Alcohol - a world wide phenomena

Here we go;


Proverbs 20:1
1 Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise.

Proverbs 31:6
6 Give strong drink unto him that is ready to perish, and wine unto those that be of heavy hearts.

Isaiah 24:9
9 They shall not drink wine with a song; strong drink shall be bitter to them that drink it.

What I want is to see this grapejuice press of the Lord in Revelation 14.

Without the chapter / verse reference I would say that this sounds like what is expected from someone who has taken a Nazorite vow. Even then, you can be released from such a vow after a period of time. Unless one is planning on being a Nazorite this passage does not apply. I can't really see how this applies to Jesus turning water into wine at Cana.

Yes, I know this is about the Nazarite vow, however, the passage is forbidden the one taking the vow from partaking in anything that comes from the vine. The passage describes that which comes from the vine. What exactly are the different things coming from the vine?

3 He shall separate himself from wine and strong drink, and shall drink no vinegar of wine, or vinegar of strong drink, neither shall he drink any liquor of grapes, nor eat moist grapes, or dried.
4 All the days of his separation shall he eat nothing that is made of the vine tree, from the kernels even to the husk.

What is wine that comes from the vine?
What is strong drink that comes from the vine?
What is vinegar of wine?
What is vinegar of strong drink?
What is liquor of grapes?

Is this a rhetorical question, or do you really not know?

God funded the only study that matters by the blood of Jesus, and if you study that carefully, you'll find the scientific method and the proof that alcohol kills, and it was written and published in the world renowned Diagnostic and Salvation Manual, called the Bible, Authored by the Great Physician Himself.

Have you ever heard, "The Bible is NOT a science book!!!!1!"?

No, the Bible is 'the science book'.

It contains all real knowledge and the science of all sciences, the science of Calvary, the science of salvation, the light of which, illuminates all other sciences. The scientific method is found at Calvary.

The Bible is also not a history book, but it is 'the history book', in which is the history to understand all histories, for it contains the life of the one true history of Jesus Christ, whom every man or woman ought to know for themselves.

My comment was not made in reference to post 315.

I have no idea what you are talking about. I never said that the bible is not a science book. Things are getting out of hand. I believe we are done here in this thread. Further debate is pointless.

An entirely contradictory position, unfortunately. The position of practical hypocrisy (saying one thing, doing another thing). Don't take me wrong; that you don't drink alcohol, commendable, but they logic upon your part confused. It's like a united States soldier fighting in the Americas Civil War wearing the North's top, and South's bottom. You can only be shot at by both. Your theological and/or practical position is the most untenable, unsustainable, of all here.

Look up the word for liquor of grapes.

Num 6:3: "He shall separate himself from wine and strong drink, and shall drink no vinegar of wine, or vinegar of strong drink, neither shall he drink any liquor of grapes, nor eat moist grapes, or dried."

H4952.

Then look up "liquor" in English:

"liquor (n.) c. 1200, likur "any matter in a liquid state, a liquid or fluid substance," from Old French licor "fluid, liquid; sap; oil" (12c., Modern French liqueur), from Latin liquorem (nominative liquor) "a liquid, liquor; wine; the sea," originally "liquidity, fluidity," from liquere "be fluid, liquid" (see liquid (adj.)). liquor (n.) c. 1200, likur "any matter in a liquid state, a liquid or fluid substance," from Old French licor "fluid, liquid; sap; oil" (12c., Modern French liqueur), from Latin liquorem (nominative liquor) "a liquid, liquor; wine; the sea," originally "liquidity, fluidity," from liquere "be fluid, liquid" (see liquid (adj.)). " - https://www.etymonline.com/word/liquor

So "liquor of grapes" is grape juice.

I'm not 100% sure

Or is it...

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Are Christians Kings and Priests? Do they currently serve by faith in God's Temple made without hands?

Calvary is not testable, repeatable, or falsifiable (and is only observable through Scripture). It fails three of the four requirements to be "scientific". Your claim is admirable but completely and utterly wrong. That you even make the claim and ignore the words you posted tells me that you didn't give this an ounce of critical thought.

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R u sure?

Gal 2:20: "I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me."

Gal 5:24: "And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts."

You believe you can imbibe natural alcohol (wine) in 'moderation' right?

Do you believe the same for spiritual alcohol (wine)? Imbibing a 'moderate' amount of the Babylonian wine (Rev 17; 1 Cor 15:46) is ok with you right?

R u sure?

2 Cor 3:3: "Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart."

R u sure?

1Pet 1:7: "That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:"

R u sure?

Rev 14:12: "Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus."