Russia preparing for war

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Thanks. I've been watching a You Tube channel called, "Back To Basics," and it's about some people who explore the wild shores of Australia. Stunningly beautiful country!
 

ZNP

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Well so far I know the Ukraine deceide since 1991 for an Demokratie. In 2013 they fight on the maidan place for this against pro russia polticans which want Ukraine under russia. Since 2014 is an hiding war in Ukraine against russia, which took the Krim, Donezk and Luhansk.
So present the Ukraine is no dictatorship country. But they will, if russia will win this war. I have nothing heared about imprisoned opposition politicans.
If we do believe Putin, then he want have back the russian empire as it was before 1990. Ukraine belongs not to NATO or europian Union. So europe and us have no reason to send soldiers, without provoking World War 3. The Ukrainians fight for their freedom so it correct to help them with weapons and money. Also the people need soon everything, because they are try to escape the war, special woman and children.

Many of the countrys which stayed under sowjetregime in the past fear that Putin will not stop with the Ukraine. In this case all NATO states have to defend.

No, Trump sent not oppose people to prison. Thats correct So far I know.
But I compared Putin and Trump in their behaviour and there i see not much different.
Putin is a murder in attacking the Ukraine.
I cant claim that Trump is a murder and I dont do it.
Why i mentioned Trump? People tend to judge others if they dont like them, very easy. If people we like doing the same, we dont judge them, but agree with them.
Unlike Putin Trump did not get the US into any wars, in fact that is unlike Bill Clinton, unlike Barak Obama, unlike George Bush (both of them) and unlike Ronald Reagan.

So I don't understand you comparing Trump to Putin. You could compare any president of the US to Putin other than Trump, but I still don't see the comparison with trump.

I also know very little about the Ukraine other than the fact that they have paid very big fat salaries to the kids of Biden, Kerry and Pelosi. I also know that Ukraine mob is involved in human trafficking for the Moloch and Baal worshippers. I also know that we don't have a treaty to defend Ukraine. If the shoe was on the other foot and Russia was attacking the US, perhaps invading Alaska, would we expect the Ukraine to come to the defense of the US? Don't think so.

Likewise, is this really an issue for the US? It seems to me it is an issue for Europe and Russia, not the US. I have heard that NATO was trying to put missiles into the Ukraine which would be akin to Russia putting missiles in Cuba. If that is true then I would blame NATO for provoking this.
 

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So I don't understand you comparing Trump to Putin. You could compare any president of the US to Putin other than Trump, but I still don't see the comparison with trump.
When Trump-bashing is in vogue, you can compare Trump to Putin, Stalin, Hitler, and Mussolini. Is that not what the Trump-haters have been doing all along? When Trump told the Germans to avoid getting cozy with Putin, they laughed to his face. Now they are forced to help Ukraine, or be shamed by all the other Europeans.
 

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don't know about war, but definitely conditioning for gov. control.
I agree. A social experiment, even the second mask mandate that was lifted a few weeks ago. All to see how long we'll comply with government overreach.
Nice how Covid-19 comes and goes as a threat and on schedule.
"Essential workers", sounds like something out of Soviet Russia's history. You're an essential worker so you won't be shot or sent to the gulag.
 

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When Trump-bashing is in vogue, you can compare Trump to Putin, Stalin, Hitler, and Mussolini. Is that not what the Trump-haters have been doing all along? When Trump told the Germans to avoid getting cozy with Putin, they laughed to his face. Now they are forced to help Ukraine, or be shamed by all the other Europeans.
Yes, more and more this delusion looks like projection. You have magenta accusing this vague unnamed group of people on this forum of "idolizing" trump, yet refuses to provide any evidence at all that this is not a lie, I suspect it is projection. Then Aidan says Putin could be compared to Trump? Why not to Biden who has just recently acted in a blatantly lawless and tyrannical way?

I have wondered if those who have been so obviously wrong about Trump and Biden would be accountable and admit they are wrong. Sadly what we are seeing is this desperate Scarface approach, incapable of saying they were wrong.
 

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Yes, more and more this delusion looks like projection. You have magenta accusing this vague unnamed group of people on this forum of "idolizing" trump, yet refuses to provide any evidence at all that this is not a lie, I suspect it is projection. Then Aidan says Putin could be compared to Trump? Why not to Biden who has just recently acted in a blatantly lawless and tyrannical way?

I have wondered if those who have been so obviously wrong about Trump and Biden would be accountable and admit they are wrong. Sadly what we are seeing is this desperate Scarface approach, incapable of saying they were wrong.
Trump continues to be hated even when he's out of office. Now look what took his place. I wonder if Trump haters, the TDS crowd, think Biden is a better replacement?
 

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Trump continues to be hated even when he's out of office. Now look what took his place. I wonder if Trump haters, the TDS crowd, think Biden is a better replacement?
At the time the haters didnt care who it was that ran against Trump , its only now that they are waking up to see the clueless leader they really have.
 
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Trump continues to be hated even when he's out of office. Now look what took his place. I wonder if Trump haters, the TDS crowd, think Biden is a better replacement?
Doesn't matter... If not for TDS, they'd have no identity at all!
 
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They need Trump. Oh, now I feel for them. I guess we all need Trump in one way or another!
 

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There is a huge difference between being voted in and STEALING the election. And that is the real source of all the problems. Seventeen states wanted the Supreme Court to investigate the theft of that election, and the Supreme Court refused to do the right thing. There is tons of evidence in several states that the election results were fraudulently changed to give Biden the victory.
If there really was such evidence, how come the Republicans have not been able to make use of it? Biden is still there. American Christians have some soul searching to do. Where is God in all this?
 

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The deep state wanted that because now they can create a false flag event with suitcase nukes that they then blame on Russia. Would not want to be in a major US city at this point.
Myths and fairy tales. Only a psycho wants nuclear war. The earth will be of little use for anything except a toxic waste dump. It will be that anyway.
 

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I believe the rep[orts that Stalin himself planned on invading Europe and that was the impetus to attack Russia, not excusing in any way either side, neither could have been walking in His plan for their lives.
Here is video from Ukraine
Stalin had no intention of invading Germany. He could not defend Russia itself at first. His army lacked leaders because Stalin murdered or exiled most of them. His planes were obsolete. His army was poorly trained. They could not even defeat Finland. If he'd tried to invade Germany, he would have been defeated totally. And he knew it.
 
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If there really was such evidence, how come the Republicans have not been able to make use of it? Biden is still there. American Christians have some soul searching to do. Where is God in all this?
Just because a crooked court refused to see appealed evidence doesn't mean the evidence doesn't exist... but I'm fairly certain there's nobody left on this planet ignorant enough not to see and understand that... except, perhaps, American Socialists, AKA Democrats.
 

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If you're not an America you're just a spectator. And a hateful one is of no good to liberty even in their own land.

I see the Democratic party members currently present in Washington D.C. as enemies of America because they represent, literally, they are enemies of America.

While what many who profess Christ fail in doing is realizing, Donald Trump pre-Christ is dead. His sins are forgiven by God and shall never be held against him.

President Donald Trump represented Christ while in office and far beyond what the former Muslim in office would have ever allowed. President Trump proved himself a friend of Israel in word and action. Something both Democratic and Republican presidents before had only done in lip service. Not action.

President Trump wasn't perfect. No one is. However, he is a master of the game. And we must remember prior to turning to the Republican party to run for the very first time for a public office, the highest office, he was a Democrat. He's switched parties numerous times in his life.

In that regard and as he revealed during his campaign, he rubbed elbows with members of both parties in Congress. He gave them loads of money for their re-election campaigns too. He knows how they work and he used that to his advantage.

When Trump would speak out of turn as some called it, it was for a reason. It served a purpose. Donald Trump is very well spoken. And as he said in his book, and in an interview while president. It's good to be underestimated.
Which is what his seeming rude rhetoric afforded in others watching him.

Meanwhile, he in four short years brought America back from the precipice his predecessors led us to. Because Donald Trump is a businessman and ran America like a business. His predecessors wanted America to go bankrupt and fall from its place as the worlds most powerful nation. They wanted us to be the nanny country and no wonder, when the Left push a nanny government in order for the sucklings to vote Democrat out of gratitude every two and four years.

Donald Trump intended to ween the sucklers and turn their appetites to the meat of a sound governance=government and a strong economy.

And that is why he is out of office! Because the enemies of all of that intend to destroy America. And they're paid very well for their treason.

And for the record, RINO's don't count as Conservatives in our Congress. They count their money received for joining the Left in spirit, and lying to the Conservative base in public. In a truly righteous act of jurisprudence every last one would be under arrest after being impeached from office. And those who left office after committing an act of treason would be in a federal penitentiary for the rest of their life! All assets seized, regardless of where their bank accounts were established. Not even the black robe of the loftiest bench in America would be safe from handcuffs. And life without parole!

But this is the new America. One day we'll tire of the neo-betrayal of American values and integrity. We'll set fire to the papier mâché puppet show that we witness now dancing on strings and acting as a Representative Democratic Republic, and we'll free our country and our people yet again from the tyranny of evil men and women.

Not in my lifetime probably. But one day. Sooner or later people have to realize, if they want change they're going to have to be willing to sacrifice living comfortably in the chains they complain are there yet do nothing about. Because the things they own turn out are owning them.

Revolution is born from Revelation.

God knows it's time.
You realy said that Trump represent Christ?
Unlike Putin Trump did not get the US into any wars, in fact that is unlike Bill Clinton, unlike Barak Obama, unlike George Bush (both of them) and unlike Ronald Reagan.

So I don't understand you comparing Trump to Putin. You could compare any president of the US to Putin other than Trump, but I still don't see the comparison with trump.

I also know very little about the Ukraine other than the fact that they have paid very big fat salaries to the kids of Biden, Kerry and Pelosi. I also know that Ukraine mob is involved in human trafficking for the Moloch and Baal worshippers. I also know that we don't have a treaty to defend Ukraine. If the shoe was on the other foot and Russia was attacking the US, perhaps invading Alaska, would we expect the Ukraine to come to the defense of the US? Don't think so.

Likewise, is this really an issue for the US? It seems to me it is an issue for Europe and Russia, not the US. I have heard that NATO was trying to put missiles into the Ukraine which would be akin to Russia putting missiles in Cuba. If that is true then I would blame NATO for provoking this.
Well, Ukraine is no Christian country. Its Mission field. I have friends which have been there as missionaries. Also our church has some relationships to the Christians there.

This with the missiles is new to me. Because it is no NATO country, so before the war startet NATO weapons have nothing to search there.

I compare Putin with Trump because both are very concern to their own person. They both have no respect to other people. Both are good actors. Both manupulate people with their words.

I dont know any other US president who was such selfloving then Trump.

I read that some are saying I would hate Trump that is not true. I would not vote Him, nor I would vote Biden. I realy cant understand why the rep select Him as kandidate. Many people could not understand it. Finaly i must say it was Gods choice.
So as it is now with Biden. And all other rulers in this world. Its endtime and we should not expect God loving rulers, the opposit.
In germany we have now the most Godless government since Hitler.
 

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When Trump-bashing is in vogue, you can compare Trump to Putin, Stalin, Hitler, and Mussolini. Is that not what the Trump-haters have been doing all along? When Trump told the Germans to avoid getting cozy with Putin, they laughed to his face. Now they are forced to help Ukraine, or be shamed by all the other Europeans.
I am not hating Trump! I only cant understand that Christians support Him.
 

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Just because a crooked court refused to see appealed evidence doesn't mean the evidence doesn't exist... but I'm fairly certain there's nobody left on this planet ignorant enough not to see and understand that... except, perhaps, American Socialists, AKA Democrats.
Putin is a billionaire so this isn't all that surprising really. Putin Faces Sanctions, but His Assets Remain an Enigma

Sanctions impact the citizens of the nation sanctioned. Not the rich and powerful controllers of the people.
Not even Putin's personal wealth is enough to rescue Russia's economy. Yes, the ordinary people suffer, but the economy will tank. Will Russians put up with a North Korea style economy, so bad that there is not enough to feed the people properly? North Koreans have never known prosperity. Russians have. Putin may yet rue the day that he went to war in Ukraine.
 

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At the time the haters didnt care who it was that ran against Trump , its only now that they are waking up to see the clueless leader they really have.
From what I could ascertain, Trump won because he was not Hilary Clinton.
 

Gideon300

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Thanks. I've been watching a You Tube channel called, "Back To Basics," and it's about some people who explore the wild shores of Australia. Stunningly beautiful country!
And an awful lot to explore..........