TONGUES false teaching.

Technically this is Christian chat. Christian chat doesnt always have to be biblical. People probably came here because they thought Christian chat is positive decent chat.

actually, this Thread is in what is called the bible discussion forum

There are many other chat forums within our site with many different topics from food to prayer and teen etc..

This thread is called Bible Discussion Forum Asking one to support their point biblically is what we do in this forum.

LOL, not one Biblical text only your false narrative. Do you even know what the empowering of the Holy Spirit is? I don't think you are knowing what you are talking about.

The idea of your experience and 25 years as you say in Pentacostel denominations and was deceived I find to be untruthful.

My experience has been longer and nothing of what you have said, however, foolishness is in all churches, you should have been taught that. There are no perfect churches because there are no perfect people.

The word of God is the authority on the topic, not yours or my experiences. You also are trying to validate the supernatural with human reasoning and secular humanism.


as you said :

"What needs to happen is for someone with authentic Biblical tongues to make a video of them speaking in tongues, and let it be examined by linguists who have the ability to decode the message. "


Laughing hard right now! I love how you state you were deceived yet you are going to try and have aman who knows languages to decode the Holy Spirit's Gifts? You can't disprove the gift with the word of God? As many of you have said using 1cor 13:8-10 which was debunked.

NOW you are using witch doctors to decode The Holy Spirit? Then claim Penacostels are devil's and deceived.

The Book of Acts and Mark 16, and 1cor 12 through 14 chapters and John chapter 14-16

from The Lord Jesus, Peter, Paul and even Old Testament Prophets. IN addition to the recorded working of the Spirit of God Known as the Holy Spirit when he came upon prophets, judges, kings, and priests, and rulers.
All were used by the Holy Spirit when HE came upon them and as He does today because Jesus said HE would be with US and IN us. John 14 and 15 chapters.

You are still deceived, and secular humanism and linguist and your voodoo doctors with not change that.

Maybe if you would have explained it I could have given my view. That's all any of us here can do is give our views. I can only give my view on what you asked of and what view is better than the next view? The bible is just a bunch of views that a actual "human being" wrote not God himself for Christ sake🤦🤦

What exactly does inspired by God mean? I know only Satan dictates --- Book of Mormon, Unrantia Book, Koran, etc.,

Whoa!! Back that horse waaay up! The Bible is the inspired Word of God! It isn't man's opinions. Men wrote under inspiration and the leading of God. If all we have are mens opinions then we have no hope of heaven and the Bible is no different than reading a People's magazine. Sorry, you're seriously in error here.

2 Tim. All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,

Over 400 times the Bible says "thus saith the Lord".

Prov. 30 Every word of God proves true

Is. 55
so shall my word be that goes out from my mouth;
it shall not return to me empty,
but sit shall accomplish that which I purpose

So with the help of the Holy Spirit, inspired men wrote the Word of God. Not mens opinions.

Are you speaking to me? If so, could you explain how you believe the Bible was written?

Inspiration is not dictation. Think of it more of being filled with the Spirit. I like to hear the understandings of all.

LOL FYI many denied the miracles of Jesus as there were done right in front of them so please read your Bible guy,

Jesus even said to them John 14:11

Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father in Me, or else believe Me for the sake of the works themselves.

YES, Miracles were and are done which are obvious to all YET those today Deny they even happen. Your Point and request are meaningless. We nor I have to jump to Prove the Miraculous they happen if you see them or not. You have your own faith to live validate yours, For me, it is already done and settled. God heals today and still does the Miraculous and the gifts of the Holy Spirit are all still being used including tongues even if you don't see it. Yes those who try and validate tongues through a linguist which is a secular humanism approach to explain the supernature Gifts of the Holy Spirit which is unbiblical and just like a witch doctor.

I would add: through the Holy Spirit.

When Jesus told the pharisees that they should believe His works, He was talking about the obvious miracles He was performing, that is, lame people healed, blind people seeing, deaf people hearing, dead people coming to life. That's a vast difference from what you practice day to day. If what you had was miraculous, it would be a very easy thing to demonstrate. But what I get is that you are afraid that your fig leaves will show that you're really naked in that respect.

It has been proven beyond doubt (for those with an open mind and open heart to the truth) that modern tongues (for the most part) is not miraculous, anyone can do it, it has no language structure, and insufficient vocabulary to convey any intelligible message. So those doing it are deceived, and are taking the Lord's name in vain when they claim it's from God (albeit they are ignorant of that fact).

So if you really want to prove me wrong, then do as I ask, because it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out. It's a simple request, although it will take some time and effort. If you love your fellow Christians who need to be corrected, then you'll do whatever it takes. On the other hand, if you love only yourself, you'll continue to be hostile and slanderous.

I'm not asking you to prove you are the Christ, I already know you're not. So comparing what you do to the works of Christ and implying that I should believe you on account of the works you do is nonsense. It's ludicrous because the works you are doing (in this forum) is so far from Christlike, most people with any knowledge and spiritual maturity are shaking their heads. A Christlike work would be to repent from your hostility, and submit to doing what will obviously solve the problem of disunity among believers.

Everyone knows what a witch doctor is and what he does, so stop using exaggerative and slanderous language. Jesus said that out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks, and what you're showing in your words is evil, not good. You might think it's good, and you might think you have the Spirit of God, but I'm saying that what you're showing is a different spirit. The apostle Paul wrote that controversies are inevitable, to show who is approved of God and who is not. If you don't start acting like you're approved of God, no one is going to listen to anything you say.

So, as I spoke before, God does heal today, and some of those healings are well documented. But I've yet to see any so-called 'tongues' well documented. I'm asking people who have the gift to well document it, so that it's a clear testimony that God is in it. So far, everyone who has documented it has proven the opposite.

Can you understand that the other side (your side) needs an apologetic argument? It might be settled for you, but it's not for millions of Christians. If you want people to believe that what you do is of God, then shouldn't you make that effort? But if not, then why are you posting in this forum, except just to argue in an endless debate, which the apostle Paul warned Timothy about?

If you continue in the same vein that you're going, the only reasonable conclusion anyone can make is that you fear exposure. Why don't you prove me wrong in this matter, and do what I ask?

I would add: through the Holy Spirit.

Do you believe the Scripture/Bible is God's word for you to follow???

Is there any other answer? God gave us his Word, why would He not expect us to follow it?

Maybe if you would have explained it I could have given my view. That's all any of us here can do is give our views. I can only give my view on what you asked of and what view is better than the next view? The bible is just a bunch of views that a actual "human being" wrote not God himself for Christ sake🤦🤦

When Jesus told the pharisees that they should believe His works, He was talking about the obvious miracles He was performing, that is, lame people healed, blind people seeing, deaf people hearing, dead people coming to life. That's a vast difference from what you practice day to day. If what you had was miraculous, it would be a very easy thing to demonstrate. But what I get is that you are afraid that your fig leaves will show that you're really naked in that respect.

It has been proven beyond doubt (for those with an open mind and open heart to the truth) that modern tongues (for the most part) is not miraculous, anyone can do it, it has no language structure, and insufficient vocabulary to convey any intelligible message. So those doing it are deceived, and are taking the Lord's name in vain when they claim it's from God (albeit they are ignorant of that fact).

So if you really want to prove me wrong, then do as I ask, because it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out. It's a simple request, although it will take some time and effort. If you love your fellow Christians who need to be corrected, then you'll do whatever it takes. On the other hand, if you love only yourself, you'll continue to be hostile and slanderous.

I'm not asking you to prove you are the Christ, I already know you're not. So comparing what you do to the works of Christ and implying that I should believe you on account of the works you do is nonsense. It's ludicrous because the works you are doing (in this forum) is so far from Christlike, most people with any knowledge and spiritual maturity are shaking their heads. A Christlike work would be to repent from your hostility, and submit to doing what will obviously solve the problem of disunity among believers.

Everyone knows what a witch doctor is and what he does, so stop using exaggerative and slanderous language. Jesus said that out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks, and what you're showing in your words is evil, not good. You might think it's good, and you might think you have the Spirit of God, but I'm saying that what you're showing is a different spirit. The apostle Paul wrote that controversies are inevitable, to show who is approved of God and who is not. If you don't start acting like you're approved of God, no one is going to listen to anything you say.

So, as I spoke before, God does heal today, and some of those healings are well documented. But I've yet to see any so-called 'tongues' well documented. I'm asking people who have the gift to well document it, so that it's a clear testimony that God is in it. So far, everyone who has documented it has proven the opposite.

Can you understand that the other side (your side) needs an apologetic argument? It might be settled for you, but it's not for millions of Christians. If you want people to believe that what you do is of God, then shouldn't you make that effort? But if not, then why are you posting in this forum, except just to argue in an endless debate, which the apostle Paul warned Timothy about?

If you continue in the same vein that you're going, the only reasonable conclusion anyone can make is that you fear exposure. Why don't you prove me wrong in this matter, and do what I ask?

When Jesus told the pharisees that they should believe His works, He was talking about the obvious miracles He was performing, that is, lame people healed, blind people seeing, deaf people hearing, dead people coming to life. That's a vast difference from what you practice day to day. If what you had was miraculous, it would be a very easy thing to demonstrate. But what I get is that you are afraid that your fig leaves will show that you're really naked in that respect.

It has been proven beyond doubt (for those with an open mind and open heart to the truth) that modern tongues (for the most part) is not miraculous, anyone can do it, it has no language structure, and insufficient vocabulary to convey any intelligible message. So those doing it are deceived, and are taking the Lord's name in vain when they claim it's from God (albeit they are ignorant of that fact).

So if you really want to prove me wrong, then do as I ask, because it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out. It's a simple request, although it will take some time and effort. If you love your fellow Christians who need to be corrected, then you'll do whatever it takes. On the other hand, if you love only yourself, you'll continue to be hostile and slanderous.

I'm not asking you to prove you are the Christ, I already know you're not. So comparing what you do to the works of Christ and implying that I should believe you on account of the works you do is nonsense. It's ludicrous because the works you are doing (in this forum) is so far from Christlike, most people with any knowledge and spiritual maturity are shaking their heads. A Christlike work would be to repent from your hostility, and submit to doing what will obviously solve the problem of disunity among believers.

Everyone knows what a witch doctor is and what he does, so stop using exaggerative and slanderous language. Jesus said that out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks, and what you're showing in your words is evil, not good. You might think it's good, and you might think you have the Spirit of God, but I'm saying that what you're showing is a different spirit. The apostle Paul wrote that controversies are inevitable, to show who is approved of God and who is not. If you don't start acting like you're approved of God, no one is going to listen to anything you say.

So, as I spoke before, God does heal today, and some of those healings are well documented. But I've yet to see any so-called 'tongues' well documented. I'm asking people who have the gift to well document it, so that it's a clear testimony that God is in it. So far, everyone who has documented it has proven the opposite.

Can you understand that the other side (your side) needs an apologetic argument? It might be settled for you, but it's not for millions of Christians. If you want people to believe that what you do is of God, then shouldn't you make that effort? But if not, then why are you posting in this forum, except just to argue in an endless debate, which the apostle Paul warned Timothy about?

If you continue in the same vein that you're going, the only reasonable conclusion anyone can make is that you fear exposure. Why don't you prove me wrong in this matter, and do what I ask?