriages, whether past or present -- would you have still married if you knew in advance these things would happen?
I know if it were me, without a doubt, I would plead with God to leave me as I am -- single -- but if God calls us, what other choice do we have?
I'm curious to know how singles feel about the other possibility that no one ever seems to talk about -- that through marriage, God might be calling us to situations we are not yet equipped to handle.
And will we ever be?
What do you think?
I wrote this post as a reply to a recent thread:
As a lifelong member of the Christian community (which I'm not mentioning just as background information, certainly not any kind of clout,) I have seen the topic of "It is not good for the man to be alone," discussed many, many times. Even though I am a woman, when I was younger, I bought into interpretations of this passage that God had a wonderful, heavenly, almost magical person for each of us and everything would be harps and clouds with that person if we just listened and obeyed.
I see this especially on Christian dating sites -- so many people believing that God's best for them must absolutely mean everything they want, even if they don't qualify for those things themselves (i.e, wanting to marry a fitness model when one is 60 lbs. overweight, wanting to marry someone wealthy when that person hasn't learned to to manage their own personal finances, etc.)
As I've gotten older (and am still single,) I've often thought about why, when people talk about the passages that promote marriage in the Bible, there is no mention of other cases revolving around marriage that aren't so pretty.
These days I am part of the camp in that believes God was speaking to Adam specifically ("It is not good for the man to be alone") in a very specific situation -- I do not believe He was speaking to absolutely all of humankind (after all, the New Testament says some were born eunichs because God made them that way.)
Now I could very well be wrong -- it's one of the things I look forward to God revealing to us in heaven. But when we talk about marriage being God's supposed human-wide decree, why doesn't anyone include:
1. Jeremiah, who was plainly instructed NOT to marry -- there's just no arguing about it. (Jeremiah 16:2)
2. God told Hosea to marry a prostitute who would keep leaving him for other men, and he had no choice in the matter. (Hosea 1:2-4)
3. God told Ezekiel in advance that He was going to take away "the delight of your eyes," and yet Ezekiel was not allowed to weep or mourn or show any outward signs of his great sorrow. (Ezekiel 24:15-27)
And these were about as choice of men of God as you can get -- neither wayward nor unbelieving -- yet this is what God decided for them. Why does every Christian single think they will somehow be the exception and be called to a blissful, joyful marriage instead?
Somehow the Christian single community will zero in on the just the point of God deciding that Adam being alone was not good and he needed a helper. Why are these examples of other outcomes never mentioned as a balance? Why is there an assumption that something meant for Adam must also be meant for everyone else, but these examples are treated as isolated cases to be brushed under the rug? I understand why no one would want to believe these situations could apply to them. But that doesn't seem to be how real life in a sinful world works.
As in the case of Jeremiah, I believe some may be told they cannot marry, for whatever reason God has. I also believe that like Hosea, God may tell some to marry difficult people or into difficult situationss just because it's His will and He has a modern-day purpose in it. In other cases, even if someone does fight "the delight of their eyes," that does not mean that God will allow them a lifetime together, because He may decide to cut it short, for whatever reason He sees fit. As it is, God rarely takes both people in a marriage at the same time, and anyone who marries must also know that there is a 50/50 chance they will once again wind up single.
I have known 3 cases in which a Christian person believed they were called by God to marry the other person, even though there were, as Lynx likes to say, "More red flags than at a Chinese parade." Whether it was truly of God, I don't know. Two marriages consisted of both Christians; one was between a Christian and non-Christian (and I know it would be debated as to whether God would direct this as He did with Hosea, but only God knows.)
All three people who believed they were called into these marriages did everything they could to hold it together; two ended in divorce due to the person they felt called to marry committing adultery and violent acts against the person who thought they were called; one held on, but only after the person who felt they had been called into the marriage had dealt with 25 years of the other person's violent alcoholic rages which included bashing mirrors, then mutilating himself with the shards. Even after this turning point, it took several more years of rehab and therapy for their marriage to change.
As I said, I don't know if these people truly heard from God, and I don't know any more than what I'm describing here, so please don't get caught up in the examples. I don't have any other information to share about them, so we can only take them at face value.
But I personally believe that God still calls people to difficult marital situations, and maybe that's why so many of us aren't married.
How would you react if God told you:
1. That you were to never marry (like Jeremiah.)
2. That you were to marry someone, and they would cheat on you -- even having children by a different person -- but God wanted you to stay with them anyway.
3. That you were marry, but God would eventually call your spouse home first, and you would be left behind on your own for many years.
4. That your marriage would be difficult (alcoholism, addiction, desertion, cancer, the death of a child, Alzheimer's or the hundred thousand other issues that can come up in a marriage,) but God still wanted you to marry and carry on anyways.
What do you think you would do? And for the people who HAVE endured these things in their marriages, whether past or present -- would you have still married if you knew in advance these things would happen?
I know if it were me, without a doubt, I would plead with God to leave me as I am -- single -- but if God calls us, what other choice do we have?
I'm curious to know how singles feel about the other possibility that no one ever seems to talk about -- that through marriage, God might be calling us to situations we are not yet equipped to handle.
And will we ever be?
What do you think?
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