Step by Step: 1 A mistake by Eve

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KelbyofGod

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"Step by Step" just means we ought to look at the issue cautiously, watching for the point where a conclusion is reached that is NOT actually stated.

I picked the case of Eve as a first subject because it's a good example of "details matter" and more people have heard of this mistake over others that could be discussed. I'll just give the basics and point out the "detail" that Eve got wrong that opened her up for deception and the cascade of events that followed. Everyone is invited to comment and take the discussion in any honest direction. In the future, I'll probably post a "Step by Step: 2" addressing a nowadays example where jumping to conclusions can create an errant belief(s).

Ok, here's the basics of the story:
  • God created Adam and Eve and has them in the garden of Eden with a command to NOT eat of the tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, saying "But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die."
  • Eve is asked by the serpent "Hath God said 'ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden"
  • Eve answers "We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden. But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die."
  • The serpent replies "Ye shall not surely die..."
  • Eve despises the commandment and eats of the forbidden fruit.
A brief summary (subject to discussion and addition):
  1. Eve misquoted God, adding a piece that God did not say.
  2. That extra piece was given trust that it did not deserve. (Eve spoke it as if it was just as powerful as the part God DID say)
  3. When the trustworthiness of Eve's statement was called into question, Eve distrusted the truth, not the error presented by herself.

Are you able to see where she started to go astray? Someone else pointed out that Eve wasn't personally there when the Word was given to Adam so she was operating on someone else's revelation, making her vulnerable.

BTW, I didn't post the actual scriptures here. Don't make yourself vulnerable by relying on your memory only. Please reread the actual accounts in Genesis 1, 2 & 3.

Love in Jesus,
Kelby
 
studentoftheword

studentoftheword

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KelbyofGod said:
"Step by Step" just means we ought to look at the issue cautiously, watching for the point where a conclusion is reached that is NOT actually stated.

I picked the case of Eve as a first subject because it's a good example of "details matter" and more people have heard of this mistake over others that could be discussed. I'll just give the basics and point out the "detail" that Eve got wrong that opened her up for deception and the cascade of events that followed. Everyone is invited to comment and take the discussion in any honest direction. In the future, I'll probably post a "Step by Step: 2" addressing a nowadays example where jumping to conclusions can create an errant belief(s).

Ok, here's the basics of the story:
  • God created Adam and Eve and has them in the garden of Eden with a command to NOT eat of the tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, saying "But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die."
  • Eve is asked by the serpent "Hath God said 'ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden"
  • Eve answers "We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden. But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die."
  • The serpent replies "Ye shall not surely die..."
  • Eve despises the commandment and eats of the forbidden fruit.
A brief summary (subject to discussion and addition):
  1. Eve misquoted God, adding a piece that God did not say.
  2. That extra piece was given trust that it did not deserve. (Eve spoke it as if it was just as powerful as the part God DID say)
  3. When the trustworthiness of Eve's statement was called into question, Eve distrusted the truth, not the error presented by herself.

Are you able to see where she started to go astray? Someone else pointed out that Eve wasn't personally there when the Word was given to Adam so she was operating on someone else's revelation, making her vulnerable.

BTW, I didn't post the actual scriptures here. Don't make yourself vulnerable by relying on your memory only. Please reread the actual accounts in Genesis 1, 2 & 3.

Love in Jesus,
Kelby
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This is how I see this -----

I personally don't think it was what Eve said that was the problem ------the problem caame when Eve's thinking was affected by a Question that was proposed by the Serpent ------who said ---Surely -you won't die ? ---So what the serpent did was put a thought of DOUBT in her mind --that maybe God was trying to keep them from knowing something that He knew ------

So the serpent actually deceived Eve or tricked Eve into taking the fruit from that tree ------now Eve was given free will to decide to either take the fruit or leave it ---but the serpent was crafty in his questing her and instilling Doubt in her thoughts and this caused her to waver in her trusting God's motive in giving them the command not to eat the fruit of that tree ----

And that is what Satan still does today with us ------he poses a question of should you believe that or this and we waver in our trust in what God says in His word and we make the choice to trust God or Satan ------
 
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