Stopping Global Abortions

No, the Hebrew word is thigh, not womb, the verb is swell not miscarry. It is not saying anything that can be denoted as an abortion.

Even if we accept the words are womb and the baby does miscarry under this ritual, it is absolute nonsense argument that @true_believer is making that abortion was "permitted" in certain circumstances.

The goal was not have the baby miscarry but to test the veracity of the woman because there were no witnesses.

This classic case of reading into scripture what is not there.

So if the woman took the mixture and her child dies, that's a terminated pregnancy. Plain and simple.

So if the woman took the mixture and her child dies, that's a terminated pregnancy. Plain and simple.

whisperer:

Hello again, CS1! I've not yet set aside the old laptop. What more is there to say?


CS1 (Post #50):

Abortion is a racist program created by the PPH in 1922 by founder Margaret Sanger . . . "


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_Parenthood :

1940s – 1960s

. . . Both Planned Parenthood and Margaret Sanger are strongly associated with the abortion issue today. [27] [28]

For much of the organization's history, however, and throughout Sanger's life, abortion was illegal in the U.S., and discussions of the issue were often censored. [29]

During this period, Sanger – like other American advocates of birth control – publicly condemned abortion, arguing that it would not be needed if every woman had access to birth control. [29]

CS1:

" . . . Margaret Sanger . . . with the support of the KKK created Planned parentHood to reduce the population of blacks in NY. 61millon abortions were done and 30% of them were performed on a class of people who make up only 16% of the nation's population."


whisperer:

And on whom were 70% of the abortions performed--with the support and blessing of the KKK?

CS1:

"The founder would be so happy today that PPH has kept its racist origin going. And has done its job in deceiving young women."


whisperer:

Deceiving young women is the job of PPFA? Not "Reproductive health"?

CS1:

The blood of the 61 million cries out to the Living God Just as Abel's blood did.

That should strike great fear in those who support the murder of innocent blood which God hates.

TWO QUESTIONS For Pro-life Christian Conservatives (Post #38):

If all of the women could not be allowed to live, then why did Moses not massacre only virgins, thereby ensuring the survival of any embryonic or fetal life that females who had slept with someone may have been carrying?


All the best to you, CS1!

TWO QUESTIONS For Pro-life Christian Conservatives (Post #38):

If Moses was a fervent believer in the sanctity of human life and a staunch antiabortionist firmly committed to promoting the rights of the unborn and protecting their persons, then why did he order the slaughter of every woman who had slept with a man while sparing the lives of virgins?

If all of the women could not be allowed to live, then why did Moses not massacre only virgins, thereby ensuring the survival of any embryonic or fetal life that females who had slept with someone may have been carrying?

So if the woman took the mixture and her child dies, that's a terminated pregnancy. Plain and simple.

yes if the Bible said she was pregnant (it doesn't) and if it said that the mixture will cause her to miscarriage (it doesn't). You have a make believe Bible.

No, that is not what happened in that situation. That verse has been misused by abortion supporters and it's wrong.

You keep making that declaration about abortion supporters.
But you're not explaining why this situation isn't an an abortion or unlawful.

Abortion shouldn't be something that one uses for because a pregnancy is inconvenient due to irresponsible behavior or an unplanned pregnancy between a couple.

But in situations of rape, incest or a pregnancy that endangers the life of the mother it should be permitted without hesitation.

ZNP already proved that it was wrong. It doesn't say abortion.




Why not? If it's not a baby, just get rid of it. Do whatever you like. But if it is a baby...




Rape/incest/ medical are 4% of abortions. C. Everett Koop said "In thirty-five years of medicine I have never seen one case where abortion was necessary to save a mother's life." So that takes us down to 2%. In cases of rape and incest, it's not the babies fault. The baby can be given up for adoption. Why kill a child because of someone else's sin. Either way you have a 2% window. You think abortionists would agree with that?

Do you notice how "pro-abortionists" always use the same old arguments.

Medical science has proven that the child has it's own DNA and is an autonomous human being, rape does not change that fact.

Seems like someone lost one argument trying to use scripture and then went to the secular ... "but, but what about when..."

You keep making that declaration about abortion supporters.
But you're not explaining why this situation isn't an an abortion or unlawful.
Abortion shouldn't be something that one uses for because a pregnancy is inconvenient due to irresponsible behavior or an unplanned pregnancy between a couple.
But in situations of rape, incest or a pregnancy that endangers the life of the mother it should be permitted without hesitation.

Scripture is addressing suspected "adultery" and not even connected to rape or incest.

And it has been addressed fully, you just cannot accept that your attempt to use scripture which is "eisigesis" and essentially malign God who makes very clear in other scripture that He is the author of all life at conception,

"Children are a heritage from the LORD, offspring a reward from him."
Psalm 127 3-5

Do not make God the author of evil and abortion is evil.

So if the woman took the mixture and her child dies, that's a terminated pregnancy. Plain and simple.

ZNP already proved that it was wrong. It doesn't say abortion.

Scripture is addressing suspected "adultery" and not even connected to rape or incest.

And it has been addressed fully, you just cannot accept that your attempt to use scripture which is "eisigesis" and essentially malign God who makes very clear in other scripture that He is the author of all life at conception,

"Children are a heritage from the LORD, offspring a reward from him."
Psalm 127 3-5

Do not make God the author of evil and abortion is evil.

You have not addressed it. You've been doing the Ravi Zacharias "word salad" technique.

ZNP already proved that it was wrong. It doesn't say abortion.




Why not? If it's not a baby, just get rid of it. Do whatever you like. But if it is a baby...




Rape/incest/ medical are 4% of abortions. C. Everett Koop said "In thirty-five years of medicine I have never seen one case where abortion was necessary to save a mother's life." So that takes us down to 2%. In cases of rape and incest, it's not the babies fault. The baby can be given up for adoption. Why kill a child because of someone else's sin. Either way you have a 2% window. You think abortionists would agree with that?