Survey Poll: Will you take the Covid 19 Vaccine

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Will you take the Covid 19 Vaccine if it is considered safe and effective?

  • Yes

    Votes: 35 21.7%
  • Never

    Votes: 98 60.9%
  • I will wait a year or more to see what happens with people who take it.

    Votes: 28 17.4%

  • Total voters
    161

JohnDB

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Ok, well I'll be waiting for you to educate me with all your knowledge. One thing I would specifically like to talk about is the "spike protein."
Not now with that kind of attitude...

Go back and just quote your political hacks
 

TruthSeekerJG

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Not now with that kind of attitude...

Go back and just quote your political hacks
For some reason this doesn’t surprise me. You have yet to answer any of my questions, and still persist that I’m the one at fault with no basis. Accused me for murder, maiming, lying, and now attitude. Character assassination, instead of dialogue and reasoning. Looked in the mirror lately?

Blessings and hope the best for you.
 

ZNP

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For some reason this doesn’t surprise me. You have yet to answer any of my questions, and still persist that I’m the one at fault with no basis. Accused me for murder, maiming, lying, and now attitude. Character assassination, instead of dialogue and reasoning. Looked in the mirror lately?

Blessings and hope the best for you.
I think he was hoping that when he told you he knew better than you that you would hang your head and walk away.
 

TruthSeekerJG

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I think he was hoping that when he told you he knew better than you that you would hang your head and walk away.
I guess so, but I don’t think my name suggests hanging my head, tucking my tail between my legs, and running. I do this for the sake of Truth by reasoning, which is Biblical. By the Grace of God of course because I can’t do anything without Him and all glory goes to Him!
 

ZNP

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I guess so, but I don’t think my name suggests hanging my head, tucking my tail between my legs, and running. I do this for the sake of Truth by reasoning, which is Biblical. By the Grace of God of course because I can’t do anything without Him and all glory goes to Him!
There is another problem as well, many doctors, nurses and researchers were afraid to say anything because they could lose their job, that is changing and more and more as they come forward more are becoming emboldened. So those who were bold to say the party line six months ago no longer are. It may be that these friends of his will not go on the record.
 

Aidan1

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"But realy I do not understand to count vaccienes as evil and expression of sin.

Answer: Once we step outside of belief in God and His guidelines, even commandments, and then start believing in man as the solution, then yes! I would also like to know every single ingredient within that concoction to make sure it is naturally derived.

"So you realy believe healthy food, vitamins and herbs can protect you from Tetanus, scabies, Hepatitis, pocks and all the nice virus."

Answer: Yes I do, how else have we been able to survive before vaccines were rolled out? Hygiene, Nutrition, and most of all Trusting in God. Prayer. Except, if we doubt, then of course it's not going to work. I simply believe His Word and His instructions. Even the laying of hands from the elders, getting anointed by oil, and praying.

"Healthy food is expensive."

Answer: Not as expensive as eating out all the time and not necessarily knowing what exactly is in our food. It's actually pretty cheap to buy our food at the grocery store and make it ourselves. What about farmers markets as well. There's ways of being able to eat cheap and healthy. Many ways to be frugal.

"The people would blame the governments for not protecting them."

Answer: Why are we looking up to our government to protect us instead of God? Our government should be a representation of the True God of the Bible and unfortunately it's godless and more humanistic based. What about the scientists? What are they basing their views on, Creation and God, or evolution? If it's the latter than I don't really care to be honest because they will never fully be able to come to true science.

In my eyes, the Pandemie makes a step in direction to create facilities which are will be used that it can be come real what is written in rev.13, but the vaccine itself is not evil and makes not that Christians fall away from God for to worship the antichrist. As some here want to make us believe.

Answer: This vaccine probably isn't the mark of the beast, but the way they keep conditioning us to just trust the government and so-called experts as our savior to chaos, such as, this "plan"demic is pretty alarming. The way they are making this political in order to strip our rights away is alarming. They also didn't all of a sudden think this up recently, instead this has been in the works for many years! The pace that they are doing this is also pretty eye opening because they are making it to the point where we won't buy, sell, or trade, even travel without proof of a "vaccination."

What if vaccinations were the slow conditioning until we got to this point? Especially since so many are convinced that that's the only way immunity works. So of course the media is conditioning us to just go along with them, including condemning those that are against it, even as to go as far as to blame us. There also setting it up that those who take the vaccination are the ones that get the privileges. Straight up conditioning.
In November 2021 12895740 (3,9%) people in the USA had no work. You will tell me that this people have enough money to by fresh, healthy food? You have been in the slums of this world? These prople have enough money to by fresh, healthy food? You have been in India and Africa and find out that all this people have enough money to buy fresh, healthy food in the grocery and farmshops?
Or do you speak only from yourself?
 

TruthSeekerJG

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In November 2021 12895740 (3,9%) people in the USA had no work. You will tell me that this people have enough money to by fresh, healthy food? You have been in the slums of this world? These prople have enough money to by fresh, healthy food? You have been in India and Africa and find out that all this people have enough money to buy fresh, healthy food in the grocery and farmshops?
Or do you speak only from yourself?
So you do know that many people lied in order NOT to work because they were making more off of unemployment versus working? Furthering our dependency on the government.

I don’t think shutting down the worlds economy was a wise decision based on a 98-99% survival rate. Including printing money out of thin air and giving it to the people through multiple stimulus checks, which in reality causes hyper inflation, devaluing the dollar, furthering our nations debt, raising the cost of production and transportation, which in turn raises the prices for goods. Why do you think everything is getting expensive? Oh wait, let’s raise minimum wage…. If we do that then we have to raise the prices in everything still furthering the economical chaos.

I’m specifically talking about this nation and not 3rd world countries, which of course they don’t have the resources as we do as far as productions concern. You think shutting down the economy was a smart decision? Personally would rather take my chances of dying then to give into fear. Many small business owners were put out of business, except for multimillion dollar corporations that want to monopolize.

Yes, I’m speaking from personal experience from not making much money myself and barely scraping by to make it!! Instead of going out and spending an average of $20-50 per day just to eat out. In fact one of my paychecks would only be enough to just pay for groceries, bills, gas. Working full time hard labor. Also grew up in poverty where my Mom would work her butt off all day and night while I stayed at grandmas where I can eat!

I also disagree with opening the borders and letting illegal immigrants into our country putting Americans (black, white, hispanic, etc) out of work for cheap labor. Believe me, I worked with them in the construction business, no social security, paperwork, and can’t even speak English. Thousands coming across the border in the morning, and thousands going back after the day is over. Not hating on them because they are good hardworking people (not all, but some), but I am against the politicians that do this in order to just receive votes, hook them on welfare life support, which in turn comes out of hard working citizens pay. They also know exactly which loopholes to take in order to take advantage of the system. Who gets to pay for that?! US!!

Speaking of Grandma earlier, she came across legally, started a flower business from scratch. How do you think her and many others that went through the correct procedures to get here would think?

We can clearly see that they are trying to cut out the middle class and lowering us down into poverty while they usher in new slaves that will be dependent on the government. What other nation just opens there borders without proper vetting?
 

TruthSeekerJG

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So you do know that many people lied in order NOT to work because they were making more off of unemployment versus working? Furthering our dependency on the government.

I don’t think shutting down the worlds economy was a wise decision based on a 98-99% survival rate. Including printing money out of thin air and giving it to the people through multiple stimulus checks, which in reality causes hyper inflation, devaluing the dollar, furthering our nations debt, raising the cost of production and transportation, which in turn raises the prices for goods. Why do you think everything is getting expensive? Oh wait, let’s raise minimum wage…. If we do that then we have to raise the prices in everything still furthering the economical chaos.

I’m specifically talking about this nation and not 3rd world countries, which of course they don’t have the resources as we do as far as productions concern. You think shutting down the economy was a smart decision? Personally would rather take my chances of dying then to give into fear. Many small business owners were put out of business, except for multimillion dollar corporations that want to monopolize.

Yes, I’m speaking from personal experience from not making much money myself and barely scraping by to make it!! Instead of going out and spending an average of $20-50 per day just to eat out. In fact one of my paychecks would only be enough to just pay for groceries, bills, gas. Working full time hard labor. Also grew up in poverty where my Mom would work her butt off all day and night while I stayed at grandmas where I can eat!

I also disagree with opening the borders and letting illegal immigrants into our country putting Americans (black, white, hispanic, etc) out of work for cheap labor. Believe me, I worked with them in the construction business, no social security, paperwork, and can’t even speak English. Thousands coming across the border in the morning, and thousands going back after the day is over. Not hating on them because they are good hardworking people (not all, but some), but I am against the politicians that do this in order to just receive votes, hook them on welfare life support, which in turn comes out of hard working citizens pay. They also know exactly which loopholes to take in order to take advantage of the system. Who gets to pay for that?! US!!

Speaking of Grandma earlier, she came across legally, started a flower business from scratch. How do you think her and many others that went through the correct procedures to get here would think?

We can clearly see that they are trying to cut out the middle class and lowering us down into poverty while they usher in new slaves that will be dependent on the government. What other nation just opens there borders without proper vetting?
If you want 100% honesty, I did eat out at the end of the day and get food for my Mom and I because she’s still working too. Especially being exhausted from working hard labor and not really wanting to cook, and she hardly cooked either. Definitely could have done better and prepped more. Not perfect that’s for sure.
 

Nehemiah6

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What other nation just opens there borders without proper vetting?
None. And what other nation allows close to two million illegal migrants to simply pour in and be exempt from all the requirements for legal citizens, and then gives them royal accommodations at taxpayer expense, while criminals and gangsters come in to commit horrendous crimes with no consequences? This is not only insanity but treason on an unprecedented scale. These are demons in control of America. And a young man from California was just heading to the White House to kill Biden, Fauci, Obama, etc. and was apprehended for reckless driving. But he also called them demons.
 

JohnDB

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For some reason this doesn’t surprise me. You have yet to answer any of my questions, and still persist that I’m the one at fault with no basis. Accused me for murder, maiming, lying, and now attitude. Character assassination, instead of dialogue and reasoning. Looked in the mirror lately?

Blessings and hope the best for you.
Because you are being a jerk...one whose mind is made up and dismissive of real science in favor of junk science that says what you want to hear.
 
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RichMan

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Facts are facts regardless of the websites. And Fake News is Fake News coming from the mainstream media.
I just find it odd that you and others reject the MSM and government info, as do I, but embrace website with questionable motives.
Just like the MSM and the government, these sites have their own agenda.
 
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RichMan

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This is what I do know. There is a virus present that makes some sick.
I know 5 people who have been sick. Two in their 60's, one 15, one 40, and one 37.
All were healthy and un-vaccinated.
Four were somewhat sick for a few days, but the 37 year old man almost died and is still suffering side effects from his illness.
This young man missed four weeks work. What is strange is that his wife was by his side, caring for him the entire time and never got sick.
 

JohnDB

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I just find it odd that you and others reject the MSM and government info, as do I, but embrace website with questionable motives.
Just like the MSM and the government, these sites have their own agenda.
There are a precious few publications and scientist who are still dedicated to publishing the truth without an agenda.
They just want to solve the "puzzle" of this virus and it's mutations and/or the mysteries of our immune system.

A lot of people simply don't like inconvenient truth...or truth that gets in the way of their agenda.

Vaccines, generally speaking, are a significant factor in ending a pandemic. Currently we have one that spans the whole world instead of a region. So the end is going to be long in the future.

Supply chain interruptions from lockdowns and severe outbreaks are going to hamper us at this point.

Certain vaccine formulas were known ahead of time to be problematic with GuillianBar syndrome...such as AstraZeneca, Sinopharm, J&J and Coronavac. Because of the financial gains and losses...a concerted disinformation campaign has been launched over vaccine inequality...in hope that people wouldn't take the more effective mRNA vaccines to increase supply.

Politics is supposed to stem from a government:
OF the people
BY the people
FOR the people

Currently we are missing two out of three. It isn't OF us or FOR us...they really don't care if you live or die anymore so long as they get wealthy in the end. And they assume that enough of us will survive to rule no matter what.
 

kinda

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Fight censorship and goto the website below and watch the video that Dr. Robert Malone posted on his Twitter account, before he was banned.


"Our alliance of independent Canadian doctors, scientists and health care practitioners is committed to providing top-quality and balanced evidence-based information to the Canadian public about COVID-19 so that hospitalizations can be reduced, lives saved, and our country safely restored as quickly as possible."

https://www.canadiancovidcarealliance.org/

" Rumble — INVENTOR OF mRNA TECHNOLOGY DR. ROBERT MALONE WAS RECENTLY LOCKED OUT OF TWITTER PERMANENTLY. IS IT BECAUSE OF THIS VIDEO OR BECAUSE HE WILL BE ON A 3 HR INTERVIEW THIS WEEK WITH JOE ROGAN? THIS MAY BE THE JENGA BLOCK THAT COLLAPSES THESE CRIMINAL SYNDICATE DEEPSTATE BIG PHARMA, BIG TECH POS 'SCARRATIVE' IN FRONT OF THEIR EYES.
HEY CABAL....CAN YA FEEL THE KRAKEN ICE UNDER YOUR FEET? "

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Ruby123

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Will Australia be the model for the rest of the world?!?!

https://www.prophecynewswatch.com/article.cfm?recent_news_id=5083

Australian Army Transferring COVID-Positive Cases & Contacts To Quarantine Camps

"The Australian army has begun forcibly removing residents in the Northern Territories to the Howard Springs quarantine camp located in Darwin, after nine new Covid-19 cases were identified in the community of Binjari. The move comes after hard lockdowns were instituted in the communities of both Binjari and nearby Rockhole on Saturday night.

"Residents of Binjari and Rockhole no longer have the five reasons to leave their homes," said Northern Territory chief minister, Michael Gunner, referring to the country's five allowable reasons to avoid lockdown (buying food and supplies, exercising for up to two hours, care or caregiving, work or education if it can't be done from home, and to get vaccinated at the nearest possible location).

"They can only leave for medical treatment, in an emergency, or as required by law.""
Some of what they say about Aus and covid conditions is true and some is twisted to create drama. Some of this is twisted.
 

kinda

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Some of what they say about Aus and covid conditions is true and some is twisted to create drama. Some of this is twisted.
What parts are true and what parts are twisted? Truthseeker mentioned Tom Horn and this was an article on his site, that looked interesting.