Is Baptism necessary for Salvation?

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Magenta

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Dirtman said:
Those replies are to the statement or statements directly prior. To see who I am replying to, look one post prior. Unless I do use the quotes because I am replying to a post back more than one post prior. But hey if it helps ya. Not problem.
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Thanks. It can happen that you think your post will show up immediately following the one you are addressing, when someone else posts in the meantime. It is not just me it would help, either, as the site has been specifically set up to function that way for everybody :)
 
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Magenta said:
Thanks. It can happen that you think your post will show up immediately following the one you are addressing, when someone else posts in the meantime. It is not just me it would help, either, as the site has been specifically set up to function that way for everybody :)
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I agreed already see what I said. "If it helps ya" and "no problem". Thats pretty friendly I think. It dont have to be about site functionality and some other pragmatic causes. Can it just be because you asked me to and I'm willing to do it just because you asked.
 
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Dirtman said:
I agreed already see what I said. "If it helps ya" and "no problem". Thats pretty friendly I think. It dont have to be about site functionality and some other pragmatic causes. Can it just be because you asked me to and I'm willing to do it just because you asked.
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Thanks again :D
 
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Magenta said:
Thanks again :D
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See I want to think about as talking to another person not responding to a machine. I'm sure you are a person replying on your phone or computer somewhere and that these interactions actually are real because of that fact.
So I'm talking to a person and that person is you. Not your device.
 
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BillG said:
http://www.thywordistruth.com/questions/Question-175.html#.YthSey_TVOl
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So you disobey jesus because Peter and Paul used a colloquialism? Because Jesus is one with the father and So also is one with the Holy Spirit. And you want to ignore the entire church history invluding thousands upon countless thousands of letters from 1890 back to Jesus.
And ya want to butcher the doctrine of the Trinity in one fell swoop?
Kind of strange behavior for a christian.
Jesus gave a directive its not complicated.
 
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Dirtman said:
So you disobey jesus because Peter and Paul used a colloquialism? Because Jesus is one with the father and So also is one with the Holy Spirit. And you want to ignore the entire church history invluding thousands upon countless thousands of letters from 1890 back to Jesus.
And ya want to butcher the doctrine of the Trinity in one fell swoop?
Kind of strange behavior for a christian.
Jesus gave a directive its not complicated.
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Given that you know nothing about me I suggest you ask and not accuse.
 
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Dirtman said:
So you disobey jesus because Peter and Paul used a colloquialism? Because Jesus is one with the father and So also is one with the Holy Spirit. And you want to ignore the entire church history invluding thousands upon countless thousands of letters from 1890 back to Jesus.
And ya want to butcher the doctrine of the Trinity in one fell swoop?
Kind of strange behavior for a christian.
Jesus gave a directive its not complicated.
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Read the whole post link before you go off on one
 
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Dirtman said:
I put a question mark on the end there. That makes it a question.
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You said

So you disobey jesus because Peter and Paul used a colloquialism?

Now tell me which part of the question “So you disobey Jesus” would lead me to think you were referring to me as a person who disobeys Jesus
 
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BillG said:
You said

So you disobey jesus because Peter and Paul used a colloquialism?

Now tell me which part of the question “So you disobey Jesus” would lead me to think you were referring to me as a person who disobeys Jesus
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I guess I should have also said some folks rather than "you". "You" is personal. Even If it is used colloquially often. And the intended use here.
 
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Dirtman said:
So you disobey jesus because Peter and Paul used a colloquialism?
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Jesus Himself baptized nobody (in water). He baptizes with the Holy Spirit (and fire).

Jesus' command was to baptize. How many people have you baptized?

If anyone has not water baptized anybody else, have they been disobedient?
 
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Magenta said:
Jesus Himself baptized nobody (in water). He baptizes with the Holy Spirit (and fire).

Jesus' command was to baptize. How many people have you baptized?

If anyone has not water baptized anybody else, have they been disobedient?
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He said it to those to whom he was handing over the ministry . its a directive to those in the ministry
 
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Magenta said:
Jesus Himself baptized nobody (in water). He baptizes with the Holy Spirit (and fire).

Jesus' command was to baptize. How many people have you baptized?

If anyone has not water baptized anybody else, have they been disobedient?
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I think Bill amd I have worked out our issue thank you.
 
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