Devoting my life to Christ and question on saints

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InNeedOfSupport

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In recent years as I have turned back towards God I'm trying to listen and pay attention to God's words which I sometimes feel he speaks to me. But there are a myriad of distractions nowadays and it's difficult to stay on path without a Church or a community

I thought about buying a prayer rope, a cross necklace, and finding a patron saint to pray to and inspire myself by just to even REMEMBER that I now believe because I still feel like/ act like an atheist for the most part.

Which begs the question, why do patron saints exist? Why would we pray to them instead of Christ or God even? Or is it that you pray to them in addition to Christ/God? Or did I kind of answer myself by saying that they could inspire me? Is there any other reason you would want a patron saint?

Also is praying to Christ equivalent to praying to God? I have so many questions I wish I had a Priestly Father like Father Spyridon that can help me in my spiritual journey.

Lol shout out to Father Spyridon, love hearing him speak on theology!
 
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Magenta

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You are asking questions relative to the Catholic faith. Nowhere in the Bible is anyone instructed to pray to saints in heaven, or have a patron saint of anything. The Bible nowhere instructs believers in Christ to pray to anyone other than God. The Bible nowhere mentions anyone asking for someone in heaven to pray for them. The saints are any who believe in the shed righteous blood of Jesus Christ for the remission of their sins, not a select few dead folks a magisterium has granted special status to.

Why do you not have a church family/home?
 
Dino246

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Also is praying to Christ equivalent to praying to God?
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Yes. Christ IS God. :)

Read the first chapter of the Gospel according to John for more information... and when you're done reading the first chapter, read the rest. ;)
 
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Paul told people to follow his example, Paul is a Saint.

1 Corinthians 11:1
Follow my example, as I follow the example of Christ.

There is no problem following good examples of those who live a godly life.
 
epicnerpmada

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InNeedOfSupport said:
In recent years as I have turned back towards God I'm trying to listen and pay attention to God's words which I sometimes feel he speaks to me. But there are a myriad of distractions nowadays and it's difficult to stay on path without a Church or a community

I thought about buying a prayer rope, a cross necklace, and finding a patron saint to pray to and inspire myself by just to even REMEMBER that I now believe because I still feel like/ act like an atheist for the most part.

Which begs the question, why do patron saints exist? Why would we pray to them instead of Christ or God even? Or is it that you pray to them in addition to Christ/God? Or did I kind of answer myself by saying that they could inspire me? Is there any other reason you would want a patron saint?

Also is praying to Christ equivalent to praying to God? I have so many questions I wish I had a Priestly Father like Father Spyridon that can help me in my spiritual journey.

Lol shout out to Father Spyridon, love hearing him speak on theology!
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I was raised in the Catholic church, I went to mass on and off, but consistently non the less for 18 years. I've turned my back on it when I looked into it and found that it was heavily corrupted by polytheistic roman paganism. Praying to anyone but the Lord your God is Idol worship, Ecc 9:5 says that "the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing." All the saints and the mother of Jesus couldn't answer or intercede for a single prayer, for they know nothing. But God knows everything as does Christ, who was and is in the father from everlasting to everlasting. Pray to God alone, ask him for his wisdom to guide you in your future prayers.
 
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Jesus is fully God and fully Man.

In Romans 8, we are told that both Jesus and the Holy Spirit intercedes, prays. So, ask both to join you in prayer. Who better to know the mind of God, then God himself?
 
Magenta

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epicnerpmada said:
I was raised in the Catholic church, I went to mass on and off, but consistently non the less for 18 years. I've turned my back on it when I looked into it and found that it was heavily corrupted by polytheistic roman paganism. Praying to anyone but the Lord your God is Idol worship, Ecc 9:5 says that "the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing." All the saints and the mother of Jesus couldn't answer or intercede for a single prayer, for they know nothing. But God knows everything as does Christ, who was and is in the father from everlasting to everlasting. Pray to God alone, ask him for his wisdom to guide you in your future prayers.
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How handy for RCCers to say Mary never died! Despite zero evidence in Scripture, they believe she was bodily assumed to heaven. In fact, of all the things Roman Catholics believe and are taught to believe, two that the papistry have writ to be inexorably binding upon their flock concern Mary: her assumption, and her immaculate conception. And how cleverly these two work in tandem! Mary, being sin free according to ex cathedra dogma, should not suffer the first death, and therefore sits with God interceding along with Jesus! Listening to and answering prayers. Some Catholics will go so far to say that you must go through Mary to get to Jesus. Others will go so far to deny their idolization of her to claim that Catholics do not pray to Mary. The elevation of Mary practiced by many Catholics is quite disturbing to a Solas person.
 
JesusFreak1992

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I agree with Magenta. It’s not right to pray to anyone or anything other than Jesus and God. It’s idolization and idol worship. Catholics have their own Bible and it’s not the Holy Bible.
 
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