The New Apostolic Movement

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A defining of such is needed.
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soberxp

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The New servant movement.:sneaky:
 

Blik

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A defining of such is needed.
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The apostolic church is the church for the first 300 years after Christ. It changed abruptly when Constantine took over reorganizing it, using methods he used in the world.

The first change he made was major for instead of church problems being taken to the apostles, they were solved by a counsel. Before, they were taken to the person closest to the actual teaching by Christ when he was here, in other words, to the apostles.

We learn about this early church through reading the writings of the early church fathers like Clement and Polycarp.
 

soberxp

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People don't think well of it because they think the revelation from God is over until the apostles and 12 disciples. There is no more revelation from God.
Most people think they are fake teachers.

I think they should change their name to The New servant Reformation.Otherwise, it is difficult to be recognized by most people.
 

Nehemiah6

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A defining of such is needed.
The New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) Movement is an attempt to impose modern "apostles and prophets" over Christians, and also mislead them regarding the establishment of the Kingdom of God on earth.

This is also called the "Dominionist Movement" since it wants to establish the Kingdom on earth right now -- not wait until after the Second Coming of Christ. However, it will be hard to identify, since there is no NAR denomination.

'The “Gospel of the Kingdom” is the NAR teaching that God, through Christ’s death and resurrection, has made the way for Christians to take dominion of the earth. This is a redefined gospel in contrast to the gospel of salvation from sin that, historically, has been taught by evangelicals.'

For more detailed information, please go to:
https://www.apologeticsindex.org/2977-new-apostolic-reformation-overview#Gospel_of_the_Kingdom
 

Edify

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One only needs to investigate the NAR to find countless sites explaining its false doctrines.
 

Blik

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People don't think well of it because they think the revelation from God is over until the apostles and 12 disciples. There is no more revelation from God.
Most people think they are fake teachers.

I think they should change their name to The New servant Reformation.Otherwise, it is difficult to be recognized by most people.
People simply reject anything that disturbs their set way of understanding, even when what is new is simply a rediscovery of what was of old.
 

soberxp

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People simply reject anything that disturbs their set way of understanding, even when what is new is simply a rediscovery of what was of old.
I agree with you.
I just looked up some information, which doesn't represent my point of view.
Usually I don't like to evaluate other church organizations. I think it will only lead to the division of Christians.

But I really think they should change their name,

The New servant Reformation.
 
May 22, 2020
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The New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) Movement is an attempt to impose modern "apostles and prophets" over Christians, and also mislead them regarding the establishment of the Kingdom of God on earth.

This is also called the "Dominionist Movement" since it wants to establish the Kingdom on earth right now -- not wait until after the Second Coming of Christ. However, it will be hard to identify, since there is no NAR denomination.

'The “Gospel of the Kingdom” is the NAR teaching that God, through Christ’s death and resurrection, has made the way for Christians to take dominion of the earth. This is a redefined gospel in contrast to the gospel of salvation from sin that, historically, has been taught by evangelicals.'

For more detailed information, please go to:
https://www.apologeticsindex.org/2977-new-apostolic-reformation-overview#Gospel_of_the_Kingdom

Do we know it's time of and place of origin?
 
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Anytime you see the word "movement" associated with a group of people, you should beware!

These are more wolves in sheep's clothing. They are moving closer to the edge and they want you moving with them. Of course they want your money. Never trust them. They will mix a little truth with false teaching and call it all good.
 

arthurfleminger

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The New Apostolic Reformation, is an unbiblical religious movement that emphasizes experience over Scripture, mysticism over doctrine, and modern-day “apostles” over the plain text of the Bible. Of particular distinction in the New Apostolic Reformation are the role and power of spiritual leaders and miracle-workers, the reception of “new” revelations from God, an over-emphasis on spiritual warfare, and a pursuit of cultural and political control in society. The seeking of signs and wonders in the NAR is always accompanied by blatantly false doctrine.
 

arthurfleminger

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A defining of such is needed.
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The New Apostolic Reformation, or NAR, is an unbiblical religious movement that emphasizes experience over Scripture, mysticism over doctrine, and modern-day “apostles” over the plain text of the Bible. Of particular distinction in the New Apostolic Reformation are the role and power of spiritual leaders and miracle-workers, the reception of “new” revelations from God, an over-emphasis on spiritual warfare, and a pursuit of cultural and political control in society. The seeking of signs and wonders in the NAR is always accompanied by blatantly false doctrine.
 

Blik

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Anytime you see the word "movement" associated with a group of people, you should beware!

These are more wolves in sheep's clothing. They are moving closer to the edge and they want you moving with them. Of course they want your money. Never trust them. They will mix a little truth with false teaching and call it all good.
We are given explicit instructions about what to do about the wolves. We are to replace evil with good, to love them, heap good on them.

You know the basic law of our church. We are to love God and it is like loving God to love others. How can we have love for others, if our approach to others is to beware of them?
 
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We are given explicit instructions about what to do about the wolves. We are to replace evil with good, to love them, heap good on them.

You know the basic law of our church. We are to love God and it is like loving God to love others. How can we have love for others, if our approach to others is to beware of them?
I doubt God expects us to love His antagonists and unbelievers.
Assist in time of true need...yes. Pray that God will heap blessings upon them...yes

We must remember we are not to associate with that cadre.
 

soberxp

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I doubt God expects us to love His antagonists and unbelievers.
Assist in time of true need...yes. Pray that God will heap blessings upon them...yes

We must remember we are not to associate with that cadre.
If you know any big shot in NAR, can you suggest that they change their name.

Tell them we should be humble first,The New servant Reformation
 

Nehemiah6

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Do we know it's time of and place of origin?
"In 1996, the American theologian C. Peter Wagner organized a convention with 500 evangelical leaders, the National Symposium on the Postdenominational Church, including the organization of the church and evangelization, at the Fuller Theological Seminary of Pasadena in the United States.[7] Since this convention, the term has been used more and more in churches." Wikipedia

Fuller departed from biblical inerrancy many years ago: "Harold Lindsell who served as vice-president at Fuller Theological Seminary documented Fuller’s departure from inerrancy in The Battle for the Bible. Lindsell dedicated chapter six to this battle at Fuller: The Strange Case of Fuller Theological Seminary."
 

Evmur

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Do we know it's time of and place of origin?
it has a history, you might look at the "Latter rain" doctrine. seems like each new generation produces some form of perfectionist movement. It's all about control freakery. It's immediate predecessor was the "Shepherding" revelation.
 

arthurfleminger

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A defining of such is needed.
Anyone?

The New Apostolic Reformation is a complete SCAM!!!!!!!!!! A synopsis of the 'New Apostolic Reformation':


The New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) is a dominionist movement which asserts that God is restoring the lost offices of church governance, namely the offices of Prophet and Apostle.

Leading figures in this seemingly loosely organized movement claim that these prophets and apostles alone have the power and authority to execute God’s plans and purposes on earth. They believe they are laying the foundation for a global church, governed by them.

They place a greater emphasis on dreams, visions and extra-biblical revelation than they do on the Bible, claiming that their revealed teachings and reported experiences (e.g. trips to heaven, face-to-face conversations with Jesus, visits by angels) can not be proven by the ‘old’ Scripture