In your opinion what is the State of the Union in the US?

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Whoa! Are you going to just not count the ballots because they were illegal?

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...sident-trump-decisive-victory-az-ga-mi-pa-wi/

A STOLEN ELECTION: State Totals Minus Illegal Ballot Trafficking Numbers Give President Trump Decisive Victories in AZ, GA, MI, PA, and WI

I get it, you have seen that many of the drop box ballots were illegal and you have seen that the overwhelming majority of those votes were for Biden so if you simply don't count them it flips the result to Trump. But the democrats have been claiming that you need to count all votes, not just the legal ones. If you don't count these illegal ones you are being biased against criminals and thieves.
And our US Supreme Court was more interested in hearing about lesbians complaining about a Christian baker, than even looking at Guiliani's evidence...
Now we have a brand new radical leftist appointee to the court...
This nation's Constitution is essentially worthless.
 

ZNP

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This nation's Constitution is essentially worthless.
The supplication of a righteous man availeth much

No, it's not. Based on the constitution we can bring our petition to the Lord. This country was consecrated to the Lord at its inception, the prayers of a righteous man availeth much. We are standing on solid ground when we appeal to the Lord to judge righteous judgment.

James 5:16 Confess therefore your sins one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The supplication of a righteous man availeth much in its working.
 
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The supplication of a righteous man availeth much

No, it's not. Based on the constitution we can bring our petition to the Lord. This country was consecrated to the Lord at its inception, the prayers of a righteous man availeth much. We are standing on solid ground when we appeal to the Lord to judge righteous judgment.

James 5:16 Confess therefore your sins one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The supplication of a righteous man availeth much in its working.
"Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done....."
 
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:cry::cry:
boo-who the stores don't have any fake powdered man made concoctions to force into my child.


People ever hear of God given BREAST MILK????

VERY FEW women on this earth actually have a need to use that junk (formulas)

If they did what God designed their bodies to do in the first place, whip out a boob and feed those babies, stay home to raise (and feed) those babies, then they wouldn't be in a place of panic over something stupid like this.

Ladies God gave you BOOBS so after you're done teasing and pleasing that guy, you can feed and please the baby that results from it.
 

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No better or worse than any other democratic state or nation. If we don't get rid of partisan politics, democracy will fail.
Partisan politics is the heart of a healthy democracy as long as all views are represented. The problem isn't partisanship but lack of civility. It might be helpful to remember we're not fighting against flesh and blood.
 
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Partisan politics is the heart of a healthy democracy as long as all views are represented. The problem isn't partisanship but lack of civility. It might be helpful to remember we're not fighting against flesh and blood.
I believe it would be more accurate to say, "Partisan politics is the heart of a healthy democracy as long as all parties agree to defend a Christian based Constitution and Godly nation."

I remember, as a child, the biggest complaint about politics was... "You can't hardly tell the difference between a Democrat or Republican..." The good ol' days...
 
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Partisan politics is the heart of a healthy democracy as long as all views are represented. The problem isn't partisanship but lack of civility. It might be helpful to remember we're not fighting against flesh and blood.
That's the tragedy of it Cameron. Members of the Party have to go along with the majority rule and that's often determined by their Party's philosophical bias, and which often seems to result in unbalanced decisions being made.

You couldn't successfully run a business if the directors formed cliques, and particularly if said cliques were adversarial by nature as well. Partisan and adversarial politics and governance to me, also flies in the face of Jesus' warning that a house divided up/divided against itself will fail!

Also we can't serve two masters, either. In partisan politics the emphasis is on staying in or getting into power, and morally sound decisions are only made providing they help the party retain or get the power it lusts for.

Partisan and adversarial politics is a self defeating practice in my opinion, it is divisive and therefore the bane of good governance.
 
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That's the tragedy of it Cameron. Members of the Party have to go along with the majority rule and that's often determined by their Party's philosophical bias, and which often seems to result in unbalanced decisions being made.

You couldn't successfully run a business if the directors formed cliques, and particularly if said cliques were adversarial by nature as well. Partisan and adversarial politics and governance to me, also flies in the face of Jesus' warning that a house divided up/divided against itself will fail!

Also we can't serve two masters, either. In partisan politics the emphasis is on staying in or getting into power, and morally sound decisions are only made providing they help the party retain or get the power it lusts for.

Partisan and adversarial politics is a self defeating practice in my opinion, it is divisive and therefore the bane of good governance.
It's hard for me to wrap my mind around what the Democrats are currently doing in the US today. There was a time in this country when, if you accused an elected public official of being a communist, it was truly scandalous. How far we've come in so short a time...

Nobody remembers that America was founded in war against tyranny. Even the politicians don't seem to understand the unique history of the US Constitution, and the fundamental Christian ideals this nation was founded upon.

Politics just for the sake of power and authority is always going to be divisive.

America has lost its compass. It seems we're rudderless and without sails......
 
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It's hard for me to wrap my mind around what the Democrats are currently doing in the US today. There was a time in this country when, if you accused an elected public official of being a communist, it was truly scandalous. How far we've come in so short a time...

Nobody remembers that America was founded in war against tyranny. Even the politicians don't seem to understand the unique history of the US Constitution, and the fundamental Christian ideals this nation was founded upon.

Politics just for the sake of power and authority is always going to be divisive.

America has lost its compass. It seems we're rudderless and without sails......
I agree.

At the risk of sounding overly pessimistic J, it's hard to see the world pull itself out of the pit it has dug and fallen into, without some serious incentive from our fearsome God. He might even call time, ladies and gentlemen.

Leaders seem to be recalibrating their compasses to suit their egos and the mood of their country's people. Even though we supposedly acknowledge God in the opening of our parliament, thoughts of Him and respect for His ways are quickly pushed out the back door, or so it seems.
 
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I agree.

At the risk of sounding overly pessimistic J, it's hard to see the world pull itself out of the pit it has dug and fallen into, without some serious incentive from our fearsome God. He might even call time, ladies and gentlemen.

Leaders seem to be recalibrating their compasses to suit their egos and the mood of their country's people. Even though we supposedly acknowledge God in the opening of our parliament, thoughts of Him and respect for His ways are quickly pushed out the back door, or so it seems.
Sign of the times my friend.... I'm Ready. BEAM ME UP JESUS! :geek:
 
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Sign of the times my friend.... I'm Ready. BEAM ME UP JESUS! :geek:
or, if you’re not planning to do that just at the moment Lord, can I get back onto the ark please?
 

Lanolin

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Just called it the DSA

the divided states of america

If thats really what it is
 
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Just called it the DSA

the divided states of america

If thats really what it is
That's the world L. But what about the divided states of Christianity? That really knots up my stomach and brings tears to my eyes 😳
 

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If you were an evil genius that truly hated the US and you were Biden, would you have done anything any differently this year?
Sure! However, being Biden, you'd have to constantly remind me of the definitions as relate to evil, and genius, before I could stumble and provide an unintelligable answer.
Listening a little to the radio (news) while on the road today, hearing there are four Repubs not running again and all four of those supported the impeachment of Trump.

One of them, not running for his NINETEENTH term! Egads! Nineteenth term! And no doubt leaving much richer than when he first entered the senate. It's like Lords and Ladies all over again and the rest of us shall not hunt on the king's lands.
As I see it having voted my last in the 2020 steal, I dont see those 4 Repub's not running again as a big deal.

November 3, 2020 and January 2021 showed me we the voting American don't actually put the candidates either in or out of office.

The state of our union? Corrupt, for sale to the highest bidder, and indifferent to the fact that is obvious to all who witness that travesty unfold daily.

And no one in that pit of demons, our government, will do a thing to save our union.

But! All in authority were placed over us by God.

What do we do now?
Pray he changes his mind?
 

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John 19:1-14 Mob Rule

1 Then Pilate therefore took Jesus, and scourged him. 2 And the soldiers platted a crown of thorns, and put it on his head, and arrayed him in a purple garment; 3 and they came unto him, and said, Hail, King of the Jews! and they struck him with their hands. 4 And Pilate went out again, and saith unto them, Behold, I bring him out to you, that ye may know that I find no crime in him.

Is this how they used to interrogate people? You scourge them, a horrific penalty, you slap them around a little, you mock them, ridicule them. This whole thing confuses me, is Pilate saying “hey you can see we have gone through the entire interrogation protocol and have not found anything”? A lot of people are shocked at the lawlessness we are seeing today, this tells me it can get a lot worse.

5 Jesus therefore came out, wearing the crown of thorns and the purple garment. And Pilate saith unto them, Behold, the man! 6 When therefore the chief priests and the officers saw him, they cried out, saying, Crucify him, crucify him! Pilate saith unto them, Take him yourselves, and crucify him: for I find no crime in him.

This is mob rule. The judge has ruled that he found no crime in Him and yet He will be sentenced to death in the next few minutes.

7 The Jews answered him, We have a law, and by that law he ought to die, because he made himself the Son of God.

So these are “law abiding” Jews demanding the crucifixion of an innocent man?

8 When Pilate therefore heard this saying, he was the more afraid; 9 and he entered into the Praetorium again, and saith unto Jesus, Whence art thou? But Jesus gave him no answer. 10 Pilate therefore saith unto him, Speakest thou not unto me? knowest thou not that I have power to release thee, and have power to crucify thee? 11 Jesus answered him, Thou wouldest have no power against me, except it were given thee from above: therefore he that delivered me unto thee hath greater sin.

Wow, Proverbs 28:1 The wicked flee when no man pursueth; But the righteous are bold as a lion. This statement by the Lord is bold as a lion. Jesus is Lord, He has heard of the unrighteousness, but now He has come down to see for Himself. This is like the CEO of some company pretending to be a lowly employee to learn what is actually going on in His company. Pilate is probably used to these people cowering before him and here is someone letting him know that God’s wrath will be poured out and Pilates cowardice before this mob is not as great a sin as that of the religious leaders violating the law and lying about it. Proverbs 28:2 For the transgression of a land many are the princes thereof; But by men of understanding and knowledge the state thereof shall be prolonged. When the land is ruled by this mob mentality there is transgression. It takes understanding of the law, of righteousness, and knowledge of the facts to keep the state from sailing onto the rocks and being destroyed.

12 Upon this Pilate sought to release him: but the Jews cried out, saying, If thou release this man, thou art not Caesar’s friend: every one that maketh himself a king speaketh against Caesar. 13 When Pilate therefore heard these words, he brought Jesus out, and sat down on the judgment-seat at a place called The Pavement, but in Hebrew, Gabbatha.

We see this all the time, we saw this in the last election. Think about it, what was the major reason that many people voted against Trump? I’m not talking about those who actually voted for Biden because they support abortion or some other agenda of his, I’m talking about those who voted “against Trump”. They wanted peace. They felt that Trump was responsible for stirring up all kinds of hatred and reactions. They just wanted it to stop. Proverbs 28:3 A needy man that oppresseth the poor Is like a sweeping rain which leaveth no food. People, just like Pilate, will justify all kinds of oppression because “they need peace”. But ask yourself, since Biden has been elected has there been any rain, any blessing?

14 Now it was the Preparation of the passover: it was about the sixth hour. And he saith unto the Jews, Behold, your King!

Three times this chapter refers to “the preparation”. This is a reference to Jewish tradition of preparing for the feast of unleavened bread, the day before the feast is the preparation, you aren’t allowed to be working on the sabbath (the feast day is considered a sabbath) so this day is called the preparation. But I’m going to ignore the Jewish tradition because that is only a shadow, what we are witnessing here is the true preparation. Jesus is the incarnate word full of grace and reality. This is the reality of the preparation. Proverbs 28:4 They that forsake the law praise the wicked; But such as keep the law contend with them. 5 Evil men understand not justice; But they that seek Jehovah understand all things. 6 Better is the poor that walketh in his integrity, Than he that is perverse in his ways, though he be rich. So what is the preparation? How could I know what the “preparation” for the Passover is if I don’t know what the Passover is? The root word for Passover is the word for stand, it signifies that God is about to stand over the house to prevent it from being broken into and robbed. The avenging angel is coming to take vengeance on the cruel and abusive people and the blood on your doorpost indicates that you were not one of the abusive ones, rather you were one of those that had been abused. If you praise the wicked who are calling for Jesus to be crucified then you are one who has forsaken the law. If you are contending with those calling for the crucifixion of Jesus then you are one that keeps the law. To keep the law refers to keeping it under trial, when the pressure is on. The evil ones calling for Jesus to be crucified don’t understand justice, they claim they are keeping the law. Pilate also doesn’t understand justice. If you are one who is easily swayed and goes whichever way the wind blows then you don’t understand justice. You may think “you have a good heart” but your heart is deceitfully wicked and you don’t even know it. This crucifixion is perverse in its ways. Who cares if these are the religious or political leaders of the country, they are all about to suffer God’s wrath and judgement. I would much rather be poor and able to stand before the judgement seat of Christ than to be rich and condemned at the Great White Throne judgment.

So let’s apply this to today. The second impeachment of Trump, that was not justice, that was wicked. Accusing 75 million people who voted for Trump of insurrection because the FBI engineered a false flag operation, that is not justice, it is wickedness. Recently the court in Manhattan is doing outrageous attempt to find anything that they can pin on Trump or Giuliani. Those that are keeping the law are contending with the powers that be concerning the truth, concerning election fraud, concerning censorship, concerning the use of vaccine passports, etc. They understand how all of this is moving towards a totalitarian regime of the Antichrist. They understand that what is going on is perverse and even if they lose their job, are excommunicated from society, imprisoned or even killed it is better to be able to stand before the Lord’s throne than to be cast into the lake of fire with the wicked.

This is what the preparation of the Passover does. It separates out those who will be judged for their sins from those who are covered by the Lord’s blood. It separates out those who like Moses would prefer to be poor and walk in integrity than to be perverse. It separates those who know Jesus Christ, full of grace and truth, from those who are deceitfully wicked.
 

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Why do we need to put so many billions into the war in Ukraine.

We just got out of Afghanistan, a war that we spent trillions. We are out of the Iraq war, another multi trillion dollar war. So how can anyone even ask this question? Do you realize how much it costs to put your kids through private school? Surely you do not expect the executives of this industrial military complex to send their kids to public school. Do you know how much it costs to live in gated community? Surely you don't expect them to put their families out in the neighborhoods where they have defunded the police and emptied the prisons. Do you know how much it costs to keep up a few luxury cars, vacations to the French Riviera, just look at inflation, whatever the costs were a few years ago the costs have easily gone up 30%. Now if you don't have a war you turn off that faucet, everything dries up and then they will have to live like everyone else. Surely you don't think that these rulers are fools. So obviously we need another war to pump billions and billions into. This is a matter of life or death for the elites.