Russia preparing for war

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ZNP

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Thanks,,, so as for Gog/Magog you see this as appertaining to Ezekiel and then also from your post #639 where you quoted Revelation 17 you are seeing the current events as the fulfillment of both Ezekiel and Revelation 17? If so in Revelation 16 who do you see as the three foul spirits?
Just to clarify, I see that Russia has started on a path that will lead to them attacking the US down the road and ultimately attacking Israel. This process could take 7 years, but yes, I see that what has started will not stop until we arrive in Israel according to Ezekiel 38. there is a lot of dispute over whether or not Ezekiel 38 refers to Armageddon, I don't think so because they use the scraps from that war for 7 years. I think Ezekiel 38 takes place before the tribulation and sets up the Antichrist to confirm the covenant with Israel.

As for the 7 bowls in Revelation 16 why are you asking me? I have already made it clear that this is not my interest, I am focused on what happens prior to the start of the Tribulation. Many subscribe to the fact that the 7 seals play out over 7 years, 7 trumpets over 7 months and the 7 bowls over 7 days. The bowls of wrath are poured out during the great tribulation, by then all believers will be gone because we have not been appointed to wrath. Therefore I think these bowls take place more than 3 1/2 years after Ezekiel 38 and probably more like 6 years after.

But I believe it is what it says it is, some very nasty unclean spirits from the mouth of the false prophet.
 

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Just to clarify, I see that Russia has started on a path that will lead to them attacking the US down the road and ultimately attacking Israel. This process could take 7 years, but yes, I see that what has started will not stop until we arrive in Israel according to Ezekiel 38. there is a lot of dispute over whether or not Ezekiel 38 refers to Armageddon, I don't think so because they use the scraps from that war for 7 years. I think Ezekiel 38 takes place before the tribulation and sets up the Antichrist to confirm the covenant with Israel.

As for the 7 bowls in Revelation 16 why are you asking me? I have already made it clear that this is not my interest, I am focused on what happens prior to the start of the Tribulation. Many subscribe to the fact that the 7 seals play out over 7 years, 7 trumpets over 7 months and the 7 bowls over 7 days. The bowls of wrath are poured out during the great tribulation, by then all believers will be gone because we have not been appointed to wrath. Therefore I think these bowls take place more than 3 1/2 years after Ezekiel 38 and probably more like 6 years after.

But I believe it is what it says it is, some very nasty unclean spirits from the mouth of the false prophet.

And see that puzzles me in that at some point this Gog Magog is destroyed but is this before the thousand years or after(?), as in Revelation 20 8-9 and how do they end up still in existence after the thousand years if they are destroyed at or around the tribulation and it is before the thousand years.... https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Revelation-Chapter-20/
 

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And see that puzzles me in that at some point this Gog Magog is destroyed but is this before the thousand years or after(?), as in Revelation 20 8-9 and how do they end up still in existence after the thousand years if they are destroyed at or around the tribulation and it is before the thousand years.... https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Revelation-Chapter-20/
I have seen people give long detailed accounts with timelines as though they know everything that will happen and when. However, they can't tell you when the tribulation begins or when the rapture is. In other words they can't tell you the first thing and by the time we find out if they are right about the other stuff it won't matter. Not only so but they are all so incredibly confident that they alone are right even though there are many different and contradictory interpretations. So I really have very little patience for this.

I want to make the first rapture and if I miss that then I'll probably become more interested in what happens during the tribulation but my plan is simple. I will be very outspoken in the gospel so that I get decapitated immediately.
 

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I have seen people give long detailed accounts with timelines as though they know everything that will happen and when. However, they can't tell you when the tribulation begins or when the rapture is. In other words they can't tell you the first thing and by the time we find out if they are right about the other stuff it won't matter. Not only so but they are all so incredibly confident that they alone are right even though there are many different and contradictory interpretations. So I really have very little patience for this.

I want to make the first rapture and if I miss that then I'll probably become more interested in what happens during the tribulation but my plan is simple. I will be very outspoken in the gospel so that I get decapitated immediately.

Amen brother...
 

Lanolin

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well kindy children are asking questions

why it there a war? And what are YOU going to tell them?


well children its because people are stupid and play with weapons and think its fun. And bigger countries want to gang up on smaller countries just cos they can.
 

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well kindy children are asking questions

why it there a war? And what are YOU going to tell them?


well children its because people are stupid and play with weapons and think its fun. And bigger countries want to gang up on smaller countries just cos they can.


Yep I live in the big thicket in East Texas and Texas has come a long ways across my life. Every night there are 9mm gun shots(sounds like 9mm's the new fad) but shotguns and others also. It's like one guy goes out in the yard and empties a clip and then someone a few streets over thinks "oh yea listen to this" and he shoots for a while. Then someone a few roads over shoots when he's done and then someone else. On the weekend it goes on till three or four in the morning. After they passed the constitutional carry stuff I noticed to the south of me and to the west there are now fully automatic gunfire "zip,zip,,20-30 rounds". The first time I head it I thought whoa they wont do that long before the law stops that but it's week after week for about a year now. I cant figure out where they can find that much ammo or even afford it. We got so used to it that we sleep right through it now, I hope Russia don't ever invade one night because I might think it's normal and sleep through it too.
 

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not sure but it looks as if the 40 mile convoy is now being attacked by Ukraine
If that's true then that is what Ukraine should be doing. But relying on CNN for any truthful news is like asking for Fake News. That is their specialty.
 

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If that's true then that is what Ukraine should be doing. But relying on CNN for any truthful news is like asking for Fake News. That is their specialty.

lol, yep I don't trust much of any media outlet(since the 70's, hence me saying "not sure") but I agree that is exactly what I would do myself right now because of the weather,,, in the snow,with plowed fields on both sides of the convoy everything that gets off the road is stuck till it dries out.... https://www.wunderground.com/forecast/ua/kyiv so block the front and rear and work it over their trapped.
 

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Just to clarify, I see that Russia has started on a path that will lead to them attacking the US down the road and ultimately attacking Israel. This process could take 7 years, but yes, I see that what has started will not stop until we arrive in Israel according to Ezekiel 38. there is a lot of dispute over whether or not Ezekiel 38 refers to Armageddon, I don't think so because they use the scraps from that war for 7 years. I think Ezekiel 38 takes place before the tribulation and sets up the Antichrist to confirm the covenant with Israel.

As for the 7 bowls in Revelation 16 why are you asking me? I have already made it clear that this is not my interest, I am focused on what happens prior to the start of the Tribulation. Many subscribe to the fact that the 7 seals play out over 7 years, 7 trumpets over 7 months and the 7 bowls over 7 days. The bowls of wrath are poured out during the great tribulation, by then all believers will be gone because we have not been appointed to wrath. Therefore I think these bowls take place more than 3 1/2 years after Ezekiel 38 and probably more like 6 years after.

But I believe it is what it says it is, some very nasty unclean spirits from the mouth of the false prophet.
If we were to unleash our full military power on russia, we would rip them a proverbial new one
 

ZNP

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If we were to unleash our full military power on russia, we would rip them a proverbial new one
Really? How would we do that? It took us months to send tanks and equipment to prepare for the Iraq war the first time.

So what do you recommend? Fly in with our planes into enemy territory and do what? Surely not drop bombs in Ukraine. You want us to fly into Russia and drop bombs? How exactly do we "rip them a new one"? Do you want boots on the ground? You want us to send 300,000 troops to Europe with tanks and equipment so that we can roll into Ukraine and then into Russia?

You obviously have a much clearer vision of how we could do this than anyone else so I think we should send you. Take your baseball bat with you and "rip Russia a new one".
 

Lanolin

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again it cant be solved with baseball.

Maybe soccer but definitely not baseball. They dont know the rules.
Most countries are banning Russia from playing games anyway.

If they wanted to do a competition, how about ballet?
I propose that instead of playing wargames, all the money that was poured into weaponry be poured into Russias ballet company to put on the best Ballet show the world has ever seen.

Im sure no other country can beat the Russians in ballet.
 

ZNP

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again it cant be solved with baseball.

Maybe soccer but definitely not baseball. They dont know the rules.
Most countries are banning Russia from playing games anyway.

If they wanted to do a competition, how about ballet?
I propose that instead of playing wargames, all the money that was poured weaponry be poured into Russias ballet company to put on the best Ballet show the world has ever seen.

Im sure no other country can beat the Russians in ballet.
We could beat the Russians in Ballet. We send our WWF fighters and they will take out those women and men in little Tutus.

What we don't want to do is turn this into a chess match.
 

Lanolin

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We could beat the Russians in Ballet. We send our WWF fighters and they will take out those women and men in little Tutus.

What we don't want to do is turn this into a chess match.
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I mean do the Ballet, like perform it what are YOU talking about.

anyway, whats wrong with chess? What they could do is build the worlds largest chess board and challenge other countries to a match. They have enough land to make a really giant one. They could move the pieces with giant cranes.
 

Lanolin

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I vote for the Nutcracker and Swan Lake
 

Dude653

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Really? How would we do that? It took us months to send tanks and equipment to prepare for the Iraq war the first time.

So what do you recommend? Fly in with our planes into enemy territory and do what? Surely not drop bombs in Ukraine. You want us to fly into Russia and drop bombs? How exactly do we "rip them a new one"? Do you want boots on the ground? You want us to send 300,000 troops to Europe with tanks and equipment so that we can roll into Ukraine and then into Russia?

You obviously have a much clearer vision of how we could do this than anyone else so I think we should send you. Take your baseball bat with you and "rip Russia a new one".
we could do the same thing other countries are doing and supply Ukraine with weapons and equipment
If Russia decides they want some then we can oblige them