Is the demon allowed by God to oppress the christian in this scripture 1 peter 5:8

In this scripture 1Peter 5:8 as you so wonderfully posted. Picture a lion searching for prey,they do not go after any prey,they hunt prey! Looking for the weakest among the group,so they have the least amount of work to capture it. Can weak believers be among the prey? Sure!

And if weak enough they can become ensnared as well! Fine scripture! When I was like a roaring lion before Jesus saved me,and like the roaring lion I was boastful looking to strike fear among those who dared get to close to me. And then take advantage of those who were weak minded. Before one can through our Jesus defeat the enemy one must know thy enemy!!!

( John 10:10 and John 8:44 this is our enemy's nature. I am so thankful for our Jesus!! Now through Holy Spirit the Lord has granted me victory over the enemy! And you have this same victory,look not to become the prey,but rather look to save the prey before they become ensnared!( 2 Cor 2:14!!)

Peter was not the enemy. He stated that he would be willing to die for Christ. Is that not what we all claim we would do? Are we not willing to die with and for Christ? Peter then demonstrates his love for Christ by literally defending Him. Peter laid his life on the line, fully prepared to die for Christ.

John 15:13 NKJV - "Greater love has no one than this, than to lay down one's life for his friends."

1 John 3:16 NKJV - "By this we know love, because He laid down His life for us. And we also ought to lay down [our] lives for the brethren."

This thread is deeply concerning to me, for Peter should melt our hearts for His defense of Christ, yet we have incredibly turned him into the Devil.

Actually, this is making me angry. The Devil isn't willing to die for anyone. Good grief.

@timot
i will and i have many times considered whay your saying, however there is no demoniazation of peter from me,

you seem to be missing the point im making, i really havent got time to explain in full at the moment but i will how ever explain in full soon.

as well may i remind you the bible says satan entered Judas.

Did God harden the king of egypts heart to make him evil i think not.

could an evil spirit harden a person heart to make them evil, i believe so and i can show you in scripture how, when i have to stop taking phone calls and have more time i will give your reply a bit more time, untell then, peace

We seem to possess different Bibles that say different things.

Pharoah:

Romans 9:17 NLT - 17 For the Scriptures say that God told Pharaoh, "I have appointed you for the very purpose of displaying my power in you and to spread my fame throughout the earth."

If Satan has the power to harden hearts, he would have done it to Job, for Satan spoke with certainty that Job would curse God. God is in control of hearts, not Satan.

You don't need to reply to me. I am thoroughly disgusted with this thread.

i would recommend this scripture , because your in a public study room, not a public debate room.

did you join this thread to study or debate?


Colossians 1:12

12 giving thanks to the Father who has qualified us to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in the light.

yes i do believe so that our enemy does take advantage of the week, there are many examples of how mature christians should build those week up in the faith. but there is also many examples of how the enemy takes advantage of those who are blind. there is also many examples in fact hundreds of examples where Jesus warns people who are blind to the ways of our advasary,

This isn't going to work on me. I'm not debating; it seems that you are. This concept with the Devil disguising himself as the physical flesh of Peter is a total assertion. I will say it again . . . Peter fought for Christ and was willing to die for Him and he proved it in his actions. The Devil would never do such a thing, for his actions would be self-defeating. To not see this causes me tremendous concern for you.

You wrote:
"The answer is it was not Peter who Jesus was talking to it was Satan in disguise, who had took up the appearance of Peter."

There is no OT prophesy that predicts or even indicates this wild notion, nor is there any mention of it, anywhere, from the other New Testament writers, primarily that of Paul.

Revelation 22:18 NKJV - "For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book . . ."

I would be shaking in my boots if I were you. I have not only felt the Lord's Holy Terror, but I have also felt the Raw, Almighty Power of God. I have felt the Power that was responsible for parting the "Red Sea" and the Jordan river twice. I would be quaking in my boots.

I'm making a stand. What you are doing is totally adding to the Word of God and it is clearly and fundamentally wrong.

Satan knows that he is already a defeated foe and his days are numbered. He is only a liar. Just the presence of true believers in Christ Jesus is what currently restrains him. Despite the fact that this world is governed by evil in high places, (Liars), Satan will not be given full power and authority over the Earth until we are gone.

"The Devil made me do it!", is a poor excuse. There's plenty enough treachery and sin in Mankind to make the Devil blush, so focus on Christ and be accountable for YOURSELF!

I believe you'll see how the Father uses demons in the following:
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The Parable of the Unforgiving Servant
21 Then Peter came up and said to him, “Lord, how often ywill my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? zAs many as seven times?” 22 Jesus said to him, “I do not say to you seven times, but seventy-seven times.

23 “Therefore the kingdom of heaven may be compared to a king who wished ato settle accounts with his servants.7 24 When he began to settle, one was brought to him who owed him bten thousand ctalents.8 25 dAnd since he could not pay, his master ordered him eto be sold, with his wife and fchildren and all that he had, and payment to be made. 26 So the servant9 gfell on his knees, imploring him, ‘Have patience with me, and I will pay you everything.’ 27 And out of pity for him, the master of that servant released him and dforgave him the debt. 28 But when that same servant went out, he found one of his fellow servants who owed him a hundred hdenarii,10 and seizing him, he began to choke him, saying, ‘Pay what you owe.’ 29 So his fellow servant fell down and pleaded with him, ‘Have patience with me, and I will pay you.’ 30 He refused and went and put him in prison until he should pay the debt. 31 When his fellow servants saw what had taken place, they were greatly distressed, and they went and reported to their master all that had taken place. 32 Then his master summoned him and said to him, ‘You wicked servant! I forgave you all that debt because you pleaded with me. 33 iAnd should not you have had mercy on your fellow servant, as I had mercy on you?’ 34 jAnd in anger his master delivered him to the jailers,11 kuntil he should pay all his debt. 35 lSo also my heavenly Father will do to every one of you, if you do not forgive your brother mfrom your heart.” - Mathew 21:35 ESV

This is vastly different from what the OP is asserting, which is that Satan has the power to literally duplicate the flesh of humans; in this case, Peter. The OP is stating that Satan created an exact replica of Peter, including scars, hair, sound of voice . . . everything about Satan looked, acted, and sounded just like Peter . . . possibly even smelling like Peter. The OP is asserting that there were two "Peter's" walking the planet.

Would the real Peter please stand up!?

Satan does not have the Power to create. Only the Lord, Almighty has the ability to take the corners of nothing, and create something from nothing. Satan is not a manufacturer of flesh, nor anything physical.

Sir you have a lot to learn, satan can tak up the appearance of another creation and speak. which does not make him a creater it makes him a deceiver, and the bible also makes reference to him being the the great deceiver. satan took up the apearanc eof a snake and spoke. in another part of the bible satan was referenced as appearing as an angel of light. in other parts of the bible we see angels from heaven taking up the appearance of men.

I have witnessed first hand people being deceived by a demon taking up the appearance of a living person. and that person beleiving the lie and following the instructions the demon (denomic spirit) gave.

Once again please do not accuse me of being a false teacher or someone that adds to the word of God, when your understanding of why Jesus called peter satan is no more of an assertion than mine.

this is your quote and assertion of mathew 16:23.
this is just much an assertion of mathew 16:23 as mine is. if thats what you want to call it. however i feel my insertion is an interpretation where as you call it adding to the word of God. Why because you want to cause trouble. you came here to debate from the off. and you cant stand being told you have something to learn which you do.

your saying Jesus called peter satan because peter was not free from a curse or because peters heart was hardened. well sir that is just as much an assertion just like mine so please dont judge people by your own standards.

Secondly tim we both know your intensions was to make me look like a false teacher from your very first post you made in this thread. i hadnt even mentioned mathew 16:13 at that stage.

Sir i still dont think you have given a reasonable explanation as why Jesus called peter satan, but sir your not the only one because not one single person has.

I told you sir only Jesus would know who satan was and that must mean that mathew 16:13 was not peter it was actualy satan. i then told you sir that the witness of mathew 16:13 must have not noticed. where as Jesus did. Jesus would not say get away satan if he was not there. would he. and there is no way he would call peter satan who was to be his rock. now sir suggest you take this explanation as a possible interpretation and an open invitation to study this meaning, and then i may be willing to study your interpratation of mathew 16:23, but untill then may i suggest you retract your attitude and pray. because your attiude is one of pride.

you have also suggested i was demonizing peter, when actualy sir i am defending peter. the person Whom Jesus made the rock on whom he would build our church, i hardly call that a satan do you ?.

all youve done is spew one insult after the next towards me, i suggest you get over your pride sir and learn to learn. i will pray for your oppression and hope you take notice of the scripture i posted earlier, God bless you.

There are corrupt humans, genetic hybrids, the bodiless spirits of these hybrids, and fallen angel "super scientists" working together for their master's end, the one-world government. There are 2 kingdoms in this world...God's and Satan's. Both have organized armies.
For the individual believe, the battle begins with one's own personal warfare. Forgiveness is a key in winning this battle.

have you ever thought you could be wrong about that. Or even questioned about your point of view here.

So many times I hear this approach come up and even from mature Christians, none of you probably have much experience about what the power of death and an evil spirit can do to a fragile human mind over time. Because if you did I don't think you would be so quick to blame a person for there own actions. Honestly. You need to ask the question if the power of death held by Satan a evil demonic being that can destroy the spirit of all mankind that was created by God. Then can the power of death cause a person to go wrong. Please 🙏

As the enemy has limited resources, He is strategic in His use of them. Which explains why not everyone is oppressed. There are other factors also.

can you speak for everyone. Because my research shows not everyone knows they are oppressed.

This is not about a demon but the king of demons -- the prince of the power of the air. And it is not about oppression but attacks in order to destroy Christians. Yes God does all Satan and his demons to attack Christians, and Job is the clearest example of a huge Satanic attack. Attacks can take various forms, and God is telling us to be on the lookout and also resist the devil.

On the other hand, we walk through a shallow, warm pond, spiritually, and anyone who has ever walked through this type of pond in the physical knows you get bloodsuckers. So...you don't panic, you just get rid of them.

are you sure the demons don't all oppress Christian the same way the king of demons would, ?.. because the scriptures says many Christians are suffering the same suffering all around the world. Have you asked the question why is death everywhere.

I have to be Frank here I hope I don't offend I am sick about taking long drawn out debates so I'm just going to cut to chase and get to the point. Why is death everywhere.

What I do is take the Scripture as it is, and I try not to make assumptions or unwarranted conclusions about what it does not say.

1 Peter 5:8 says "the devil" (singular) prowls around, looking for someone to devour." That says to me that it is discussing one, the devil, who in and of himself only is doing this "prowling". The verse doesn't mention demons, and it doesn't say anything about the activity of demons, whether they do similarly or not.

Once we establish and agree on what the text actually says, then we can discuss what it might mean.

that might work in the jungle but it's a bit more complex with a energy vampire who sucks all the energy out of you mentality and physically. After none stop abuse every minute of the day 24/7 7 days a week,.I don't suppose you've experience that, or even contemplated what a energy vampire is..