Donald Trump is part of the occult

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
37,490
6,929
113
Just like those who said they'd leave if Obummer was elected... and Bush W, and Clinton... people have been making that false promise for a long time now.
Hey, if they made that promise we should hold them to it.
 

JTB

Well-known member
Aug 31, 2021
2,270
737
113
That's not true, 10 months ago about 30% didn't think the election was legitimate, now we are at 70%. It is a gradual process.
Your source?
 

RolloTamasi

Active member
Nov 10, 2021
241
82
28
Donald Trump did not really want to be president again and his presidency was all a role to be able to change the governmental format and cause harmony between people.

Trump played the bad guy on purpose so he could cause Republicans and Democrats to fight with each other and cause dissension, and chaos, and violence between them because it was all part of his plan.

Trump told United Nations that America laid a path of peace and security and wants the nations to step it up and work for peace like America, and said the United Nations should take more of a role in the world.

He said he wants a global government but would like it patterned after America where the nations thrive next to each other and keep their sovereignty.

The only way a global government will work is if all people are equal social status wise, and all division is taken away between them, and a balance between communism and democracy, and a balance between atheism and spirituality which is the new age movement interpretation of the Bible and religions(1 Timothy 4:1-5; 2 Timothy 4:2-4).

179 nations agreed to United Nations Agenda 21 in 1992 which is sustainability, economics, ecology, and social, and to ban the police and the citizens become the police force and fight crime because police and citizen is a division.

The United Nations wants a global government by 2030 and Donald Trump is for the global government, and knows how it must operate.

Donald Trump wanted to cause as much dissension between the two parties as possible according to his plan.

Black lives matter was pushing a socialist, Democrat, liberal agenda, and Agenda 21 with equality, and defund the police, and sustainability.

The Republicans, conservatives started buying guns and ammunition because they thought there might be a civil war.

There was fighting in the government more than in the past, and they thought Trump was arrogant, crazy, and obnoxious, but that is what he wanted them to think for it was all part of his plan.

Donald Trump was a Democrat but became a Republican president for he could use that party to be the most violent, and aggressive, for they are patriots, will fight to defend the constitution, and more apt to have guns.

It was the best party to choose according to his plan to cause dissension and fighting between the two parties.

Trump played the bad guy on purpose according to his plan to cause as much fighting as possible between the two parties that would escalate so much that people would be against the fighting and want a change, and be tired of Republican and Democrat.

Trump wants to start a new party called the Patriot Party and that was his plan to be president and cause chaos and then start a new party that would have Republican and Democrats coming to it that has a balance between the two parties eventually causing Republican and Democrat to phase out and bring the people together with one party.

Trump is going to have a new party that will be compatible with how the global government will operate in the future because he wants a global government and he knows how it has to operate for the nations to come together, and causing America to be stronger and more of an influence in the world.

Trump sacrificed his character to be the bad guy and will end up being the good guy and restoring his character as he tries to harmonize the Republicans and Democrats with a balance between them.

The new age movement will pave the way to the beast kingdom in Revelation 13.

Trump is following the new age movement plan and they do not believe the New Age Christ will help them to establish peace and evolve to be spiritual until the nations come together as one to work for peace on earth and Trump is working on that.

The New Age Christ will establish peace in the Middle East and will work in the world as a great man of peace, and the greatest influence in the world, and will push the agenda of the new age movement until the world rebels against God.

Trump pushes for peace in the Middle East more than any other president and made his son in law Jared Kushner senior advisor, and in charge of negotiating peace between the Jews and Palestinians, and he goes by the Kabbalah which is an occult interpretation of the Old Testament where the new age movement has an occult interpretation of the Bible.

Which Jared bought a building with the address 666 Fifth Street in Manhattan, New York, for he knows the significance of numbers in the occult.

The occult believes in the power of numbers and the timing, adding, and grouping of numbers that give them more power through nature which 6 is the number of a man, or the soul of a man, so the number 666, a triple 6, means more power through nature.

Donald Trump is part of the occult and is going about to implement the new age movement plan to have a global government and produce the New Age Christ, antichrist, which they believe he will establish peace in the world, and cause them to evolve to be spiritual which they believe Jesus evolved to be an ascended master but not Lord and Savior.

666 is 3 words Chi Xi Stigma, which Stigma is something placed under the skin for identification, and service to the antichrist.

Trump introduced a biometric system for people on temporary visas that can track them and said if they had that in place 911 could of been avoided.

The purpose of Donald Trump was to cause fighting between Republican and Democrat and then start a new party which both parties would be a part of it which is a balance between the two parties that will be compatible with how the global government will operate in the future, and to make America more of an influence in the world.

Trump will look like the good guy, apologize for his actions as president, and restore his character, and the Republican party and Democrat party will both lessen in influence until there is only the Patriot Party and the people as one.

On the back of the dollar bill announcing the conception of a new order of the ages, and out of many, one.

They had to get them away from the attitude of the 1950's by disrupting the 1960's which they wanted the counter culture movement, and taking prayer out of school and teaching evolution because to them evolution is religion and they are still evolving to be spiritual and there is no personal God.

Evolution caused them to interpret the Bible and religions differently.

1.Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
2.Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
3.Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
4.For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
5.For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer(1 Timothy 4:1-5).

God warns the saints of the new age movement, and their interpretation of the Bible based on the occult, and evolution, and people are still evolving to be spiritual provided by the New Age Christ, and Jesus is not Lord and Savior, but a good teacher and love, and the Christ conscience came upon him, and he evolved to be an ascended master, and believe in no personal God, but honor the God of forces, or the power of nature as their higher power, the evolutionary process, and the New Age Christ is the final teacher, and they believe the Christ conscience will come upon him, and he will evolve to be greater than Jesus, and share this power with all people who follow him.

They will forbid to marry for a man and a woman for population reduction, and command to abstain from meats, reverence of nature, mother earth.

2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables(2 Timothy 4:2-4).

The time will come when the world will not want to hear the truth of the Bible, but want to hear it according to their own lusts the new age movement.

Donald Trump is part of the new age movement the occult and evolution.

Democrat and Republican are working together at this point so Trump will have both parties joining his new party.
Interesting, did you know that all born again Christians are part of the occult?
Definition:
supernatural, mystical, or magical (miracles) beliefs
All of Christianity falls into this category.
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
37,490
6,929
113
There was a recent poll on Steve Bannon's show, I think it was Rasmussen that some people said they thought the election was legitimate, some thought it was fraudulent, and some were not sure. Only about 30% felt it was legitimate. About 50% thought it was fraudulent, and about 20% didn't know. Not knowing if the election was legitimate is a very serious issue, that is equivalent to saying you don't trust the process.

Here is an earlier poll, although it doesn't show the 70% (about 56% who think cheating changed the election and another 14% who think it might have) it does show that the numbers moved about 5% over a 3 month period. So although this particular link does not confirm my 70% number it does confirm that little by little people are changing their minds. It even shows that 32% of Democrats think cheating may have changed the election. The other thing I would point out is that these polls have historically had a 4-14% bias for Democrats. For example I don't think it is necessary to think that cheating changed the outcome of the election for it to be a problem. I think they should include a question "do you think there was election fraud during the election" or "do you have complete confidence in the integrity of our election process" and even more important "would you support a forensic election audit in any of the States". It is much easier for someone to say they support an audit than it is to say they think Biden is illegitimate. So for 56% of those polled to say that is really stunning.

https://rumble.com/vnmtu9-rasmussen...eve-cheating-tainted-bidens-2020-victory.html
 

JTB

Well-known member
Aug 31, 2021
2,270
737
113
There was a recent poll on Steve Bannon's show, I think it was Rasmussen that some people said they thought the election was legitimate, some thought it was fraudulent, and some were not sure. Only about 30% felt it was legitimate. About 50% thought it was fraudulent, and about 20% didn't know. Not knowing if the election was legitimate is a very serious issue, that is equivalent to saying you don't trust the process.

Here is an earlier poll, although it doesn't show the 70% (about 56% who think cheating changed the election and another 14% who think it might have) it does show that the numbers moved about 5% over a 3 month period. So although this particular link does not confirm my 70% number it does confirm that little by little people are changing their minds. It even shows that 32% of Democrats think cheating may have changed the election. The other thing I would point out is that these polls have historically had a 4-14% bias for Democrats. For example I don't think it is necessary to think that cheating changed the outcome of the election for it to be a problem. I think they should include a question "do you think there was election fraud during the election" or "do you have complete confidence in the integrity of our election process" and even more important "would you support a forensic election audit in any of the States". It is much easier for someone to say they support an audit than it is to say they think Biden is illegitimate. So for 56% of those polled to say that is really stunning.

https://rumble.com/vnmtu9-rasmussen...eve-cheating-tainted-bidens-2020-victory.html
OK, how about an UNBIASED source (as if that still exists).
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
37,490
6,929
113
OK, how about an UNBIASED source (as if that still exists).
Regardless of the poll they all show that the numbers who do not trust that our elections are legitimate is growing. Anyone who understands polling realizes there is a very sophisticated science in getting an accurate prediction of what 350 million people think based on ten or twenty thousand.

Back on January 6th it is fair to say that it was only a portion of Republicans who felt that way, perhaps only 25% of the country as a whole. That number has grown to 69% based on the Quinnipiac poll which I would argue is going to be somewhat biased as some people will fear to say that to someone they don't know.

But it doesn't matter anymore, we have clearly demonstrated that ignoring this problem does not cause it to go away rather it has gotten worse and worse. Entire stadiums chanting F Joe Biden and Let's go Brandon is a symptom of this discontent. You cannot have a democracy where 69-70% of the public does not trust the election. The only way to get that trust back for the vast majority of Americans is a full forensic audit. Anything short of that like a "recount" only fuels the sense that the fix is in.

Claiming that it is anti american or anti democratic to question these results is total hypocrisy as we can point to 5 or 6 times in the past 5 years the democrats called for audits of the election or claimed the election was fraudulent.

This is no longer a few paranoid nut jobs but the overwhelming majority of Americans.
 

lawrence101

Active member
Jan 25, 2019
424
137
43
canada
Correct. And it is a shame that he caved when he could have refused to do so. He made some very serious mistakes, and now he is making another mistake by going back to the GOP which has betrayed him.
Donald Trump did not really want to be president again and his presidency was all a role to be able to change the governmental format and cause harmony between people.

Trump played the bad guy on purpose so he could cause Republicans and Democrats to fight with each other and cause dissension, and chaos, and violence between them because it was all part of his plan.

Trump told United Nations that America laid a path of peace and security and wants the nations to step it up and work for peace like America, and said the United Nations should take more of a role in the world.

He said he wants a global government but would like it patterned after America where the nations thrive next to each other and keep their sovereignty.

The only way a global government will work is if all people are equal social status wise, and all division is taken away between them, and a balance between communism and democracy, and a balance between atheism and spirituality which is the new age movement interpretation of the Bible and religions(1 Timothy 4:1-5; 2 Timothy 4:2-4).

179 nations agreed to United Nations Agenda 21 in 1992 which is sustainability, economics, ecology, and social, and to ban the police and the citizens become the police force and fight crime because police and citizen is a division.

The United Nations wants a global government by 2030 and Donald Trump is for the global government, and knows how it must operate.

Donald Trump wanted to cause as much dissension between the two parties as possible according to his plan.

Black lives matter was pushing a socialist, Democrat, liberal agenda, and Agenda 21 with equality, and defund the police, and sustainability.

The Republicans, conservatives started buying guns and ammunition because they thought there might be a civil war.

There was fighting in the government more than in the past, and they thought Trump was arrogant, crazy, and obnoxious, but that is what he wanted them to think for it was all part of his plan.

Donald Trump was a Democrat but became a Republican president for he could use that party to be the most violent, and aggressive, for they are patriots, will fight to defend the constitution, and more apt to have guns.

It was the best party to choose according to his plan to cause dissension and fighting between the two parties.

Trump played the bad guy on purpose according to his plan to cause as much fighting as possible between the two parties that would escalate so much that people would be against the fighting and want a change, and be tired of Republican and Democrat.

Trump wants to start a new party called the Patriot Party and that was his plan to be president and cause chaos and then start a new party that would have Republican and Democrats coming to it that has a balance between the two parties eventually causing Republican and Democrat to phase out and bring the people together with one party.

Trump is going to have a new party that will be compatible with how the global government will operate in the future because he wants a global government and he knows how it has to operate for the nations to come together, and causing America to be stronger and more of an influence in the world.

Trump sacrificed his character to be the bad guy and will end up being the good guy and restoring his character as he tries to harmonize the Republicans and Democrats with a balance between them.

The new age movement will pave the way to the beast kingdom in Revelation 13.

Trump is following the new age movement plan and they do not believe the New Age Christ will help them to establish peace and evolve to be spiritual until the nations come together as one to work for peace on earth and Trump is working on that.

The New Age Christ will establish peace in the Middle East and will work in the world as a great man of peace, and the greatest influence in the world, and will push the agenda of the new age movement until the world rebels against God.

Trump pushes for peace in the Middle East more than any other president and made his son in law Jared Kushner senior advisor, and in charge of negotiating peace between the Jews and Palestinians, and he goes by the Kabbalah which is an occult interpretation of the Old Testament where the new age movement has an occult interpretation of the Bible.

Which Jared bought a building with the address 666 Fifth Street in Manhattan, New York, for he knows the significance of numbers in the occult.

The occult believes in the power of numbers and the timing, adding, and grouping of numbers that give them more power through nature which 6 is the number of a man, or the soul of a man, so the number 666, a triple 6, means more power through nature.

Donald Trump is part of the occult and is going about to implement the new age movement plan to have a global government and produce the New Age Christ, antichrist, which they believe he will establish peace in the world, and cause them to evolve to be spiritual which they believe Jesus evolved to be an ascended master but not Lord and Savior.

666 is 3 words Chi Xi Stigma, which Stigma is something placed under the skin for identification, and service to the antichrist.

Trump introduced a biometric system for people on temporary visas that can track them and said if they had that in place 911 could of been avoided.

The purpose of Donald Trump was to cause fighting between Republican and Democrat and then start a new party which both parties would be a part of it which is a balance between the two parties that will be compatible with how the global government will operate in the future, and to make America more of an influence in the world.

Trump will look like the good guy, apologize for his actions as president, and restore his character, and the Republican party and Democrat party will both lessen in influence until there is only the Patriot Party and the people as one.

On the back of the dollar bill announcing the conception of a new order of the ages, and out of many, one.

They had to get them away from the attitude of the 1950's by disrupting the 1960's which they wanted the counter culture movement, and taking prayer out of school and teaching evolution because to them evolution is religion and they are still evolving to be spiritual and there is no personal God.

Evolution caused them to interpret the Bible and religions differently.

1.Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
2.Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
3.Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
4.For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
5.For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer(1 Timothy 4:1-5).

God warns the saints of the new age movement, and their interpretation of the Bible based on the occult, and evolution, and people are still evolving to be spiritual provided by the New Age Christ, and Jesus is not Lord and Savior, but a good teacher and love, and the Christ conscience came upon him, and he evolved to be an ascended master, and believe in no personal God, but honor the God of forces, or the power of nature as their higher power, the evolutionary process, and the New Age Christ is the final teacher, and they believe the Christ conscience will come upon him, and he will evolve to be greater than Jesus, and share this power with all people who follow him.

They will forbid to marry for a man and a woman for population reduction, and command to abstain from meats, reverence of nature, mother earth.

2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables(2 Timothy 4:2-4).

The time will come when the world will not want to hear the truth of the Bible, but want to hear it according to their own lusts the new age movement.

Donald Trump is part of the new age movement the occult and evolution.

Democrat and Republican are working together at this point so Trump will have both parties joining his new party.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say, Donald J. Trump will be the President of the USA during the millennial reign. Perhaps i've just opened a whole new can of worms ? or is it plausible ?
 
P

PrivateBadge45

Guest
Mr. Trump part of the occult? Evidence please.
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
37,490
6,929
113
Mr. Trump part of the occult? Evidence please.
I saw a wonderful documentary that provided irrefutable proof that Trump tower is a Temple to Baal.

I have also seen FreeMason hand signals that Trump has given repeatedly and do not look like an accident.

That said it is only evidence of the past and not of the present. Many people will repent and get saved, and many people get involved in the occult without realizing it (meditation, FreeMasons, Drug culture, etc).

If you want to search around Youtube for these videos I'm sure you will find them. I know that God's Roadmap to the End talks a little about the Satanic cults that have risen up. There is also a 5 hour video on FreeMasons which is very educational and I think references a little to Trump, then there is a 3 part video on the Great Babylon which does a wonderful job of showing that the US is the great babylon.

In the end it doesn't matter. Jesus is Lord, we don't follow any man and there is only one savior, Jesus Christ. Trump made promises and he kept them, that is a good thing. Satan is a liar, so you know who Satan is, he is the one who is a liar and a thief.