No kissing/hand holding before marriage?

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DeeGee

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GoodRanger said:
Thank you for the heads up. I’ll keep your advice in mind.

I’ve experienced longstanding problems related to relationships and socialization in general. The only way I’m ever going to find a woman for marriage is with God’s help; I can’t do it on my own because of my issues.

One day a long time ago, I asked God who is my wife. I figured God knows everything, including all events that have happened, are happening, and will happen. He is an infinite being, so surely he can foresee who I will marry.

He showed me images of my wife. In fact, he has shown me images of the exact same girl for years now. She is pretty, and I really like her appearance. She is also from another country outside of the US.

Later I found out that I will meet her because God picked her out for me, not because I happen to travel to her country and meet her through a random series of events. In other words, God agreed to arrange a marriage for me. I believe he decided to do this favor for me because I have so many problems with finding someone, and he feels sorry for my inability to date or have normal relations with women. God also admires my profound Christian faith, which is very strong, so naturally he finds me worthy of granting a great favor.

I’m still not so sure I need a wedding and government document that recognizes our life partnership in order to engage in adult relations. To be honest, I don’t really want a wedding but instead prefer to register our marriage in a courthouse without a ceremony. Weddings seem like a vanity fest, at least in my opinion, and I don’t think I need one. If I love her and know she is my life partner (God arranged the marriage and cannot be wrong here), why would I need a wedding ceremony to confirm that? In my opinion, feelings and bonds that last for life are what matters most and what bind a husband to a wife, not the ceremony stuff.
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The wedding ceremony and feast were very important to Jesus, at least. You should consider that. It is the act of commitment, somewhat like the act of committing one's life to Jesus, that is the key. A big wedding needed? Not at all. An exchange of vows, officially, unashamedly? I would say, definitely, based on the example of Christ stating that His church is His Bride. Marriage must be about more than "feelings," because they could well change on any given day. You may want to study how Christ views His Bride in the New Testament.
 
GiveThanks

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KrisWampler said:
This seems to be relatively rare, but is there any biblical basis for this? Seems more like an overreaction. One girl who told me this had slept with a man outside of marriage. So it seems like she took a 180 degree turn to the other extreme. In other words, she was using this as a response to what she did.
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When a man says, "why are you being so chaste? Its not as if you are a virgin." What he really means is the woman is damaged goods and she should stop pretending otherwise.

KrisWampler said:
Each to their own, but honestly, it seems like a huge red flag and probably indicative of more serious underlying issues. I'm not aware of anything in the Bible that condones much less requires this.
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A man wants to kiss and hold hands yet he hasnt even proposed as yet is a hugh red flag. He is an idler and a waste of time.

Not everyone can engage in kissing and holding hands and it not lead to other things, and so its best to not do so.

Be wise as serpents and harmless as doves, is what the good book says. Its also unwise to spend the night at your date's house.

If you cant understand that, then you are naive or have ulterior motives.
 
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I believe holding hands and hugging is the beginning of a great relationship as well as good open chats
 
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"A higher plane," hehe
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seoulsearch said:
I have always been taught that this is indeed what the Bible teaches -- that if you are ever to have sexual relations at all, you must marry one person and it must be with only that person for the rest of your life.

Could you please clarify your perspective here?

Are you saying that your view is that this is NOT what the Bible teaches and that it somehow supports having sex with multiple people, both outside and in addition (adultery) to marriage?

I'm not saying this to criticize; I'm just wondering if this is really what you're trying to say and how you came to that conclusion.

Surely you don't think the examples you gave are somehow a way of endorsing sex with multiple partners?
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This one is pretty slimy. He puts out a wall of text that looks pretty Biblically sound, then twists things just enough to turn the whole on its head. Exactly like Satan in the Scriptures.

And this one is pretty open about the demonic influences in his life in many other posts here on CC.

I have been here on CC for only a couple days. I have encountered several people who intentionally sow discord and try to dispute clear Biblical doctrines that true believers have held to for millennia. And I have encountered a couple people, GoodRanger being one of them, who are clearly experiencing strong demonic influences in their lives.

In GoodRanger's case, by his own admission he is possessed by demons.
 
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