PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE GET THE COVID SHOT.

I don't know where you are looking but I have not found this to be true.

You prove my point. Who are the "they"? How do you know it would have 0% survival rate? The plague killed a lot of people, but not all. AIDS does not have to be fatal these days. Ebola kills up to 90% of those infected, but some survive.

You make sweeping statements without any basis. Christians are supposed to love the truth. God will hold you accountable for your words.

You are looking in the wrong place.

It seems like we have to resolve this issue or else we will have another 223 pages of people posting conflicting studies, reports, and "evidence".

If you live, that is. And if you can endure months of ill effects from the virus. And if natural immunity is better than the immunity given by vaccines. A lot of ifs. Your choice, of course. Please ensure that it is an informed choice, not the product of wild and baseless speculation.

Apparently you haven't read Penn Ed's or Nehemiah's posts

The hospital doesn't just eat those costs. They are paid thru inflated prices for those who are insured, or by taxpayer funding. So if you agree with that policy, are you not promoting socialized medicine?

And around here that makes you a commie ; )

Let me clarify, none of the protests around the globe in NYC, or Belgium, or Italy, or France, or Australia, etc. are about stopping people from getting the vaccine that want to get it.

Your basis for salvation is false. Is that how you were saved? And the Holy Spirit did not tell me to not get the jab.

Maybe he thinks they are nobodies.

The issue will never be resolved. Too many people are set in their positions and will not budge, even when it is obvious that they are wrong.

One of the arch enemies of vaccination claimed that COVID was the result of a flu vaccine that was developed for the Spanish flu. Spanish flu appeared in 1918 and the pandemic ended about 3 years later. The first flu vaccine was created in 1938. Presumably the vaccine traveled back in time, mixed with the Spanish flu and voila! COVID. And that is the intellectual rigour that is applied to this discussion.

I'm not trying to change the confirmed conspiracy theorists. I'm hoping that those who read their posts will at least investigate the claims for themselves.

I'm not saying this is the way it should be. I'm pointing out the way hospital policy actually is. Sorry if I seemed to conflate the two.

Technically, that person without insurance IS paying for his or her medical care by paying taxes, right?

One doctor? How many doctors we have in germany? Ask the doctors on the icu's.
It is known that also doctors are not agree with the vaccine.
Special those which working with alternative medicin.
Its like with the Cooks. Ask 3 cooks and you have 3 meanings about preparing a stew.

Whom should i believe?
I working in a hospital, have contact with doctors from icu, present we have 8 covid patients on icu, ( unvaccined).
I got my booster in october, feeling normal.

There is many panicmaking in the net.

And your country present warns to visit germany because of high covidinfection.

And in the case this doctor speak the truth, then I am soon with my Lord.
Thats quite better, then to live in this godless World.
But I dont believe this doctors unproofed claim.
And so I stay in this world, solong the Lord wants it.

Thank you for the report.
But i dont think that Dr.Kempf mentioned that
1.it was known that the antibodys of vaccined, special elderly people is going down after 6 month. The most elderly people were vaccined in spring and erster summer month. So no wonder that they will are the victims now. Thats why the booster.
2. it is known that with the encreasing of vaccination also the number of breakthroughs raise up.
3. it is known that the deltavariant came when the vaccinealreafdy was produced.
4. through Desinformation and panicmaking people avoid till now the vaccine.
5. because of a Livingstyle like before the Pandemie special from non vaccined people.
Nobody can stop an pandemie, or reduce it that patients can get the treatment in hospital which they need.

many doctors from all over the world have said that ivermectin and hydroxy are effective treatments, just like having a healthy immune system.

you just do not want to listen to them....

This is the worst thread around.
All the bickering about who's right and who's wrong.
How ridiculous.
We as Christians should be edifying each other.

This thread is awesome, it is a collection of studies and news reports from all over the world. Yes there are those who bicker and try to drag you into that nastiness of theirs, ignore them. Whenever you meet someone who wants to see evidence that the vaccines don't work or are dangerous just come to this thread and scroll through.

it is about truth and lies.

the truth is - covid numbers and deaths are overcounted, the vaccine is at best not effective, and there are ways to avoid and treat one's self if one gets sick from covid.

anyone speaking against this, which is easily provable , is either lying or being prideful and refusing to admit they are wrong.

lies and pride are sins.
a humble teachable attitude is Christian.

German Study Proves Higher Vaccinations Link To Higher Death Rates

The Harvard study showed vaccination makes things worse as far as cases goes. This new study from Germany shows that the more you vaccinate the more people get killed. Not a surprise to me.

I just got a new study from a friend in Germany (Max Langen).
What this new German study shows is: The higher the vaccination rate, the higher the excess mortality.
I can’t say I’m surprised. These are the deadliest vaccine in human history by a factor of over 800. But it is always nice to get confirmation from multiple sources who have no conflicts.
The authors write (translated into English): “The correlation is + .31, is amazingly high and especially in an unexpected direction. Actually, it should be negative, so that one could say: The higher the vaccination rate, the lower the excess mortality. However, the opposite is the case and this urgently needs to be clarified. Excess mortality can be observed in all 16 countries…”
In plain English: vaccination makes things worse, not better.
I wanted to share this study with you because it might be interesting for you and maybe you want to add it to your vaccine data.
Here is the link to the original study (it will download a word docx in German).
The original German study translated into English is available as a PDF here.
And here is a news report about this study:
Bundesländer mit hoher Impfquote haben höchste Übersterblichkeit – reitschuster.de
Use Google translate plug-in to read it. It looks like this (followed by a short excerpt):

The physicist Dr. Ute Bergner , who formerly belonged to the FDP parliamentary group in the Thuringian state parliament, has meanwhile switched to the “Citizens for Thuringia” party, held on November 17. A speech in front of the Thuringian state parliament in which she presented an analysis she had commissioned .
She commissioned two statisticians to investigate whether there was a connection between the vaccination rate and excess mortality in the 16 federal states.
Prof. Dr. Rolf Steyer and Dr. Gregor Kappler analyzed the period from week 36 to week 40.
The results are alarming. The summary of the analysis states: