Vaccination?

my response-

don't have socialized medicine.

that is what socialized healthcare is- not enough.

Thousands march in New York City against COVID vaccine mandate
Thousands of New Yorkers marched through the city on Saturday to protest mandatory COVID-19 vaccinations, joining millions of others around the planet who also took to the streets as part of a “World Wide Rally For Freedom” in opposition to global medical tyranny.

Chanting “We the people will not comply!” they carried American and Gadsden (“Don’t tread on me”) flags, and signs and banners expressing heartfelt messages:

• Medical choice is a human right
• Mandates are unethical & unscientific
• Let My Dad Work 
• Truth is treason in an empire of lies
• I am informed, I do not consent
• I choose natural immunity 
• Medical freedom now 
• Want to live in a free country or not?
• Stop the mandate before it’s too late!
• I am one of the 80 million and I will never comply
• Airline crew will not comply
• The real virus is communism 

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/t...mandate/?utm_source=top_news&utm_campaign=usa

While millions are protesting worldwide, a handful of COVID tyrants are simply ignoring them. So the solution is really a military one -- swift elimination of the criminals by whatever means they see fit. The courts will do nothing to uphold the guaranteed constitutional freedoms. The militaries are supposedly there to protect citizens from domestic enemies (as much as foreign enemies).

Show me this millions demostrantes worldwide. A minority wants dominate the majority.
How far goes Personal freedom? On the cost of others?
I know Personal freedom is a high value, but it ends at the beginning of right for the other.

F.e. An german unvaccined midwife recently infects a mother and Baby while she gave birth to the child.

We faced since the beginning of the Pandemie that people ignore what the goverment says to protect themselves and others from the virus.
And we face the higest infection rate since beginning of the Pandemie.
We have a letalrate of 0,8 % of the infection rate. Today we have over 45000 infections( this are 13000 more then last tuesday) that means 360 people will definatly die.
You folks have nothing to do then attacking to help these people. Seperation and vaccation is the only way to protect from a virus. I doubt that you would use your arguments when the covid virus would have the letality of the ebola virus.

Colin powel died of complication due due to covid and the cancer he had, He did not die because he took the vaccine

Show me this millions demostrantes worldwide.

As if you really know the truth (which began to be covered up almost immediately).

So here is another truth bomb you should be aware of:
FDA files: 26,000 'nervous system disorders' from Pfizer vaccine in first 2.5 months

"The documentation was obtained in a Freedom of Information lawsuit filed a group called Public Health and Medical Professionals for Transparency, comprised of more than 30 professors and scientists from universities including Yale, Harvard, UCLA and Brown".
https://www.wnd.com/2021/11/fda-fil...em-disorders-pfizer-vaccine-first-2-5-months/

According to you and others here, these scientists and professors are all paranoid conspiracy theorists, and Pfizer should be awarded handsomely for its murderous vaccine. But there are thousands of ethical medical doctors who are totally opposed to the COVID tyranny that has been established worldwide.

Since you are WILFULLY BLIND and WILFULLY IGNORANT you will see nothing.

I have to correct, the letality rate 1,8 so 810 will die.

Pardon, you are the One who claimes things which are without proof.
In europe are maby some thousands, you mentioned thousands in New York.
Lot of them the from the right wing, near right radikal nazionalists. If I am not wrong. With tendence to be criminal. In austria they tryed to burn a policeman.
So where are the millions?

People are welcome to disagree. I will not accept fake news as fact, lies as truth, misinformation and slander as being acceptable for Christians. Vaccines generally work the same on all races in all countries. Nothing made by humans is perfect. Something like 90% of Australians have been vaccinated. The hospital burden is reducing and the death rate in decline. Exactly the opposite to the expectations of anti vaxxers. I'm one of the 90%. I'm 70, so I'm high risk if I catch COVID. I also have had a heart problem and blood pressure higher than it should be. So it was a big decision for me to get the vaccination. I read as much as I could and I read the pro-con (mostly con) arguments on this forum.

I am against mandatory vaccination. However, the anti vax hysteria troubles me. Christians should love the truth. I don't see much of that in this debate.

The hospital burden is reducing and the death rate in decline

You know what is concentration camp?
If you use this term.

in the northern territory of austraila , chief minister michael gunner announced that people had to stay in their homes except for a medical emergency , and due to 9 positive tests and then contact tracing, people are being placed into a quarantine camp at howard springs.

of course, you are probably fine with this......

It's quarantine, for 2 weeks at most. There is nothing new or sinister about this. No one likes it. People are not forced to come to Australia so they are not compelled to quarantine.

Your response is typical of the exaggerated and misleading rubbish spouted routinely by conspiracy theorists. Quarantine has been method of disease control since at least the 14th century when the plague was rife. You think it's a problem now? Consider passengers on a ship who have no choice but to stay in a plague ridden ship until everyone dies or recovers. And with no treatment.

Isolation of lepers goes back to Old Testament times. God initiated quarantine, just a little different from what we have now. Got Questions has this to say:

"Incurable by man, many believed God inflicted the curse of leprosy upon people for the sins they committed. In fact, those with leprosy were so despised and loathed that they were not allowed to live in any community with their own people (Numbers 5:2). Among the sixty-one defilements of ancient Jewish laws, leprosy was second only to a dead body in seriousness. A leper wasn’t allowed to come within six feet of any other human, including his own family. The disease was considered so revolting that the leper wasn’t permitted to come within 150 feet of anyone when the wind was blowing. Lepers lived in a community with other lepers until they either got better or died. This was the only way the people knew to contain the spread of the contagious forms of leprosy."

Leprosy is curable now.

So these are concentration Camps? Then please go back and realize what and whatfore concentration Camps were.

Because of 45000 infections today in germany 810 people will die.
Do you imagine the infectionrate without vaccine, masks, isolation, distance?
You dont want then carry away the death!

the vaccine does not stop the transmission of covid.
and. like i said. you are fine with people getting taken out of their homes and placed into a camp against their will.

human rights do not end when your covid fear begins.

so, now we should have covid colonies .


nice.

brainwashed individual you are.

So how long they have to stay in isolation?
14 days? 6 month, 1 year?rest of their life?

To compare this with a concentration camp Hits all those in their face which stayed in such a camp and suffered and died.

Psaki attacks DeSantis over Disney ending its vaccine mandate

DeSantis signed four bills last week requiring private employers to allow vaccine exemptions

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/psaki-attacks-desantis-over-disney-ending-vaccine-mandate