Does God's justice always prevails here on earth?

Redcars · Dec 3, 2021

Narcissist controlling mom has done some of the most atrocious things against me and my adult siblings for decades and has gotten away with it, yet her life just gets better and better, while my siblings lives just gets worst and worst to the point of suffering mental illness (from what I can observe). Will God ever make her pay for it or at least stop her from doing more harm? My siblings are well into their 30s and still leave in a prison she has created. Literally they are locked up all day unable to live a normal life. The eldest works and gives her entire paycheck for her to control. The house controlled by her (which isnt even hers is my siblings). Their actions controlled by her. No one is allow to have friends. No one is allowed to date. No one can eve have kids. No one has ever had a friend come over. No one has had a birthday party. No one is allow to go to a party. They aren't allowed to have education (i'm the one who forced one on them). The house isn't even hers yet she is the one that decides how it looks. They live in filth with urine and feces due to moms hoarding, even though is not her house, yet they cant stand up against her. They all worship and idolize her and do everything she says. I exposed mom and she hates me for it, has now turned my siblings against me and they hate me so much.

Their entire lives revolve around hurting me. (I tried putting restraining order but judge didnt believe me due to the fact that my evidence was never submitted by dumaxx attorney). Is been decades that she has been abusive and nothing has happen to her, and she feels invisible. My sibling is about to be 40 and she has never ever had a birthday party, never been to one, never visited a beach, never had a boyfriend, never had a friend to text, never been to prom, never been out on a weekend, never worn a dress (mom doesnt allow her), they aren't even allow to close the door when they go to the bathroom because she wants to see what they are doing. She has been manipulative since birth. Her biggest manipulative tactic is God will send them to hell or God will curse their entire lives if they dont obey her. How long is this going to go on? 'Til my siblings are 50 or 60? Why does evil mom keep getting away with this and pretty much laughs at my face? 40 year old sibling doesnt want help, and has turned against me for disagreeing with mom. My siblings will never ever seek help because they think this is normal since they know nothing else. The worst part is if they don't realize how wrong their mom is, they will continue to follow her agenda of hurting me, which is what they have dedicated their entire lives to doing. Mom is hurting me and my adult siblings and she is laughing her way to the bank. Why does God allow her to do such evil things? Will he ever stop her? Will my siblings ever wake up, and if so how since they have no contact with the outside world?

Gideon300 · Dec 3, 2021

Redcars said:

Narcissist controlling mom has done some of the most atrocious things against me and my adult siblings for decades and has gotten away with it, yet her life just gets better and better, while my siblings lives just gets worst and worst to the point of suffering mental illness (from what I can observe). Will God ever make her pay for it or at least stop her from doing more harm? My siblings are well into their 30s and still leave in a prison she has created. Literally they are locked up all day unable to live a normal life. The eldest works and gives her entire paycheck for her to control. The house controlled by her (which isnt even hers is my siblings). Their actions controlled by her. No one is allow to have friends. No one is allowed to date. No one can eve have kids. No one has ever had a friend come over. No one has had a birthday party. No one is allow to go to a party. They aren't allowed to have education (i'm the one who forced one on them). The house isn't even hers yet she is the one that decides how it looks. They live in filth with urine and feces due to moms hoarding, even though is not her house, yet they cant stand up against her. They all worship and idolize her and do everything she says. I exposed mom and she hates me for it, has now turned my siblings against me and they hate me so much.

Their entire lives revolve around hurting me. (I tried putting restraining order but judge didnt believe me due to the fact that my evidence was never submitted by dumaxx attorney). Is been decades that she has been abusive and nothing has happen to her, and she feels invisible. My sibling is about to be 40 and she has never ever had a birthday party, never been to one, never visited a beach, never had a boyfriend, never had a friend to text, never been to prom, never been out on a weekend, never worn a dress (mom doesnt allow her), they aren't even allow to close the door when they go to the bathroom because she wants to see what they are doing. She has been manipulative since birth. Her biggest manipulative tactic is God will send them to hell or God will curse their entire lives if they dont obey her. How long is this going to go on? 'Til my siblings are 50 or 60? Why does evil mom keep getting away with this and pretty much laughs at my face? 40 year old sibling doesnt want help, and has turned against me for disagreeing with mom. My siblings will never ever seek help because they think this is normal since they know nothing else. The worst part is if they don't realize how wrong their mom is, they will continue to follow her agenda of hurting me, which is what they have dedicated their entire lives to doing. Mom is hurting me and my adult siblings and she is laughing her way to the bank. Why does God allow her to do such evil things? Will he ever stop her? Will my siblings ever wake up, and if so how since they have no contact with the outside world?

Gideon300 · Dec 3, 2021

It will go on until someone wakes up and realises that something is wrong. Until then, they are voluntarily submitting to the mother. God intervenes when He is asked. When I was 15, I left home. I joined the military as soon as I could (16). Until then, I stayed with a relative. It was much easier for me as I had a supportive father. I suspect he was glad to be rid of me! I was a typical pain in the neck teenager.

If you can, get right away from the situation. You can't change it and you only make things worse if you try. You and others can intercede for your family with God. He can make a way where there is no way. But He also respects mankind's will. Your situation is not unique. You may find people who know how to deal with this situation.

I suggest that you read Psalm 37. That will encourage you. David spent a lot of time in King Saul's court. Saul hated David and tried to kill him many times. God protected David. And David never tried to take revenge on Saul. When David became King, it was with a clear conscience and with God's blessing.

No one gets away with anything. Let God deal with the situation. All we can do is make things worse.

Lanolin · Dec 4, 2021

what happened to your dad or your mums husband just wondering.

. Well, Jezebels reign of terror ended when she was thrown out the window by her eunuchs and eaten by dogs.

Redcars · Dec 4, 2021

Lanolin said:

Mom left dad when I was young and never allowed us to see him, because he didn't agree with the cult like religion she was part of. However she tells all my younger siblings that it was because of his abuse when in fact he never laid a hand on her. I am the eldest and remember well that is a big lie, dad worked so hard to provide us with , beautiful house, toys, food, clohtes everything we needed and to allow my mom to stay home and not work or lift a finger in her life.

oyster67 · Dec 4, 2021

Does God's justice always prevails here on earth?

Yes.

We need to step waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back and look at the BIG picture. i.e., ask the Spirit to give us a God's eye POV on things.

God dwells outside and above time and space. Just trust and obey and UBOK!

oyster67 · Dec 4, 2021

2 Kings 6:17 And Elisha prayed, and said, LORD, I pray thee, open his eyes, that he may see. And the LORD opened the eyes of the young man; and he saw: and, behold, the mountain [was] full of horses and chariots of fire round about Elisha.

Lanolin · Dec 4, 2021

Redcars said:

ok...and what is this cult like religion, you can name it here.
How old were you when this happened. Are they divorced or what.

Just asking because if they are still legally married then I think you can get a court order or at least a right to see your father, (is he still alive?) or some sort of inheritance...and some kind of power of attorney.
Was the she in the cult before or after she married.

I mean am no expert but you can get outside legal help in family matters if its too messy and complicated to resolve on your own.

Lanolin · Dec 4, 2021

I mean after giving it to God of course but if your mum was married then she'd have marriage papers or divorce papers which would include custody agreements and settlements and property or something like that.

narcissists believe everything belongs to them when it doesnt. It is well known that parents can be the cause mental illness in their offspring, however many make out like its not their fault at all.

not having a birthday or whatver though isnt that big a deal, a lot of children actually dont even know their birthdays. But more like poverty can force mothers to do things not in their childrens best interest. Having no breadwinner means mothers tend to use their children as earners to make up for their lack. Its actually very common.

Williejay1975 · Dec 5, 2021

Some people are persecuted up to death like Christ was (so there is not always Justice). But all things work out for them who do all they can do to serve God (Romans 8:28). God will not put more on you than you can be willing to bear (I Corinthians 10:13 + Matthew 11:30).

Redcars · Dec 5, 2021

Lanolin said:

I don't know if they ever divorce (in fact I don't even know if they even legally married) but when I went looking for my dad he had just passed away. I was told he asked for me on his dead bed. I don't remember the cult she was part of because I was too young and didn't even know what a cult was I thought it was just a church, but from what I concluded it was the FLDS. Initiations were in Arizona were we lived, then they attempted to take us to an encampment in Utah and changed our names and our entire identity, they were polygamy, living off welfare and giving everything to the leader of the house. As an older child my sibling and I refuse to make the journey to this camp and threaten to run away. The vans of people made the excursion and I never heard from them again, we stayed behind with mom. But til this day, mom still lives by these cult principles and raised my siblings by them. These is the only theing they have ever known

Redcars · Dec 5, 2021

Lanolin said:

I mean after giving it to God of course but if your mum was married then she'd have marriage papers or divorce papers which would include custody agreements and settlements and property or something like that.

narcissists believe everything belongs to them when it doesnt. It is well known that parents can be the cause mental illness in their offspring, however many make out like its not their fault at all.

not having a birthday or whatver though isnt that big a deal, a lot of children actually dont even know their birthdays. But more like poverty can force mothers to do things not in their childrens best interest. Having no breadwinner means mothers tend to use their children as earners to make up for their lack. Its actually very common.

omg you are so right, mom have half a dozen children, and she always says she needed more so that her welfare didnt run out, so yeah i guess she sees her children as her breadwinner

Oblio · Dec 5, 2021

I don't see justice in the church...how is there going to be justice on the earth?

Lanolin · Dec 5, 2021

Oh yes the FLDS

I have read about them you really need to talk to some others who have left that cult how they escaped because its a very entrenched/established cult in Utah.

I am so sorry to hear that your family was caught up in it. They do milk the govt for welfare money and believe it is their right to do so.

Blik · Dec 13, 2021

God allows us all to choose our own beliefs, God does not strong arm anyone into living for Him. We are to allow that in the people around us. You need to bless your mother and do good for her as the Lord tells you to do, and accept her choices in life. You are murdering her with your thoughts, if you will read the sermon on the mount in Matt. chapter 5 that explains murder.

I know this is hard to do and goes against every single thing we are taught about living in the kingdom of the world, but we are to live in the kingdom of heaven as Christ explains.

If you put on the entire armor of God and live as God within you tells you, you will see that the way the world is blessing her is not true blessing. You have the justice, the true worth, the ability and strength when you submit yourself to the Lord within. Having money does not compare to that.

Whenever you think of your mother, send her this prayer.

Numbers 6:24-26 “The LORD bless you and keep you; The LORD make His face shine upon you, And be gracious to you; The LORD lift up His countenance upon you, And give you peace.” ’

GandalfTheWhite · Dec 13, 2021

I believe this is answered in the Bible,

Ecc 8:11 Because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully set in them to do evil.
Ecc 8:12 Though a sinner do evil an hundred times, and his days be prolonged, yet surely I know that it shall be well with them that fear God, which fear before him:
Ecc 8:13 But it shall not be well with the wicked, neither shall he prolong his days, which are as a shadow; because he feareth not before God.

God will judge when He is ready...

Godsgirl83 · Dec 13, 2021

Redcars said:

Are you able to anonymously request a "well being check" for your mother? A check where local PD or community agency goes to the home to investigate? If your siblings are into their 30's is mom old enough to be qualified as a senior, perhaps a check in by an agency that deals with senior abuse/well being/mental health cases?

brighthouse98 · Dec 13, 2021

Brother or sister Redcars First I am very sorry for the bondage they, and you have gone through! I remember long ago when I was working in a store because I am a believer in our Jesus they made fun of me,and gave me tasks most people would have quit on,I went into prayer to have the Lord give me the escape he promised me!( 1 Cor 10:13)The Holy Spirit inside me spoke to speak out loud Psalm 63 so I did and 3 days later those people who were mean got both fired or moved to another store!! Please do likewise. And please do tell us what happened,my prayers and love of Jesus always be with you!!

Genipher · Dec 13, 2021

Hard to share without dishonoring my dad but...

Basically, anyone in my family who stood up to my dad, had their own thoughts, etc. was "banned" from his life.
He expects his children to be like the Prodigal Son and abandon our families and go running back to him and his control. I've been told when he dies, he doesn't want any of us "traitors" at his funeral. That one really hurts because when I was growing up, he was everything to me.

I still have 2 younger brothers living at home. By younger, I mean like 21 and 23 years old. They've been given the same song and dance that all us older siblings went through and had to detox from, that all the older siblings are evil and can't be trusted.
Although my dad has always been adamant that men need to have jobs and support themselves, my brothers JUST got their first jobs and driver's licenses about a year-ish ago. I have a feeling, like your mom, that dad will never let them leave like he let us go. He probably knows if they get out and fellowship with believers and actually TALK to their siblings, that he'll lose control of them, too.

So, long story short, I know how you feel. I know my brothers are trapped but THEY don't seem to know it. They're happy living in their fear (my married brother once came over and both the younger "boys" fled into the woods so they wouldn't have to talk to evil big brother. sigh) and ignorant of the truth.

I think, for some of us, there is no justice in this world. The justice comes after, when Christ returns.
Until then, God uses these situations with our parents to mold and form us. To what purpose? Only He knows.
I expect, for my brothers, they won't ever be able to escape until God takes dad from this world.
Sometimes that's the only way people can escape.

I second requesting a well check. If the house is as bad off as you say, you might be able to have your mom taken to a nursing home or something.

oyster67 · Dec 14, 2021

Oblio said:

I long for that glorious day when Lord Jesus will walk this Earth with an iron rod. Justice leads to peace which leads to joy for the Children of the King. Don't lose hope, my friend. Our best days are ahead, not behind.

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