Survey Poll: Will you take the Covid 19 Vaccine

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Will you take the Covid 19 Vaccine if it is considered safe and effective?

  • Yes

    Votes: 35 21.7%
  • Never

    Votes: 98 60.9%
  • I will wait a year or more to see what happens with people who take it.

    Votes: 28 17.4%

  • Total voters
    161

ZNP

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Who are you referring to?
Gardenias with his poster about Polio, a vaccine that we didn't roll out to the rest of the world until about 50 years after we first started working on it, and the path was littered with poorly researched vaccines that were deadly and that they lied about and others that although they were effective they were poorly manufactured killing others.

The people raising the alarm about this vaccine are the most knowledgeable. They know that for every safe and effective vaccine there are at least two deadly ones, and that every vaccine regardless of deadly or not claims it is "safe and effective".
 

TruthSeekerJG

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Gardenias with his poster about Polio, a vaccine that we didn't roll out to the rest of the world until about 50 years after we first started working on it, and the path was littered with poorly researched vaccines that were deadly and that they lied about and others that although they were effective they were poorly manufactured killing others.
Crazy right?
 

ZNP

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What is crazy is that more people aren't speaking up to humiliate and repudiate these idiots on TV and the mainstream media which are spreading this fear porn.

You don't have to expect 100% of the people to be knowledgeable about vaccines, and it is reasonable to think that CBS or ABC or CNN would have vetted their dialogue.

Some people are lazy, some are fools, but it is the mainstream media which are evil.
 

TruthSeekerJG

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What is crazy is that more people aren't speaking up to humiliate and repudiate these idiots on TV and the mainstream media which are spreading this fear porn.

You don't have to expect 100% of the people to be knowledgeable about vaccines, and it is reasonable to think that CBS or ABC or CNN would have vetted their dialogue.

Some people are lazy, some are fools, but it is the mainstream media which are evil.
Agree! Thankfully there are alternative sources from which we can get our news, which filters out the political bias/propaganda. Youtube USED to be an awesome platform for freedom of speech, but now they're just like the mainstream by forcing their narrative of facts, while censoring and suppressing alternative points of views backed by evidence. Except, if there's a will there's a way, now there's other platforms or even specific websites we can go to, THANK GOD! Even though it will probably be a matter of time before they censor the whole net and force feed us this dung.

The truth will come out and it has! Unfortunately the mainstream is really good at spinning the truth once they find out the opposition is already onto them.
 

ZNP

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Agree! Thankfully there are alternative sources from which we can get our news, which filters out the political bias/propaganda. Youtube USED to be an awesome platform for freedom of speech, but now they're just like the mainstream by forcing their narrative of facts, while censoring and suppressing alternative points of views backed by evidence. Except, if there's a will there's a way, now there's other platforms or even specific websites we can go to, THANK GOD! Even though it will probably be a matter of time before they censor the whole net and force feed us this dung.

The truth will come out and it has! Unfortunately the mainstream is really good at spinning the truth once they find out the opposition is already onto them.
Every single podcast and news source has an agenda. That doesn't mean they aren't speaking the truth. Light overcomes darkness. Those sources that speak truth will rise in credibility and those that lie will become reviled.
 

TruthSeekerJG

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Every single podcast and news source has an agenda. That doesn't mean they aren't speaking the truth. Light overcomes darkness. Those sources that speak truth will rise in credibility and those that lie will become reviled.
Well as long as that agenda is leading the sheep on the right path by sharing the Good News of our Savior, while warning us of what's coming. Almost like a watchman! The problem that I keep noticing is a lot of us are still being sucked into the political paradigm of "left and right," which in reality they are of the same coin to push the world agenda. They woo us into agreeing with their policies, but at the same time deceiving us. That is how we as a Nation have gotten to this point! I would research how our founding fathers really were. One question if you do, Did they really believe in Jesus and His Deity? A good start would be with Thomas Jefferson and his version of what the bible said.
 

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"Fear which i see in antivax believers seems me like paranoia."

I wouldn't call it fear, but weighing the facts Aidan1. There have been many reputable doctors that have been for vaccines and realize that this one in particular is dangerous because of the "spike protein." Of course the masses don't get this information because they are suppressing it. Not only that but many have taken the risk of losing their careers to get this information out. Isn't it odd that within 2 years the whole world is on lock down? Not only that our rights are being stripped away. I'm not denying the fact that Covid-19 exists, but I am denying the narrative that this is a pandemic that instantly kills people. Like I said the survival rate is the same as the common flu, 98%. This is about money. Do you know how much money they make by marking off a death as Covid? Up to $5,000 a pop. This is big pharma and the politics that we are going against, not only that, but world control!

Why is it that the mainstream media isn't encouraging us naturally boost are immune systems with good nutrition, vitamins, minerals, and fitness? What about the already preexisting conditions that we obtain from a poor unhealthy lifestyle. Eating whatever we want and being sedentary? I would think that we would need to take those factors into consideration don't you?

Another thing, my Mom actually has a friend that is undergoing a trial, which is paid for by our state to see if natural immunity doesn't work after contracting Covid. Guess what, his immune system is still in tact and he has built the antibodies to fight it off. He did say when you contract it you will notice and it's a bear, but if we take the natural precautions to boost our immunity we should be fine, including taking ivermectin which he said he felt instantly better. The problem is that the majority want the quick fix just like with everything else, not only that but they are being fear driven to get it. I totally understand. What keeps me grounded is the what the Word said, not man and their "actual" paranoia of thinking that we can control disease through technology.

Since your talking about Germany, what do you think is going on now? This is exactly the same propaganda that was used in order to deceive us and willingly just hand over our rights to the point that we have ZERO control! Just look at whats happening in Australia? Why is it that the ones that are anti vaccination the ones being ostracized and being looked at as the ones that are dangerous? When in fact many have caught the virus while even receiving their shots? Not only that, but have been diagnosed with Covid every time they received it. Does that make sense to you?

Also, I'm not implying that your taking part of antichrist just yet, but these seem to be the precursors of what's to come. It's just plain obvious by the rapid rate at which our rights are being taken away and then being condemned as the culprits when in fact it's not true!

I just ask to find alternative points of views and weigh the facts in order to come to a conclusion before blindly following the world pretty much. Which we are called NOT to do!

Prayers
Truthseeker, i am working in a hospital, we have some flu patients, but we had last week 24covid patients ( 9 from them of icu) the the very most were unvaccined.
From my co- worker ( she is a russian german believer) the grandfather died yesterday, the grandmother is liying to die and the parents in law are also infectet with covid in hospital. ( meanwhile her father in law could leave the hospital today) Covid is a real virus.
I agree with you that the facilities to have a scenery like rev. 13 is talking about are pushed through this Pandemie.
But i dont believe all this conspiracy theorys about the vaccine.
In germany the rights of the people are not shortet or took away. It is always the question where ends my freedom and the right of my next begins.
The restrictions we face as Christians have nothing to do with the Pandemie.
 

TruthSeekerJG

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Truthseeker, i am working in a hospital, we have some flu patients, but we had last week 24covid patients ( 9 from them of icu) the the very most were unvaccined.
From my co- worker ( she is a russian german believer) the grandfather died yesterday, the grandmother is liying to die and the parents in law are also infectet with covid in hospital. ( meanwhile her father in law could leave the hospital today) Covid is a real virus.
I agree with you that the facilities to have a scenery like rev. 13 is talking about are pushed through this Pandemie.
But i dont believe all this conspiracy theorys about the vaccine.
In germany the rights of the people are not shortet or took away. It is always the question where ends my freedom and the right of my next begins.
The restrictions we face as Christians have nothing to do with the Pandemie.
I never said that Covid-19 wasn't real. I denied the fact that it is a pandemic based on the statistics of survival rate, which is similar to the common flu. I'm sorry to hear that about your friends and hope the best. Prayers. I would ask to think out side of the box of medical protocols and easy diagnosis by giving drugs, and give more advice about good nutrition. Nutrition should be the #1 protocol within the medical field. Except we have strayed away from it.

I also disagree that this pandemic has nothing to do with Christians, in fact, I think it has everything to do with us as far as setting the stage for the eradication of Christians, which is biblical in Revelation. What I mean by setting the stage, is that our rights are being stripped away to the point where we WILL NOT be able to buy, sell, or trade, even travel. We can just tell by the policies that have been put into place, which pretty much condemns us if we go against the world mindset. If we research the history of vaccines and find out the truth of the dangers of them, wouldn't you want to share that truth? Instead of going along with what we wish would work? Since when was it ever natural to inject ourselves, let alone pierce and infiltrate a closed system (our body) that God created?

Again prayers!
 

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I never said that Covid-19 wasn't real. I denied the fact that it is a pandemic based on the statistics of survival rate, which is similar to the common flu. I'm sorry to hear that about your friends and hope the best. Prayers. I would ask to think out side of the box of medical protocols and easy diagnosis by giving drugs, and give more advice about good nutrition. Nutrition should be the #1 protocol within the medical field. Except we have strayed away from it.

I also disagree that this pandemic has nothing to do with Christians, in fact, I think it has everything to do with us as far as setting the stage for the eradication of Christians, which is biblical in Revelation. What I mean by setting the stage, is that our rights are being stripped away to the point where we WILL NOT be able to buy, sell, or trade, even travel. We can just tell by the policies that have been put into place, which pretty much condemns us if we go against the world mindset. If we research the history of vaccines and find out the truth of the dangers of them, wouldn't you want to share that truth? Instead of going along with what we wish would work? Since when was it ever natural to inject ourselves, let alone pierce and infiltrate a closed system, our body that God created.

Again prayers!
You mean like shutting down church services while leaving Las Vegas and Atlantic City open?
 

TruthSeekerJG

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You mean like shutting down church services while leaving Las Vegas and Atlantic City open?
Exactly that! There are churches that are being sued and shutdown because of it. Example would be John MacArthur's church, which is one out of many. Ultimately they're going to reinstate their version of church and state, except it will be on a world wide scale, One World Religion. That's the endgame. Also, we must be vigilant not to partake in a church or congregation that has let the world creep in and distort a true biblical view.

Crazy, they allow alcohol, drugs, gambling, etc as essential, but the salvation of souls as not... Shaking my head.
 

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Hey it's actually a relief to know that! As long as we don't go along with the world lol. Hope y'all are having a nice morning!
Thanks! Doing pretty good this morning. Don't think it's possible that we go along with the world, since skeptics question everything, and form their own conclusions, which generally go against the majority's view point.

I appreciate your posts, it's like your posting for me, and doing a better job at it, since I don't have as much patience as you. lol

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Thanks! Doing pretty good this morning. Don't think it's possible that we go along with the world, since skeptics question everything, and form their own conclusions, which generally go against the majority's view point.

I appreciate your posts, it's like your posting for me, and doing a better job at it, since I don't have as much patience as you. lol
Shoot, I honestly just thank God because if it weren't for Him...whew, I'd be lost! Granted I do wear down, but thankful that there are others that can help encourage us in order to keep on pushing. He always provides! We must keep fighting the good fight! :)
 

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I never said that Covid-19 wasn't real. I denied the fact that it is a pandemic based on the statistics of survival rate, which is similar to the common flu. I'm sorry to hear that about your friends and hope the best. Prayers. I would ask to think out side of the box of medical protocols and easy diagnosis by giving drugs, and give more advice about good nutrition. Nutrition should be the #1 protocol within the medical field. Except we have strayed away from it.

I also disagree that this pandemic has nothing to do with Christians, in fact, I think it has everything to do with us as far as setting the stage for the eradication of Christians, which is biblical in Revelation. What I mean by setting the stage, is that our rights are being stripped away to the point where we WILL NOT be able to buy, sell, or trade, even travel. We can just tell by the policies that have been put into place, which pretty much condemns us if we go against the world mindset. If we research the history of vaccines and find out the truth of the dangers of them, wouldn't you want to share that truth? Instead of going along with what we wish would work? Since when was it ever natural to inject ourselves, let alone pierce and infiltrate a closed system (our body) that God created?

Again prayers!
So the fact that many people are now disabled due to covid infections and cant return to work is not relevant because they "survived "...

My FIL still can't return to work because he is missing half of his lungs...and he was infected last summer...at the limit of his paid disability and health insurance...but it's a "scandemic" to you...and as far as healthy eating...he is also a farmer who loves local produce. He eats fresh and healthy. But he believed in all the stupid anti vax propaganda and didn't bother to get one in his rural area....he wants one as soon as he can...but the virus also attacked his immune system so we aren't sure if it is going to work.
 

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Jesus is the LIGHT in the darkest of times.
He always makes a way when mankind seeks him.
We are not to fear the one who can kill the body.

What we SHOULD be doing instead of promoting this fear,distrust outright anger and man's agenda is PRAY!
Prayer can eradicate this pestilence as quick as saying " WHAT" if we but believe it so!
Prayer made it NOT rain,then MADE it rain,prayer stopped the sun in it's orbit,prayer has healed,raised the dead to life,given sight to the blind and only prayer can change our existence!

Let us NEVER doubt that it is still GOD WHO IS IN CONTROL!

@ZNP,
I have a voucher for an attitude change if you need it.....and man I think you do!

Btw female here😊
 

ZNP

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@ZNP,
I have a voucher for an attitude change if you need it.....and man I think you do!

Btw female here😊
Facts are facts. People rolling up their sleeves to take the polio vaccine is a case study that supports the vaccine hesitant. It is certainly not a basis to argue that we should mandate an experimental vaccine. Why not use that voucher for yourself?
 

TruthSeekerJG

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So the fact that many people are now disabled due to covid infections and cant return to work is not relevant because they "survived "...

My FIL still can't return to work because he is missing half of his lungs...and he was infected last summer...at the limit of his paid disability and health insurance...but it's a "scandemic" to you...and as far as healthy eating...he is also a farmer who loves local produce. He eats fresh and healthy. But he believed in all the stupid anti vax propaganda and didn't bother to get one in his rural area....he wants one as soon as he can...but the virus also attacked his immune system so we aren't sure if it is going to work.
Again, I never said that Covid wasn't relevant. I agree that it is very real, but I don't think vaccinations are the miracle cure! We can argue that if he does receive the jab, what then? Are you positive he wouldn't receive the same result? Because many have been testing positive after getting multiple shots. Not only that but being diagnosed multiple times with Covid. Plus, there have been many that have all of a sudden died right after receiving the vaccination. Except, they WILL NOT tell you! They keep suppressing that information in the mainstream media. Did you by any chance receive the shot before your husband, assuming he is your husband. I'm also curious to his age? I'm sorry he is going through that.

I'm sorry, but what gain do we have by spreading propaganda? We aren't the ones making up to $5000-10,000 per patient, or per week by saying covid. Also worldwide there have been many credible PhD Doctors that have been saying otherwise from what the mainstream has been saying on this. Specifically because of the "spike protein" that is manufactured, which actually attacks the immune system as well. Creating blood clots!

Recommend taking Vitamin D3 (liquid form) up to 4-5000mg if infected, regular dose is 1000mg, lobelia (liquid form, which helps lungs), vitamin c, and zinc. They also keep discouraging us from taking medicine like ivermectin, which actually is proven to help. My Moms friend is under going a trial to see the effects on immune system and took ivermectin along with the others and he personally said it helped him feel instantly better. I would do more research on it! Also I would be wary to pay attention to the top results of the search because they are obviously biased on it. They have set up their algorithms to show you what they want you to see!

Once again I'm sorry what happened to Fil and prayers! Ultimately it is YOUR choice and I'm not trying to force anything on anyone, unlike the other side which is literally cramming this down our throats and treating it like we HAVE NO choice but take the jab. Just giving an alternative point of view, which I am aware goes against the grain. I'm not here for means of manipulation, but to encourage people to do research and come to a conclusion like I have been saying in these posts.

Even then, we have eternity to look foreword to! Not saying we should rush to get there, but this life is temporary! It is nothing but a vapor.

Praying for Fil!
 

TruthSeekerJG

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Jesus is the LIGHT in the darkest of times.
He always makes a way when mankind seeks him.
We are not to fear the one who can kill the body.

What we SHOULD be doing instead of promoting this fear,distrust outright anger and man's agenda is PRAY!
Prayer can eradicate this pestilence as quick as saying " WHAT" if we but believe it so!
Prayer made it NOT rain,then MADE it rain,prayer stopped the sun in it's orbit,prayer has healed,raised the dead to life,given sight to the blind and only prayer can change our existence!

Let us NEVER doubt that it is still GOD WHO IS IN CONTROL!

@ZNP,
I have a voucher for an attitude change if you need it.....and man I think you do!

Btw female here😊

Hopefully you didn't misinterpret what I meant by saying, "Crazy right?" I was talking about the information that ZNP was providing, which is crazy that the same thing is happening now. Wouldn't take it personal. :)
 

ZNP

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Hopefully you didn't misinterpret what I meant by saying, "Crazy right?" I was talking about the information that ZNP was providing, which is crazy that the same thing is happening now. Wouldn't take it personal. :)
I am terrible at this but I think she is keeping it light.
 

TruthSeekerJG

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Jesus is the LIGHT in the darkest of times.
He always makes a way when mankind seeks him.
We are not to fear the one who can kill the body.

What we SHOULD be doing instead of promoting this fear,distrust outright anger and man's agenda is PRAY!
Prayer can eradicate this pestilence as quick as saying " WHAT" if we but believe it so!
Prayer made it NOT rain,then MADE it rain,prayer stopped the sun in it's orbit,prayer has healed,raised the dead to life,given sight to the blind and only prayer can change our existence!

Let us NEVER doubt that it is still GOD WHO IS IN CONTROL!

@ZNP,
I have a voucher for an attitude change if you need it.....and man I think you do!

Btw female here😊
Agreed, God is in control! Not trying to spread fear, unless it actually scares us into doing more research in order to find out the truth because we realized that we have been deceived!! Or would you rather us not say anything and let man tell us what to think. If anything we are encouraging others to exercise critical thinking.

Much love and prayers and did mean to offend in a good way. A nudge per say ;)