An Analysis on the 144,000 in Revelation

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So the question @kleronomos - did you almost fall off your chair also?
No, but all the "here a little and there a little" s were, 'in a moment' set into place and all my 'I don't understands' became "Thank you LORD, I see that now" and scripture has not come into conflict since.

IF IT WASN'T A 'sealing' in my forehead, and it was just another moment in time unlike any moment before or since, a moment my brain decided (all on it's own) to do some super amazingly efficient rearranging of a thousand bits of knowledge I couldn't ever place before then and the end result is Truth for which there is 'it is written' Scripture without 'what he really meant' and nothing that has to be concluded

THEN I can't imagine what a 'sealing' would be like. SO again, NO, I DID NOT ALMOST FALL OFF MY CHAIR,

BUT I DID FALL TO MY KNEES.
 
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So the question @kleronomos - did you almost fall off your chair also?
For you to be sarcastic like that shows me your heart of pride... I am REAL and God knows it And at the right time... all will know it. ...all of creation waits for the revealing of the Sons of God... It just surprises me with all this Bible talk about the scripture and then someone tells you that scripture actually came to life and actually happened and you make fun of it which shows me you are in unbelief. Theres nothing to be Jealous It’s The beautiful ways of God if you will see him as a loving father Hes choosing vessels that he will work his glory in which will be to your benefit.. this is God’s love to his people it’s his way of helping and saving his own people you’re to honor God’s chosen they are doing this work and labor for you to give you heaven....don’t dishonor them so God can have favor on you
 
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No, but all the "here a little and there a little" s were, 'in a moment' set into place and all my 'I don't understands' became "Thank you LORD, I see that now" and scripture has not come into conflict since.

IF IT WASN'T A 'sealing' in my forehead, and it was just another moment in time unlike any moment before or since, a moment my brain decided (all on it's own) to do some super amazingly efficient rearranging of a thousand bits of knowledge I couldn't ever place before then and the end result is Truth for which there is 'it is written' Scripture without 'what he really meant' and nothing that has to be concluded

THEN I can't imagine what a 'sealing' would be like. SO again, NO, I DID NOT ALMOST FALL OFF MY CHAIR,

BUT I DID FALL TO MY KNEES.
Amen!! God is Great!! Keep your Faith!!
 

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You would know what I mean if you had that experience. All I can say is that it’s true that God will send his Angels to put a seal on the forehead of these 144,000 I had this experience about 15 years ago it’s written in a journal Along with so many other experiences I’ve had with the Lord. But I’ve not met anyone who had this same experience as of yet....I can say That after the Holy Spirit made it plain to me what had taken place I almost fell off my chair in Awe of the lord and humility. 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Nope never had it. How does one become of the 144,000? Am I saved if not part of this group?
 

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For you to be sarcastic like that shows me your heart of pride... I am REAL and God knows it And at the right time... all will know it. ...all of creation waits for the revealing of the Sons of God... It just surprises me with all this Bible talk about the scripture and then someone tells you that scripture actually came to life and actually happened and you make fun of it which shows me you are in unbelief. Theres nothing to be Jealous It’s The beautiful ways of God if you will see him as a loving father Hes choosing vessels that he will work his glory in which will be to your benefit.. this is God’s love to his people it’s his way of helping and saving his own people you’re to honor God’s chosen they are doing this work and labor for you to give you heaven....don’t dishonor them so God can have favor on you
Discernment wasn't one of the benefits of being sealed then, sister. So why do you say that I should NOT be jealous? You make an awful lot of my faith - being yet in unbelief - to cite yourself - and appear to be concerned that I reject you because I made a somewhat British cadence to incredulity of your claims. You say that you journalised your experience. So why not express the material claim - rather than provoke a claim with no substance to either receive it or else as a means to test it?
 
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Amen!! God is Great!! Keep your Faith!!
As you well know, there is life before and there is life after. There is study and understanding before and there is study and understanding after. There is a want before and there is a NEED after. Love to feel your spirit!!! It is a beautiful thing. And remember when anyone 'persecutes' you for doing good and speaking truth the LORD will recompense. Makes it nothing more than 'water off a ducks back'.
 

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No, but all the "here a little and there a little" s were, 'in a moment' set into place and all my 'I don't understands' became "Thank you LORD, I see that now" and scripture has not come into conflict since.

IF IT WASN'T A 'sealing' in my forehead, and it was just another moment in time unlike any moment before or since, a moment my brain decided (all on it's own) to do some super amazingly efficient rearranging of a thousand bits of knowledge I couldn't ever place before then and the end result is Truth for which there is 'it is written' Scripture without 'what he really meant' and nothing that has to be concluded

THEN I can't imagine what a 'sealing' would be like. SO again, NO, I DID NOT ALMOST FALL OFF MY CHAIR,

BUT I DID FALL TO MY KNEES.
That amounts to saying no more than you were mentally invigorated by the Spirit so as to suddenly make all the "here a little and there a little" folks fall off their chairs. @godlovejoy made an express claim to being sealed as one of the 144,000 numbered in Revelation.

Seeing as you fly the French flag - have you heard of the French Prophets?

https://ueaeprints.uea.ac.uk/id/eprint/10593/1/Thesis_laborie_l_2010.pdf

Read it. Its a PhD paper.
 
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Nope never had it. How does one become of the 144,000? Am I saved if not part of this group?
Well the reason Jesus said it’s easier for a Camel to Go through the eye of a needle than a rich man to Inherit the kingdom of God is because it’s like an Abrahamic calling you have to be willing to forsake everything and follow Jesus...if God were to take even your own child away that you would trust him against all fleshly thinking and be willing to follow him and put him above everything in your life that’s what makes you worthy as Jesus speaks in his words you must hate your mother and father to be worthy of me that’s what he means and you walk the narrow way being led by the spirit and never forsake the Lord this is how you will inherit the kingdom of God if you search for God and want God with a passion like you would search for a treasure and sell everything to buy it....These parables are describing the way a person would feel about the Lord if you love him that much like you would love your wife then you can be accepted into the Kingdom. God will be able to trust you that he is you’re number one! the disciples had to leave their own families to follow Jesus. God doesn’t always ask that but if he does you have to do it I’ve left my daughter Ive proven to God that I would trust him. She came back to me in my life but now she has left again because of the work I do with the Lord she doesn’t understand she thinks I serve a different God but I know the true God. Signs and wonders follow me I could share lots of testimony and you would understand but of course we can’t do that here.

We are the ones that if you bless us God will bless you if you receive us he’ll receive you and you will receive a reward just as those who believed Jesus when he came to earth now the ones that are sent from Jesus like myself....if I am received God will bless that person. It’s just the way God is...The same yesterday today and tomorrow the I am that I am.
God Bless You Greatly.!! Many are called we pretty much do the choosing by saying YES. sometimes people are chosen at a young age like myself but God uses me to choose others he will use me to make a way for them to receive the kingdom through me if they want it God will grant it to them that’s what he means when he gives the keys To his disciples this is the authority God gives them. These are mysteries and hard to understand but these are the ways of God, the true God, the one that we cannot figure out the one that is unsearchable!! So if God calls you like the parable those that are built into the marriage dinner those are the ones that are called if you say you have better things to do and you don’t wanna go then God will find a lame the meme and he will have his banquet filled and he’s doing this not in a prideful way like the chosen are better than anyone else it’s just for the good of all of God‘s people some are in authority and power that’s all but it’s to benefit all
 
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That amounts to saying no more than you were mentally invigorated by the Spirit so as to suddenly make all the "here a little and there a little" folks fall off their chairs. @godlovejoy made an express claim to being sealed as one of the 144,000 numbered in Revelation.

Seeing as you fly the French flag - have you heard of the French Prophets?

https://ueaeprints.uea.ac.uk/id/eprint/10593/1/Thesis_laborie_l_2010.pdf

Read it. Its a PhD paper.
I agree, no words could ever truly come close to describing what truly took place. But you did effectively make it sound small and insignificant. Which bears the question, if it were indeed the workings of the Holy Spirit I just confessed in front of all men, I wonder how your response would fair? Don't you? I wonder if it falls as sort of a 'stumbling block' set in front of the ewes.
 

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I agree, no words could ever truly come close to describing what truly took place. But you did effectively make it sound small and insignificant. Which bears the question, if it were indeed the workings of the Holy Spirit I just confessed in front of all men, I wonder how your response would fair? Don't you? I wonder if it falls as sort of a 'stumbling block' set in front of the ewes.
My response was limited and reasonable. You ought to read the claims made by the sister you say you discern in the Spirit because what she is saying amounts to a curse on others.

She made such a curse to myself here to another poster:

Theres nothing to be Jealous It’s The beautiful ways of God if you will see him as a loving father Hes choosing vessels that he will work his glory in which will be to your benefit.. this is God’s love to his people it’s his way of helping and saving his own people you’re to honor God’s chosen they are doing this work and labor for you to give you heaven....don’t dishonor them so God can have favor on you
And she then expressed the same falsehood here:

We are the ones that if you bless us God will bless you if you receive us he’ll receive you and you will receive a reward just as those who believed Jesus when he came to earth now the ones that are sent from Jesus like myself....if I am received God will bless that person.
So let me say it plainly. I do NOT receive your exclamation regarding how I would fair were your own confession a true witness to the working of the Holy Spirit - and neither the foolishness of laying snares amounting to curses - howsoever carefully they may be contracted. You made ruin of your own witness by laying down with an utterly reprehensible spirit working in another.
 
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As you well know, there is life before and there is life after. There is study and understanding before and there is study and understanding after. There is a want before and there is a NEED after. Love to feel your spirit!!! It is a beautiful thing. And remember when anyone 'persecutes' you for doing good and speaking truth the LORD will recompense. Makes it nothing more than 'water off a ducks back'.
Thank you...I know God will Bless You!!
 
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My response was limited and reasonable. You ought to read the claims made by the sister you say you discern in the Spirit because what she is saying amounts to a curse on others.

She made such a curse to myself here:



And she then expressed the same falsehood here:



So let me say it plainly. I do NOT receive your exclamation regarding how I would fair were your own confession a true witness to the working of the Holy Spirit - and neither the foolishness of laying snares amounting to curses - howsoever carefully they may be contracted. You made ruin of your own witness by laying down with an utterly reprehensible spirit working in another.
And hence “The Persecution Cometh”. Your judgments won’t hurt me they’ll hurt you so I hope And pray that you go to the Lord rather than judging his little ones.... you would just be better to hold your tongue that’s all...
 
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And hence “The Persecution Cometh”. Your judgments won’t hurt me they’ll hurt you so I hope And pray that you go to the Lord rather than judging his little ones.... you would just be better to hold your tongue that’s all...
Sister, I make a point of not wrestling with women. So I will spare you a response to your foolish words when you say, "And pray that you go to the Lord rather than judging his little ones." I made my comment visible to yourself about yourself to another poster. Now I affirm the same meaning to yourself in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ.
 
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My response was limited and reasonable. You ought to read the claims made by the sister you say you discern in the Spirit because what she is saying amounts to a curse on others.

She made such a curse to myself here to another poster:



And she then expressed the same falsehood here:



So let me say it plainly. I do NOT receive your exclamation regarding how I would fair were your own confession a true witness to the working of the Holy Spirit - and neither the foolishness of laying snares amounting to curses - howsoever carefully they may be contracted. You made ruin of your own witness by laying down with an utterly reprehensible spirit working in another.
Such a harsh judgment and witness you make
 

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Well the reason Jesus said it’s easier for a Camel to Go through the eye of a needle than a rich man to Inherit the kingdom of God is because it’s like an Abrahamic calling you have to be willing to forsake everything and follow Jesus...if God were to take even your own child away that you would trust him against all fleshly thinking and be willing to follow him and put him above everything in your life that’s what makes you worthy as Jesus speaks in his words you must hate your mother and father to be worthy of me that’s what he means and you walk the narrow way being led by the spirit and never forsake the Lord this is how you will inherit the kingdom of God if you search for God and want God with a passion like you would search for a treasure and sell everything to buy it....These parables are describing the way a person would feel about the Lord if you love him that much like you would love your wife then you can be accepted into the Kingdom. God will be able to trust you that he is you’re number one! the disciples had to leave their own families to follow Jesus. God doesn’t always ask that but if he does you have to do it I’ve left my daughter Ive proven to God that I would trust him. She came back to me in my life but now she has left again because of the work I do with the Lord she doesn’t understand she thinks I serve a different God but I know the true God. Signs and wonders follow me I could share lots of testimony and you would understand but of course we can’t do that here.

We are the ones that if you bless us God will bless you if you receive us he’ll receive you and you will receive a reward just as those who believed Jesus when he came to earth now the ones that are sent from Jesus like myself....if I am received God will bless that person. It’s just the way God is...The same yesterday today and tomorrow the I am that I am.
God Bless You Greatly.!! Many are called we pretty much do the choosing by saying YES. sometimes people are chosen at a young age like myself but God uses me to choose others he will use me to make a way for them to receive the kingdom through me if they want it God will grant it to them that’s what he means when he gives the keys To his disciples this is the authority God gives them. These are mysteries and hard to understand but these are the ways of God, the true God, the one that we cannot figure out the one that is unsearchable!! So if God calls you like the parable those that are built into the marriage dinner those are the ones that are called if you say you have better things to do and you don’t wanna go then God will find a lame the meme and he will have his banquet filled and he’s doing this not in a prideful way like the chosen are better than anyone else it’s just for the good of all of God‘s people some are in authority and power that’s all but it’s to benefit all
Okay so let me see if I understand. Are you saying only 144,000 people will be saved?
 

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Sister, I make a point of not wrestling with women. So I will spare you a response to your foolish words when you say, "And pray that you go to the Lord rather than judging his little ones." I made my comment visible to yourself about yourself to another poster. Now I affirm the same meaning to yourself in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ.
I do agree that there seems to be some unbiblical beliefs but why do you not debate with women? Truth is important.
 
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