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Lanolin

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we are admittedly a 'peculiar people'

1 Peter 2:9

so I'd expect a certain amount of weirdness...I mean the speaking in tongues and quoting the Bible, thats actually what a lot of us do for fun....
 

Moses_Young

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To Judaize is to use the fleshly commands like cutting skin as a way to obey the law. Christ made that obsolete. Christ did not tell us to be disobedient.

The simple steps to live with Christ in your heart are simple--we are to handle sin (spiritual law explains what is sin) by repenting of sin, that means we want to be sin free. Then when we slip up and sin we are forgiven, that sin is forgotten and is no more.

No scripture disagrees with this, it is from Christ--not even the book of Galatians.
To be clear, you are talking about the law of love - the New Covenant in Christ. Don't forget that the law of Moses (the Old Covenant) included the requirement to cut away the useless skin, and Moses himself was nearly killed for disobeying it. But now, there can be no disobedience to this law of Moses, for those for whom it has been fulfilled by Christ.
 

Lanolin

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on singles forum we are discussing whether we are fruitcakes or fruit salad.

I think I go for the fruit salad.

if its too weird for you I cant really think of where you'll fit in really...most any fruit can go in salad except for maybe bananas as they go a bit mushy. But ...if you mash it up makes a great smoothie so...

I do believe nuts belong in the other separate forum in case people have allergies.
 
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"A higher plane," hehe
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I'd like to know who the MODs are here. Who's facilitating this public perpetual "Christian" discord?
Yep, it's the Wild West. So is the internet, society in general, oh-- and most Christian local churches too.

Though in the churches I've been to people are usually civil even if they disagree.
 

bekkilyn

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hmm would you accept..

Though you lie down among the sheepfolds,
you will be like the wings of a dove covered with silver,
and her feathers with yellow gold.
(Psalm 68:13)
therefore the sky is yellow, despite the 'traditions of men' i.e. NASA/democrats/calvinists/feminists?












lol i'm kidding, i'm kidding!!


:ROFL:

this post intentionally scores high on CC bingo
I'm definitely reading that verse in a different way now, especially since those of us in the know concerning doves in general know what that "silver and gold" on their feathers REALLY is...especially if they've been so unfortunate to perch on a branch beneath where other birds are sitting. :D
 

2ndTimothyGroup

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I'm definitely reading that verse in a different way now, especially since those of us in the know concerning doves in general know what that "silver and gold" on their feathers REALLY is...especially if they've been so unfortunate to perch on a branch beneath where other birds are sitting. :D
You two are smarter than me. I can't figure out what you're talking about. :)
 

oyster67

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Good point! At least there are still a number of Christians here... WE HAVEN'T BEEN CANCELLED YET!
I completely understand, but Jesus told us it would be that way. He was persecuted by His own. Godspeed, brother.
 
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JAPOV

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I completely understand, but Jesus told us it would be that way. He was persecuted by His own. Godspeed, brother.
That's kinda' my point...
I expect to be ridiculed and even cancelled on other sites because of my Christian views. But why HERE?

I honesty believe there are wolves in sheep's clothing here... and some have obviously been here a while!
 
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SophieT

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IMO this is part of the tower of Babel question

what were they doing?

it was led by Nimrod ((per tradition, i believe it's correct)) -- whose name means rebellion
they did it to make a name for themselves, contradicting God -- to praise themselves, rather than God, and to concentrate themselves, rather than go out into all the world
for this God threw their languages into confusion. that is perfect justice and wisdom, for what they did. for Nimrod's rebellion


it's humanism; celebrating human will over God's sovereignty -- which, human will is His sovereign gift

if that makes sense?
so from the beginning -- i can make the same argument about Cain and what he did -- man glorified himself instead of God. and even now, Babylon is spiritually present & even dominant among us, even in many parts of the visible church. placing glory in mankind rather than God; glorifying and emphasizing human will and effort above Him, and putting human ideas in front of God's thoughts and ways.


it is maybe kinda complex, but i agree with @JAPOV on those parts
I am still waiting to better understand what japov meant in his understanding

ie: it seems to me to be a condensed version of a certain comprehension on his part...I asked and he supplied Ecclesiastes...I quoted a favorite portion and he liked it

since then I have not thought about it

however I certainly have no problem conceptualizing the understanding of man stomping on the vineyard (putting it colloquially)

the vineyard being the world of God

we might come to the same conclusion from different viewpoints
 
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JAPOV

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I am still waiting to better understand what japov meant in his understanding

ie: it seems to me to be a condensed version of a certain comprehension on his part...I asked and he supplied Ecclesiastes...I quoted a favorite portion and he liked it

since then I have not thought about it

however I certainly have no problem conceptualizing the understanding of man stomping on the vineyard (putting it colloquially)

the vineyard being the world of God

we might come to the same conclusion from different viewpoints
Without preaching to the choir lol... I believe, as Christians, we all agree that God separated us for our own good. Our pride in self accomplishment was way out of control, same as Cain's pride.

Our slow but complete turning away from God has been epic. A side effect of being created in God's own image...?

Since Babbel, we've only been capable and prideful enough to challenge each other instead of God. However, a certain number of us Christians who are led by the Spirit are easily recognized and singled out by secular society.

So, why does it seem like we don't need any help from agnostics to separate ourselves? Here we are in the age of grace, and in full knowledge of the Spirit, still acting like God's rebellious children...

Shouldn't we be more inclined to find common ground between us despite our God given differences? Shouldn't that also apply to Men and women... and all the different races? Especially HERE? From the very beginning of the Bible God shows there are only two kinds of people in the world... Those who seek to serve God's will and those who simply roam the earth.

Shouldn't us Christians be more attuned to that difference than anyone?

God Himself separated us. So, doesn't it stand to reason that our differences still serve His will?

Does that make any sense? :unsure:
 

Lanolin

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Without preaching to the choir lol... I believe, as Christians, we all agree that God separated us for our own good. Our pride in self accomplishment was way out of control, same as Cain's pride.

Our slow but complete turning away from God has been epic. A side effect of being created in God's own image...?

Since Babbel, we've only been capable and prideful enough to challenge each other instead of God. However, a certain number of us Christians who are led by the Spirit are easily recognized and singled out by secular society.

So, why does it seem like we don't need any help from agnostics to separate ourselves? Here we are in the age of grace, and in full knowledge of the Spirit, still acting like God's rebellious children...

Shouldn't we be more inclined to find common ground between us despite our God given differences? Shouldn't that also apply to Men and women... and all the different races? Especially HERE? From the very beginning of the Bible God shows there are only two kinds of people in the world... Those who seek to serve God's will and those who simply roam the earth.

Shouldn't us Christians be more attuned to that difference than anyone?

God Himself separated us. So, doesn't it stand to reason that our differences still serve His will?

Does that make any sense? :unsure:
hmm this post not really

did someone heckle you on here just for being a christian? How rude.
why not forgive them their rudeness, ignorance or whatever. Surely thats just what we do. Because at aome point we habe all been rude or ignorant unless you are one of those rare people who is an absolute GENIUS. Most people mess up from time to time and tempers can be hard to control. Plus not everyone reads every single post, I sure dont! who has the time...!

If they dont receive you just shake the dust off your feet and move on. a way to do that is just start a new thread, or ignore that rude poster and just keep posting about the topic you'd like to talk about. Im sure at least one person can relate to what you are saying and you can have a decent discussion. It is not always realistic to expect every single person to agree with you all the time.

This is just basic forum ettiquette whether christian or otherwise.
 
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SophieT

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Without preaching to the choir lol... I believe, as Christians, we all agree that God separated us for our own good. Our pride in self accomplishment was way out of control, same as Cain's pride.

Our slow but complete turning away from God has been epic. A side effect of being created in God's own image...?

Since Babbel, we've only been capable and prideful enough to challenge each other instead of God. However, a certain number of us Christians who are led by the Spirit are easily recognized and singled out by secular society.

So, why does it seem like we don't need any help from agnostics to separate ourselves? Here we are in the age of grace, and in full knowledge of the Spirit, still acting like God's rebellious children...

Shouldn't we be more inclined to find common ground between us despite our God given differences? Shouldn't that also apply to Men and women... and all the different races? Especially HERE? From the very beginning of the Bible God shows there are only two kinds of people in the world... Those who seek to serve God's will and those who simply roam the earth.

Shouldn't us Christians be more attuned to that difference than anyone?

God Himself separated us. So, doesn't it stand to reason that our differences still serve His will?

Does that make any sense? :unsure:
as someone once said, fasten your seatbelts. it's going to be a bumpy ride
 
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JAPOV

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hmm this post not really

did someone heckle you on here just for being a christian? How rude.
why not forgive them their rudeness, ignorance or whatever. Surely thats just what we do. Because at aome point we habe all been rude or ignorant unless you are one of those rare people who is an absolute GENIUS. Most people mess up from time to time and tempers can be hard to control. Plus not everyone reads every single post, I sure dont! who has the time...!

If they dont receive you just shake the dust off your feet and move on. a way to do that is just start a new thread, or ignore that rude poster and just keep posting about the topic you'd like to talk about. Im sure at least one person can relate to what you are saying and you can have a decent discussion. It is not always realistic to expect every single person to agree with you all the time.

This is just basic forum ettiquette whether christian or otherwise.
Whatever you say :rolleyes:
 

Blik

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Some people just like to argue!
I absolutely love what some people call argument. It takes a team working together to find the truth--if we never learn how we are interpreting scripture wrong we will never learn the truth. Also, it makes us check our beliefs carefully with scripture.

When my kids were teens and had to make so many life decisions, we would set up debates. Each teen was given five minutes to defend their point. Then they switched, and the person defending the point was asked to give five minutes debating for that point, It helped my kids see clearly the decisions they were making.
 
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Oblio

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A healthy debate, sure, where the participants are open to actually learning something. But there are too many who will argue that a leopard doesn't have spots.