No one recorded in Scripture received the Holy Spirit (sealed by Him), and the Holy Spirit left them.
After conversion, we can grieve the Holy Spirit, but He will not leave us. In fact, the Bible says we are SEALED with the Holy Spirit.
The same word is used in Revelation by John, as he wept convulsively, because NO ONE could break the seals of the scroll. ONLY Jesus can break the seal.
A whole host of bad things can happen to the persistently disobedient child of God, that grieves the Holy Spirit. But one of them, is NOT the removal of the Holy Spirit.
The Holy Spirit CAME UPON Old Testament people, but not until Jesus' death and resurrection were people able to become born again and sealed with the Holy Spirit, as a GUARANTEE of eternity with Christ.
Samson is a good example of the H.S. coming upon, leaving, and then coming back at the end of his life, when his prayer was answered to give him super strength one last time.[/QUOTE
Luke 8
9And his disciples asked him, saying, What might this parable be?
10And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables; that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand.
11Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God.
12Those by the way side are they that hear; then cometh the devil, and taketh away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be saved.
13They on the rock
are they, which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away.
14And that which fell among thorns are they, which, when they have heard, go forth, and are choked with cares and riches and pleasures of
this life, and bring no fruit to perfection.
15But that on the good ground are they, which in an honest and good heart, having heard the word, keep
it, and bring forth fruit with patience.
Jesus clearly says that those along the side of the road did not get saved.
13. They on the rocks hear the word, receive the word with joy: But unfortunately they do not have a teacher to feed and nourish them so they do not grow good roots and fall away. Were they saved? I thank so can you show me where hearing and receiving the word does not = salvation
14. Here you have the same problem as those in the rocks they get saved but get drawn back into the world.
What about Matthew 7 Did we not do all these wonderful things in your name and Jesus tells them depart from Me for I knew you not.
This doctrine of once saved always saved
Justified by Faith
21But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
22Even the righteousness of God
which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
23For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
24Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
25Whom God hath set forth
to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
26To declare,
I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
What does verse 25 say "FOR THE REMISSIONS OF SINS THAT ARE PAST. If we do sin and we are human so we will
Justified by Faith
21But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
22Even the righteousness of God
which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
23For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
24Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
25Whom God hath set forth
to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
26To declare,
I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
What does verse 25 say "FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS PAST" Does this mean we will never sin again? NO we are human we live in flesh bodies Jesus was the only one to do that; So hat happens when we sin? We must repent and ask God for forgiveness, pick ourselves up knock the dust off the seat of our paints and get back to work. What happens if we don't repent those sins remain in the book, and you can lose your salvation.
Please let me know where in the bible you find this. God talked about backsliding Iseral throughout the Old Testament.
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