Fully God and Fully Man, how does that work?

What I am saying is Jesus was fully man and fully God he did not have the sinful nature although His flesh was tempted. Being tempted is not a sin, it is a tactic of the devil as we read in Luke chapter 4. And I am not well down the road of Gnosticism. Philippians 2:7-8 doesn't say any such thing in context to your posting of it.

starting at verse 6

Who, being in very nature God,
did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;
7 rather, he made himself nothing
by taking the very nature of a servant,
being made in human likeness.
8 And being found in appearance as a man,
he humbled himself
by becoming obedient to death—
even death on a cross!

This is the teaching of the doctrine known as Kenosis Jesus emptied Himself of His or stepped out of some of his deity attributes to become a man to die. Jesus had to be fully man to die a death, yet HE had to be fully God to have the power to take His life back as HE said. Jesus relied on the Holy Spirit fully as a man.

I believe you need to refine your thought;

Christ received those attributes needed to full fill His assignment.
Example;...He does not know the day and hour of His 2nd advent.
Remember...some things are reserved for our Father's knowledge...only.
Many other examples.

That’s about the most honest answer any human can give.

I really don't have anything to say.

This is probably one of the most amazing posts of any Christian forum ever.

Very simple, He was and still is the second person of the Godhood, the SEEN part of God, also called THE WORD: who took on the flesh of a human. If anyone could have seen inside the body of Jesus to see the Spirit inside, they would have seen the WORD that in the beginning said "LIGHT: BE."

I am convinced, when He became the Spirit inside the body, He laid aside ALL Godly attributes so He would be disguised as a man. The Devil COULD NOT FIND HIM - until much later in his life. As a man, He was no longer all powerful - but the Father and the Holy Spirit still were. He was no longer all knowing - but the Father and the Holy Spirit still were. He was no longer able to be everywhere at the same time - but the Father and the Holy Spirit still were. One thing is CERTAIN: He never ceases to be WHO He was: the WORD at the beginning.

Are we still "US" when our spirit separates from the body? Certainly we are.

The second person of the triune Godhead was the "I AM" at creation and will still be the "I AM" at the end....but since there will be no "end" He will ALWAYS be the "I AM."

Hmmm.

Define "nature."

Since the subject has been risen again, I will post again what the Word says about what Jesus is called.
From Isaiah:
Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

It seems the Child is the Everlasting Fasther, Counselor, Ruler of Peace and much more. He is King, He is Redeemer, and he is all there is .

I believe this wholly. I do not understand it fully, but one help is the teaching from both the Old and the New Testaments given so us by God, the Word. God is One.

This mystery will be given each of us to understand fully come His time. Meanwhil I pray the Eternal Father bless us with the Counselor and save us all by the Blood of His Lamb, Jesus Yeshua, amen.

God looked from heaven and saw that mankind was lost in darkness and there was no man to intercede for them in all creation there wasn’t one person worthy to Intercede for mankind’s sin . God saw it and it displeased him and so he himself became a man to
Intercede and save us who were lost

“But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear. …None calleth for justice, nor any pleadeth for truth: they trust in vanity, and speak lies;

they conceive mischief, and bring forth iniquity. The way of peace they know not; and there is no judgment in their goings: they have made them crooked paths: whosoever goeth therein shall not know peace.

Therefore is judgment far from us, neither doth justice overtake us: we wait for light, but behold obscurity; for brightness, but we walk in darkness. We grope for the wall like the blind, and we grope as if we had no eyes: we stumble at noonday as in the night; we are in desolate places as dead men.

For our transgressions are multiplied before thee, and our sins testify against us: for our transgressions are with us; and as for our iniquities, we know them; And judgment is turned away backward, and justice standeth afar off:

for truth is fallen in the street, and equity cannot enter. Yea, truth faileth; and he that departeth from evil maketh himself a prey:


and the Lord saw it, and it displeased him that there was no judgment. And he saw that there was no man, and wondered that there was no intercessor: therefore his arm brought salvation unto him; and his righteousness, it sustained him.

For he put on righteousness as a breastplate, and an helmet of salvation upon his head; and he put on the garments of vengeance for clothing, and was clad with zeal as a cloak.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭59:2, 4, 8-10, 12, 14-17‬ ‭

He took upon himself the seed of mankind in order to become our intercessor which has to be a man interceding for men . In the ot we learn God is not a man , but in The nt we learn God loves us so much he became one of us in order to save us from our sins and lack of judgement

God became the son of man

“Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭1:23‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭9:6-7‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.”
‭‭1 Timothy‬ ‭3:16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

God the creator became a man in order to save mankind

Isaiah 9:6-7a

"Fully God and Fully Man, how does that work?"

It works by believing the Bible is "God breathed".

1 Timothy 3:16 (NKJV)
16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifested in the flesh, Justified in the Spirit, Seen by angels, Preached among the Gentiles, Believed on in the world, Received up in glory.

This alone is worthy for all to learn. If they do, they have no problem believe mysteries fro our Father evn though not yet understood.

Thank you for putting so much into a very few words.

“For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭5:7‬ ‭

“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. …He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. ….And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, full of grace and truth.”
‭‭John‬ ‭1:1, 10, 14‬ ‭KJV‬

“I and my Father are one.”
‭‭John‬ ‭10:30‬ ‭

“the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.”

“Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭28:19‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭2:38‬ ‭KJV‬‬

your confusing God being three different persons with seeing what Hod has done for us Almighty God saw that man was lost and so he was born in the flesh of man to be our intercessor and manifest his true self to us in Christ. And then the promise of his spirit which comes along with faith in him alone being the One true God who has shown himself to us in Christ and given himself to us in the spirit

“But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭8:9‬ ‭KJV‬‬

that’s the holy spirit , Gods spirit same spirit they are one

“For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭8:14‬ ‭KJV‬‬

to see his plan unfold is to see the invisable God of heaven manifest himself in the flesh to be our intercessor and savior doesn’t make him distinct from himself they are one and the same it’s God showing himself to mankind in Christ who is God

there’s no difference only seeing the different parts of his plan whether the ot When mans sin had his him from them or nt when he manifest himself to us in Christ , or whether receiving the Holy Spirit by the gospel it’s still the same God.

Our one God has finally Made himself known to man

“And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭5:20‬ ‭KJV‬‬


That’s why people are baptized into his name it’s the name of the father . Son and Holy Ghost the one true God Jesus Christ . He’s the only being who ever was manifest in one the father son and Holy Ghost in himself his body

“For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭2:9‬ ‭KJV‬‬

when he was walking in earth it was the father son and Holy Ghost in one. That’s why Thy Bible exalts Jesus over everyone else other than God because he is himself God

by the way of people don’t agree with you it doesn’t mean they are condemned

The issue is about agreement with God. Those who disagree with God are condemned.

yeah those who reject Christs word definately

“He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.”
‭‭John‬ ‭12:48-50‬ ‭KJV‬‬

I think what I was saying is Jesus , God , the Holy Spirit are one Being named Jesus. And he isn’t three “ seperate and distinct persons “

we only perceive that because we see him appearing in the ot being hidden behind a cloud . And spoken of as of no one can know or come close to him or they will die .

but the New Testament the same God shows himself in Christ and calls us to come as close as possible so we can live

the Holy Ghost same thing its Gods spirit , Christs spirit holt spirit one and the same like Jesus the son of God the father one and the same

This is Oneness Pentecostalism which denies that each one in the Godhead is a distinct divine Person. That is not biblical.

'The "Jesus Only" movement, also known as Oneness Pentecostalism or oneness theology, teaches that there is only one God, but denies the tri-unity of God. In other words, oneness theology does not recognize the distinct persons of the Godhead: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. It has various forms—some see Jesus Christ as the one God, who sometimes manifests Himself as the Father or the Holy Spirit. The core doctrine of Oneness Pentecostal / Jesus Only is that Jesus is the Father and Jesus is the Spirit. There is one God who reveals Himself in different "modes."'
https://www.gotquestions.org/oneness-Jesus-only.html

I don't need to read al that to explain wat this means.

Fully God means the same thing as the Trinity, Jesus nor the Holy Spirit are The Father (of course) who has the "Abundance of the Glory" but they are the exact same in Spirit or ESSENCE, they are all three Love, Joy, Hope, Peace, Kind, Longsuffering, Forgiving, Merciful etc. etc. etc. But God the Father could not abide in you nor I, mere men, we would not be able to contain the fulness of His glory, we would die just like the 70 who peered into the ark of the covenant. So, just like lets take a 3 trillion gallon reservoir has 3 trillions gallons of water that is EXAVTLY THE SAME THRUGHOUT in ever ounce via its chemical makeup. You could take 100 gallons (Jesus) of that "WATER" and pour it over your head and you would be socking wet, but live. You could take another 100 gallons (Holy Spirit) of that "WATER" and pour it over your heard and again you would be OK, but soaking wet. NOW, take the rest of the Three Trillion Gallons of "WATER" (God the Father who has the ABUNDANCE of the Glory) and pout tat over our head and you would SURELY DIE !! All three are the EXACT SAME "WATER" with the Water representing God in this lesson here. But the Three Trillion Gallons is the ABUNDANCE, the two 100 Gallon Barrels are the exact same water, thus the Holy Spirit can live in us, and men actually hugged and looked upon Jesus and lived, because the Father has the abundance of the Glory, but all three are Love, Hope, Peace, Joy etc. etc. ALL THREE are God, they are God the Father, God the Helper and God the Redeemer.

Likewise, Jesus was born of a woman and was Human with ONE MAJOR DIFFERECE, he had not the blood or DNA of Adam and thus he was not tainted with Sin Nature, thus he was/is God living in a Human Being who resisted all temptation, as men are tested with. Thus he is God living in a Human Body, WITHOUT SIN, making him FULLY God because he knew no Sin and was the Son of God, and making him Human because he lived in a flesh body.

Being FULLY God as Jesus doesn't mean he's The Father. Jesus couldn't have walked around with all of the glory the Father has, all men who saw him would have died because God CAN NOT ABIDE Sin in his Holy Presence, his FULL GLORY would not allow it. When Jesus was on the cross bearing our sins, God had to leave his presence, thus Jesus says "My God, My God, why has thou forsaken (left) me?" God the Holy Spirit had to leave Jesus when all of our sins were cast upon him. Jesus is God the Redeemer, the Son, but he's not God the Father. In Spirit they are one and the same, they are EXACTLY ALIKE, But the Father has the abundance of the Glory.

I often wonder why people can't grasp these things. Maybe God just blessed me with understanding, and others with kindness etc. I spend time pondering these things but I wrestle with God you could say until I get answers.

Luke 1:35-38
King James Version

35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

36 And, behold, thy cousin Elisabeth, she hath also conceived a son in her old age: and this is the sixth month with her, who was called barren.

37 For with God nothing shall be impossible.

38 And Mary said, Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it unto me according to thy word. And the angel departed from her.

yeah according to you it isn’t biblical according to me it is

that’s a difference of opinion regarding interpretation doesn’t mean your a heretic or I am lol it just means we are hearing it differently