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If a Christian gets vaccinated for the covid Is this a lack of faith?

  • Getting the vaccination means the Christian lacks faith.

  • Getting the vaccination demonstrates love thy neighbor.

  • Other,I will explain.


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lawrence101

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The vaccine won't kill you.
That is a blantant lie , try telling that to Colin Powell and many others that died after taking that Satanic injection. Are you a wolf in sheep's clothing the scriptures warned us about ? The enemy comes to kill, steal and destroy, he doesn't care about your health.
 

lawrence101

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In the case of this vaccination propaganda time i wouldn't say christians lack faith
More not thinking for themselves and falling prey. Not seeing the signs and reading the bible. No awareness just blindly swimming with the flow. No caution and no awareness.
When the enemy comes to give his mark some day, the ppl who got the vaccine will be the first to take the mark too.
This isnt about a vaccine for a deadly illness. Its total control and moving towards NWO. Digitalising everything and knowing everything about everyone.
Bingo, this post pretty much nailed it, thank you.
 

Gideon300

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If they are forcing you, at the point of a gun, to leave your home, and dwell for an indeterminate amount of time, or any time at all really,

And you are with others in the same camp as you, that is by VERY definition a concentration camp, And they are by VERY definition NAZIS!


This is what you get, by not having EVERYONE stand against the fascists right from the start.

Those that have been compliant and speaking against those fighting for freedom, are exactly like the German people that said they "had no idea what was going on".
You obviously do not know what a Nazi is. Nazis are not fascists. They are different philosophically and politically. Try to get your facts straight before ranting.
 

PennEd

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If people testifying from hospital beds, desperately ill with a preventable disease won't convince you, nothing will.
If people warning about the lethal injection from the GRAVE doesn't convince you, NOTHING will:




Michael "Mike" Anthony Granata of Gilroy, California | 1965 - 2021 | Obituary

Michael “Mike” Anthony Granata February 21, 1965 – November 1, 2021
Michael, a longtime resident of Gilroy, passed away on November 1, 2021. Never a kinder more gentle man did I know than my husband, Michael.
For those who knew Mike, you know that he was a good and honest man. He was kind, considerate, and always polite.
Mike was adamant that people know what happened to him that caused his early and unexpected death. Message from Mike: “Many nurses and non-nursing staff begged me and my wife to get the truth out to the public about the Covid-19 vaccines because the truth of deaths from the vaccine was being hidden within the medical profession. I promised I would get the message out. So, here is my message: I was afraid of getting the vaccine for fear that I might die. At the insistence of my doctor, I gave in to pressure to get vaccinated. On August 17th I received the Moderna vaccine and starting feeling ill three days later. I never recovered but continued to get worse. I developed multisystem inflammation and multisystem failure that medical professionals could not stop. My muscles disappeared as if to disintegrate. I was in ICU for several weeks and stabbed with needles up to 24 times a day for those several weeks, while also receiving 6 or 7 IVs at the same time (continuously). It was constant torture that I cannot describe. I was no longer treated as a human with feelings and a life. I was nothing more than a covid vaccine human guinea pig and the doctors excited to participate in my fascinating progression unto death. If you want to know more, please ask my wife. I wished I would have never gotten vaccinated. If you are not vaccinated, don’t do it unless you are ready to suffer and die.”
Mike did not deserve the pain and suffering he endured. He was a good man and deserved better.
Mike was born in San Jose, California and moved to Gilroy at age one, where he resided for the last 55 years.
Mike attended Las Animas Elementary and Gilroy High schools. He graduated from both San Jose State University and Santa Clara University earning several scholastic degrees.
Mike was an intelligent man but never flaunted it. Mike chose to clothe himself in humility, kindness and gentleness every day, and preferred to work quietly behind the scenes doing good deeds and expecting nothing in return.
Michael was a licensed professional engineer and the owner of Engineering By Design, Design Engineering and Professional Engineering and Design. For the last 10+ years Michael worked in the Marine industry utilizing his IP for design and engineering that is known and used worldwide.
Michael could be seen twice daily walking his Golden Retriever around the neighborhood or up at Gavilan College for the last 20+ years in his jeans, t-shirt and hat.
Michael was proud to be a gear-head, a true car restoration enthusiast and tinkerer.
Mike loved spending time with his wife, his dog, his cars and playing the drums as he was quite a gifted musician.
Michael was preceded in death by his brothers Anthony Edward Granata and Salvatore Anthony Granata.
Michael is survived by his wife, Susie Granata of Gilroy, his parents Anthony and Elizabeth Granata of Morgan Hill; his sister Catherine Flowers (John) of Brentwood, CA; Nieces: Heather Trumbull (Christopher), Mindy Peterson (Ryan), Jeannene Brady, and Alyssa Granata, and great nephews and niece: Anthony and Trevor Peterson, and Karlie and Colin Trumbull.

Funeral:
 

kinda

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If they are forcing you, at the point of a gun, to leave your home, and dwell for an indeterminate amount of time, or any time at all really,

And you are with others in the same camp as you, that is by VERY definition a concentration camp, And they are by VERY definition NAZIS!


This is what you get, by not having EVERYONE stand against the fascists right from the start.

Those that have been compliant and speaking against those fighting for freedom, are exactly like the German people that said they "had no idea what was going on".
It's scary times. According to Alex Jones says, Pfizer is now in control of the military, national parks, and has more power than the president. If this is true, than corporate and government have merged, which is fascism according to fascist dictator, Benito Mussolini. Jones also says, the New World Order is here, and we can thank Donald Trump for signing off on the Pfizer take over. The next step is to make speaking against the vaccine or lockdowns, a crime. Fema camps for the patriots it seems.

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There seems to be many anti-lockdown protests going on, so it's not like people are not trying to bring awareness. I still think peace is the answer, but looks like civil war is about to break loose. I'm for peace though, not gonna take part in violent over take of any government.
 

lawrence101

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Some believe that getting vaccinated for the covid shows fear and a lack of faith and some believe that since GOD Is almighty,getting the vaccine even If It kills them shows love for their neighbor protecting them from the covid and GOD will look at their motivation for getting the shot.JESUS died for us and love covers a multitude of sins.
The fear mongering and propaganda is going to increase to the point where they are going to force the jab in the general public when they get the numbers high enough. Intimidation is going to get worse, loss of your job is just the beginning, fines and imprisonment are on the way. They will call you a small group of false christian anti-vaxx cultists and a danger to the general public and offer you a chance to change your mind. if you refuse you will be held in custody until they decide what they are going to do with you . ( Mark this post. )
 

lawrence101

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If people warning about the lethal injection from the GRAVE doesn't convince you, NOTHING will:




Michael "Mike" Anthony Granata of Gilroy, California | 1965 - 2021 | Obituary

Michael “Mike” Anthony Granata February 21, 1965 – November 1, 2021
Michael, a longtime resident of Gilroy, passed away on November 1, 2021. Never a kinder more gentle man did I know than my husband, Michael.
For those who knew Mike, you know that he was a good and honest man. He was kind, considerate, and always polite.
Mike was adamant that people know what happened to him that caused his early and unexpected death. Message from Mike: “Many nurses and non-nursing staff begged me and my wife to get the truth out to the public about the Covid-19 vaccines because the truth of deaths from the vaccine was being hidden within the medical profession. I promised I would get the message out. So, here is my message: I was afraid of getting the vaccine for fear that I might die. At the insistence of my doctor, I gave in to pressure to get vaccinated. On August 17th I received the Moderna vaccine and starting feeling ill three days later. I never recovered but continued to get worse. I developed multisystem inflammation and multisystem failure that medical professionals could not stop. My muscles disappeared as if to disintegrate. I was in ICU for several weeks and stabbed with needles up to 24 times a day for those several weeks, while also receiving 6 or 7 IVs at the same time (continuously). It was constant torture that I cannot describe. I was no longer treated as a human with feelings and a life. I was nothing more than a covid vaccine human guinea pig and the doctors excited to participate in my fascinating progression unto death. If you want to know more, please ask my wife. I wished I would have never gotten vaccinated. If you are not vaccinated, don’t do it unless you are ready to suffer and die.”
Mike did not deserve the pain and suffering he endured. He was a good man and deserved better.
Mike was born in San Jose, California and moved to Gilroy at age one, where he resided for the last 55 years.
Mike attended Las Animas Elementary and Gilroy High schools. He graduated from both San Jose State University and Santa Clara University earning several scholastic degrees.
Mike was an intelligent man but never flaunted it. Mike chose to clothe himself in humility, kindness and gentleness every day, and preferred to work quietly behind the scenes doing good deeds and expecting nothing in return.
Michael was a licensed professional engineer and the owner of Engineering By Design, Design Engineering and Professional Engineering and Design. For the last 10+ years Michael worked in the Marine industry utilizing his IP for design and engineering that is known and used worldwide.
Michael could be seen twice daily walking his Golden Retriever around the neighborhood or up at Gavilan College for the last 20+ years in his jeans, t-shirt and hat.
Michael was proud to be a gear-head, a true car restoration enthusiast and tinkerer.
Mike loved spending time with his wife, his dog, his cars and playing the drums as he was quite a gifted musician.
Michael was preceded in death by his brothers Anthony Edward Granata and Salvatore Anthony Granata.
Michael is survived by his wife, Susie Granata of Gilroy, his parents Anthony and Elizabeth Granata of Morgan Hill; his sister Catherine Flowers (John) of Brentwood, CA; Nieces: Heather Trumbull (Christopher), Mindy Peterson (Ryan), Jeannene Brady, and Alyssa Granata, and great nephews and niece: Anthony and Trevor Peterson, and Karlie and Colin Trumbull.

Funeral:
Excellent post, thank you.
 

lawrence101

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I got mine and I am good. Want to be able to see my Dad who has cancer.

I would like to see on the other hand if they are doing all this for Covid why not do it for all the other things out there too. I mean if they care this much about Covid then they should also make all healthcare free.
That should also raise a red flag.
 

Aidan1

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lets do some math, something you liberals seem to have lost all ability to do,

in germany, since march 2020, there have been about 5.38 million positive covid test.

82 million tests. that is about 7.5% positivity rate.

out of that 5, 38 positive tests, 4.65 million have recovered .

that leaves 629,500 active cases. out of a country of 84 million.

so, that is a less than a 2% chance of contacting a covid positive person.

in other words, low risk.
First of all i am not what you call a liberal!
Second you dont read what i wrote.
Third You are not realy realize the facts.
If you are staying at home and dont leave your house you have probably low risk.
But you forget to count the untestet positiv people from whom nobody knows they have it. This number is double or three times of the testet positiv people.
Btw today are 2,2% of the icu bed's in germany are free!!!
We have 3 000 000 unvaccined people older then 60 years old.
The antibodys of the oldage people which were vaccined first going down.
And we are just in the beginning of the winter time.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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That is a blantant lie , try telling that to Colin Powell and many others that died after taking that Satanic injection. Are you a wolf in sheep's clothing the scriptures warned us about ? The enemy comes to kill, steal and destroy, he doesn't care about your health.
Colin powel died of complication due due to covid and the cancer he had, He did not die because he took the vaccine

Its responses like this that just feed the conspiracy theory and make it so no one can actually believe you
 

Aidan1

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You are
If they are forcing you, at the point of a gun, to leave your home, and dwell for an indeterminate amount of time, or any time at all really,

And you are with others in the same camp as you, that is by VERY definition a concentration camp, And they are by VERY definition NAZIS!


This is what you get, by not having EVERYONE stand against the fascists right from the start.

Those that have been compliant and speaking against those fighting for freedom, are exactly like the German people that said they "had no idea what was going []


PennEd, what is a nazi by definition? Please explain me.
It seems to me, you have something against germans. And this 76 years after the nazi regime of Hitler.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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I saw this posted to facebook yesterday.

Sadly the first thing I thought of was BLM and antifa movements of the past few years. The Murder trial where an innocent man(Rittenhouse) was aquited, yet all you hear is how he got off. and all the riots that followed. and this topic.

But it seems so true and relevant to the extreme

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Lucy-Pevensie

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Vienna & Heidelberg have had some jabs administered in brothels. Free services were on offer to incentivise the public.

But don't worry, there is nothing overtly Satanic about the vaccination drive. "/sarc"

Save your breath if you have the urge to accuse me of "conspiracy theories"
The story ran widely in both mainstream and alternative news sources.
 

kinda

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Pharmaceutical giant Pfizer requested emergency authorization Tuesday for Paxlovid, a five-day antiviral pill regimen the company found to reduce the risk of hospitalization or death by 89 percent.

The announcement comes as covid-19 cases increase in many parts of the country, raising fears among public health officials that a fifth case surge could hit the nation during the winter. If authorized, the drug could help stave off hospitalizations and deaths that are already overwhelming hospitals in states such as Colorado and Minnesota.
With its promising findings, Pfizer also agreed to a license-sharing deal that would allow its experimental covid-19 drug to be manufactured more widely across the globe, giving more than half of the world’s population access to the treatment, the company said.
The Biden administration is expected to announce this week that it is purchasing 10 million doses of the Pfizer antiviral pill in a bid to add another tool in their pandemic response as the country heads into colder months.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/11/16/covid-delta-variant-live-updates/

For those who feel, that just 3 or 4 vaccines aren't good enough, there will be pills coming also according to this washingtonpost report.
 

PennEd

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Vienna & Heidelberg have had some jabs administered in brothels. Free services were on offer to incentivise the public.

But don't worry, there is nothing overtly Satanic about the vaccination drive. "/sarc"

Save your breath if you have the urge to accuse me of "conspiracy theories"
The story ran widely in both mainstream and alternative news sources.
Gosh!

I hope they were at least wearing a mask while receiving their Covid lethal injecti... er vaccine benefits!

We wouldn't want to promote risky behavior while having sex with a stranger!
 
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SophieT

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If people testifying from hospital beds, desperately ill with a preventable disease won't convince you, nothing will.
that is very flawed reasoning on your part

1. you seem to think people need to be convinced of what you believe while telling them you don't care what they believe. how's that working?

2. your very dismissive nothing will convince me, is simply a straw man argument since it is you that apparently needs to be convinced of the facts that have been presented regularly in this thread

3. since folks that have been double vaxxed can still catch and spread covid, your presumption that only those who have not had the vial of whatever are passing it on, is ridiculous but fits in with your narrative so you use it

4. myself and others have posted information, factual, about these drug companies that clearly show their very poor record of fudging results and even paying off researchers to hide negative results and you never address that. you gloss over anything that does not have your personal narrative which indicates you are not trying to be factual, but you are instead defending your own decisions

5. that being the case, why don't you stop trying to prove the facts wrong and just be at peace with your own choices since the evidence for harm and malpractice of the drug companies is overwhelming

6. this is not and never was about what I consider evidence presented by yourself....especially since you have nothing to back up what you say and I have provided proof of what I say...you constantly attempt to engage me in a personal manner....such as saying sick people cannot convince me therefore nothing will. apparently, you cannot understand that this is not about you personally
 
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