Liberal and Conservative Christianity are both false

These two things do not correlate.

The Church changed the course of the world for 2000 years, you know why? They told the truth and via their blood the world understood no one would die like this for a false god. So, Rome became a Christian Power, and begun carrying the gospel unto the masses. Ever heard of all roads lead to Rome? Did you know the Roman Empire used Koine Greek as a common language for the masses throughout its empire? Thus Jesus came at the exact time, in the exact place he did for an exact reason, he knew that with one Empire, with a common language, with all the Roads the Empire had built to travel on, the taking of the Gospel unto the masses, via all men in the empire having a common language, would be the perfect set up.

The reason the world gets more and more coarse in the modern world is the Church has lost its way. We stand for nothing, whereas all of the Disciples, save John preached until they were killed, all of the Christians imprisoned by Rome died, many singing praises unto the Lord. We have lost our way, we have become worldly, so you say "We can't change what God foretold"..............I say God foretold what He knew would happen after the Church became weak and worldly. Big difference, God knowing a man will go to hell doesn't mean God created that man and made him choose that path.

So your against tax cuts, the cutting of federal job hindering regulations, creating jobs, creating the incentive for people to go to work, better healthcare, more competition in medicine, etc. I do not see greed. You see greed because of the small percent of the rich class.

Statistically even the low class is more wealthier than most around the world.

True in less they are a bad servant then they should be fired. Matthew 25:26-30
If they are lazy they shall not eat 2 Thessalonians 3:10. And let us examine that passage you are referring.


Matthew 20:9-15
New International Version

9 “The workers who were hired about five in the afternoon came and each received a denarius. 10 So when those came who were hired first, they expected to receive more. But each one of them also received a denarius. 11 When they received it, they began to grumble against the landowner. 12 ‘These who were hired last worked only one hour,’ they said, ‘and you have made them equal to us who have borne the burden of the work and the heat of the day.’

13 “But he answered one of them, ‘I am not being unfair to you, friend. Didn’t you agree to work for a denarius? 14 Take your pay and go. I want to give the one who was hired last the same as I gave you. 15 Don’t I have the right to do what I want with my own money? Or are you envious because I am generous?’

Verse 13 says it isn't unfair when you agree to work for that wage.

Verse 15 talks about the owner earned the money, it is his money, and he can do as he wishes with it generous or not. The workers agreed in the morning to work all day for the same wage while the workers in the evening agreed to work for the same wage.

If they didn't agree then they had the freedom to go to another landowner and seek better pay or better conditions.

But this only lives under a free market and capital driven economy based on supply and demand. If workers demand better pay and leave or boycott a company then that company has a choice to raise wages, fire employees, cut out company incentives like free gym mnerships, etc.

Funny same old socialist speech.

Despite having no data. Let us say this is true. Every economic system ran by humans will have flaws and imperfections. No system is perfect until Christ rules on Earth.

What makes a system better than others is it's foundation in morality.

A corrupt government that was built out of immoral politicians voted in will want more government control as what we see in any socialist or communist country. Where the citizens are equal but equally poor.

Immorality will be in any system but in a free market under capitalism with limited government (only for securing a free market, promoting competition, and judicially preventing crime) we see a checks and balances in immoral dealings of companies towards their workers. One company like Hobby Lobby may raise their starting pay to 18 dollars an hour while Michaels arts and crafts store pays 13 dollars an hour. Is it connected to Hobby Lobby's strong Christian foundation? Maybe.

The point is as a worker in a free market of competition guess which store will attract more employees. It could even put Michaels out of business.

But it also was Hobby Lobby doing well and choosing to raise their starting wage versus having the government promote a disastrous living wage that businesses may not be able to afford without firing employees, cutting back, or simply going out of business.

True. But being a wise steward with your money is.

Agree.

Funny. Deception and ridiculous.

Let us all remember the economy and way of life under Trump's policies versus now under Biden.

Yeah, some people went overboard of Trump, but they are those type of people. A lot of us Trump supporters saw the good he did for the country, that he backed Israel, was against abortion and socialism. I never said Trump was a Christian, I don't know his heart. I know people who know him personally that say he is. I never said he was or he wasn't, that's between him and God. He's as much a Christian as the current president, or the last one.

Well I don't know you, personally, Kayla, so couldn't say what you believe about him personally--the fact remains that many Christians did believe he was when obviously by his words and actions he isn't--the point of this forum is not Trump, but Christians wanting a political figure to make things right on this earth--that is what the Jews did in Jesus' time and missed their Messiah who was right in their very midst.

And with that I'll respectfully end our exchange, because you can't educate the willfully ignorant.

Yes it does...

Sheep to the left of me, lemmings on the right, here I am stuck in the middle with few

So you think we have the power to change Gods prophesies.

Good luck with that.

May want to be part of the sheep....


Matthew 25:33-34
New International Version

33 He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.
34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world.

May want to be part of the sheep....


Matthew 25:33-34
New International Version

33 He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.
34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world.

We are a holy vessel as the body is a temple. God sees us as holy through Christ so I many way if we walk with Christ it is God going before us and we are simply following His holy footsteps.

Good to speak to you on the forums again. Always like reading your posts.

Those are your words, and make you seen childish, you can't admit your post was destroyed. LOL

God foreknows all things also but did not predestine us. He gives us freewill, but Him living in ALL TIME at once means he knows the choices we will make before we make them.

You are still on milk.

Thank you brother, you put it much more articulately than I did. But that is a saying evangelicals often say, we're standing on holy ground wherever we go.

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Lol I must of been out of the loop as this was first time I heard it put that way and as you explained it I instantly had multiple scriptures come to mind. So thank you.

I appreciate you too brother. I think we have kindred spirits,

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Same, you are a good friend and your presence always brings light.

I don't know if I've read a post of yours yet that I would disagree with. I just appreciate your thoughtful comments and posts. Blessings!

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Also same, blessings to you as well.

Sad truth about inflation and trying to treat everyone equally regardless of what people want or need.

America is a Constitutional Republic