Vaccination?

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If a Christian gets vaccinated for the covid Is this a lack of faith?

  • Getting the vaccination means the Christian lacks faith.

  • Getting the vaccination demonstrates love thy neighbor.

  • Other,I will explain.


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eternally-gratefull

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We may not agree on everything on scripture views, but I do appreciate your Covid 19 views, and concerns. There should be a major investigation on why these athletes died, and possible connections to the Covid 19 Vaccines, or something else.
There should be an investigation as to why anyone dies. Not just someone’s view it was a vaccine

A side affect if covid 19 is heart issues blood clots and heart failure

I know. My daughter in laws
Mother died of heart failure secondary to pneumonia caused by covid 19 and diabetes. She dies within 3 days of getting sick. And she is not the only one I know

My sister in law also had to have open heart surgery due to damage to her heart caused by covid

All occurred before there was even a a vaccine available and were one of the main reasons I got the vaccine
 

PennEd

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That does not give you an excuse to break Gods commands my friend

Now your bearing false witness another sin. I never questions your salvation I questioned your motive. I just called you out for a sin you commuted against many of your brothers
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EG “ Keep it up bro. (Can I even call you than anymore) You just keep exposing your true heart.”

There are others I can dig up.

Care to apologize?
 

kinda

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1 I am high risk
2 I know 2 people who had same medical issues I had they are both dead
3 of all the people in my shop who got covid. I had minor symptoms and my wife had non
4 I am not the only one who has this history. A coworker was exposed to his GF. She had hardly any symptoms and he did not even test positive
5 I know if at least 5 other high risk people who had same reaction. Little to no reaction at all to covid
I was exposed
Everyone else exposed to the person got seriously ill
I was positive but had minor symptoms my boss was exposed and never even got sick


98% is national average it does not take into account age groups health issues and other possible issues which are unknown

If your just looking at that. Your not looking at the whole picture

It's a strong argument for sure, but hardly proves anything, well, at least in my mind. I'm glad you are doing well, don't want to give the impression that being healthy is a bad thing. lol
 

kinda

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There should be an investigation as to why anyone dies. Not just someone’s view it was a vaccine

A side affect if covid 19 is heart issues blood clots and heart failure

I know. My daughter in laws
Mother died of heart failure secondary to pneumonia caused by covid 19 and diabetes. She dies within 3 days of getting sick. And she is not the only one I know

My sister in law also had to have open heart surgery due to damage to her heart caused by covid

All occurred before there was even a a vaccine available and were one of the main reasons I got the vaccine

I think we are all entitled to have a view point, but it's very possible that not everyone agrees.

According to Slide 16 on the FDA slide of the vaccines, there are side effects. And talk show hosts like Alex Jones, has been predicting along with medical professionals on his show, that it will cause death and severe side effects, which happens to correlate with people dropping dead, like we are seeing now. I don't know for sure one way or the other, but definitely am skeptical of taking a drug that hasn't gone through testing for 10 years at least, that has a potential of helping a sickness that has a 98% survival rate. This is my stance. I think odds lean in favor to the 98% survival rate for healthy individuals, but for those who are at risk, I'm not stopping you. Just not gonna take a drug that is new, that hasn't gone through long term testing.

When it's 2030 and at least 50% of people are still alive after taking the Covid Vaccine, than we can talk how effective it is long term. Right now they are introducing new booster shots, for new strains, kinda like a yearly flu shot. Only this time, it seems mandatory. I managed to survive without major incident over the years without flu shots, so maybe this is proof, I don't need a new flu vaccine?!?!

If you worry about lives being lost, well let me know what the world is doing about the starvation that is happening around the world. Some estimates of 25,000 a people are dying a day due to hunger.

You can say, it's not related, but maybe over time, views will change.

Bob Odenkirk collapsed on set. August 2nd, 2021

https://www.medpagetoday.com/popmedicine/celebritydiagnosis/93859

March 27th, 2021 Bob Odenkirk gets vaccinated.

https://www.krqe.com/health/coronav...et-covid-vaccine-at-hispanic-cultural-center/

After writing this, we can just say, we disagree, and move on.
 

Nehemiah6

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In the process, they’re perverting science into something ruled by faith, speculation and biased opinion. The dangers of that are incalculable.
Yes, indeed. Science -- medical science -- has been thoroughly perverted. It is now 1984 medical science where:

HEALTH = SICKNESS
VACCINES = TOXINS
WEALTH = POVERTY
LIES = TRUTH
SLAVERY = FREEDOM
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Post 5252

EG “ Keep it up bro. (Can I even call you than anymore) You just keep exposing your true heart.”

There are others I can dig up.

Care to apologize?
Am not sI conSider my brother anymore.

That does not mean I think you are not saved, if your saved, your saved, eternal security is a fact.

But I do not think I would go to war with you. Or even walk in the same circle with you right now.. We are not united. And are in fact apposed.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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It's a strong argument for sure, but hardly proves anything, well, at least in my mind. I'm glad you are doing well, don't want to give the impression that being healthy is a bad thing. lol
Lol. Thank you

the issue is I had a choice.

If I did not get the vacc, and Those who appose it and tell me it does not good. And got sick. I could have died.

That thing is you can;t say the vacc did not help. And with so many I know who had the vacc and had the same outcome, vs the number of people who did nto get the vacc and got seriously ill or died.

Well lets just say it is WAY over 1 percent.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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I think we are all entitled to have a view point, but it's very possible that not everyone agrees.

According to Slide 16 on the FDA slide of the vaccines, there are side effects. And talk show hosts like Alex Jones, has been predicting along with medical professionals on his show, that it will cause death and severe side effects, which happens to correlate with people dropping dead, like we are seeing now. I don't know for sure one way or the other, but definitely am skeptical of taking a drug that hasn't gone through testing for 10 years at least, that has a potential of helping a sickness that has a 98% survival rate. This is my stance. I think odds lean in favor to the 98% survival rate for healthy individuals, but for those who are at risk, I'm not stopping you. Just not gonna take a drug that is new, that hasn't gone through long term testing.

When it's 2030 and at least 50% of people are still alive after taking the Covid Vaccine, than we can talk how effective it is long term. Right now they are introducing new booster shots, for new strains, kinda like a yearly flu shot. Only this time, it seems mandatory. I managed to survive without major incident over the years without flu shots, so maybe this is proof, I don't need a new flu vaccine?!?!

If you worry about lives being lost, well let me know what the world is doing about the starvation that is happening around the world. Some estimates of 25,000 a people are dying a day due to hunger.

You can say, it's not related, but maybe over time, views will change.

Bob Odenkirk collapsed on set. August 2nd, 2021

https://www.medpagetoday.com/popmedicine/celebritydiagnosis/93859

March 27th, 2021 Bob Odenkirk gets vaccinated.

https://www.krqe.com/health/coronav...et-covid-vaccine-at-hispanic-cultural-center/

After writing this, we can just say, we disagree, and move on.
I am perfectly fine with agreeing to disagree

My daughter in law will miss her mother on this holiday season. She will never know if her mother got the Vacc if she will be dead or alive. When people come out strong against the vacc and says it kills people, it is the mark of the beast, it is this or that

They offend my step daughter and the many like her who will spend christmas without their loved ones not knowing,

We are supposed to love people. Calling people who took the vacc stupid. Unlearned. Saying it is of satan and all the other stuff myself and others has been called here is in christlike. No matter what side you are on.

Thats all i will say.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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I think we are all entitled to have a view point, but it's very possible that not everyone agrees.

According to Slide 16 on the FDA slide of the vaccines, there are side effects. And talk show hosts like Alex Jones, has been predicting along with medical professionals on his show, that it will cause death and severe side effects, which happens to correlate with people dropping dead, like we are seeing now. I don't know for sure one way or the other, but definitely am skeptical of taking a drug that hasn't gone through testing for 10 years at least, that has a potential of helping a sickness that has a 98% survival rate. This is my stance. I think odds lean in favor to the 98% survival rate for healthy individuals, but for those who are at risk, I'm not stopping you. Just not gonna take a drug that is new, that hasn't gone through long term testing.

When it's 2030 and at least 50% of people are still alive after taking the Covid Vaccine, than we can talk how effective it is long term. Right now they are introducing new booster shots, for new strains, kinda like a yearly flu shot. Only this time, it seems mandatory. I managed to survive without major incident over the years without flu shots, so maybe this is proof, I don't need a new flu vaccine?!?!

If you worry about lives being lost, well let me know what the world is doing about the starvation that is happening around the world. Some estimates of 25,000 a people are dying a day due to hunger.

You can say, it's not related, but maybe over time, views will change.

Bob Odenkirk collapsed on set. August 2nd, 2021

https://www.medpagetoday.com/popmedicine/celebritydiagnosis/93859

March 27th, 2021 Bob Odenkirk gets vaccinated.

https://www.krqe.com/health/coronav...et-covid-vaccine-at-hispanic-cultural-center/

After writing this, we can just say, we disagree, and move on.
By the way I am not pro vacc or antivacc.

I know taking any medicine has side affect and one risks death or serious injury. No matter what you tak.

What I am against is all the nonsense from a few people in this thread and the hatred and name calling of people just because they decided it was worth the risk to get the vaccine

I am also against forced vaccines, I do not think anyone should be forced. I am also against shut downs and mask wearing.

there is evil going on, and people are taking this and trying to turn it to match and meet their own agenda and belief. On both sides.

And its wrong
 

kinda

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By the way I am not pro vacc or antivacc.

I know taking any medicine has side affect and one risks death or serious injury. No matter what you tak.

What I am against is all the nonsense from a few people in this thread and the hatred and name calling of people just because they decided it was worth the risk to get the vaccine

I am also against forced vaccines, I do not think anyone should be forced. I am also against shut downs and mask wearing.

there is evil going on, and people are taking this and trying to turn it to match and meet their own agenda and belief. On both sides.

And its wrong
Well, it's being forced upon pretty much everyone on earth. I know, since my decision of not taking the C19 Vax, some of my freedoms have been taken away, while others who take the shot, get freedoms I don't have.

So be it. It's in God's hands!
 
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Well, it's being forced upon pretty much everyone on earth. I know, since my decision of not taking the C19 Vax, some of my freedoms have been taken away, while others who take the shot, get freedoms I don't have.

So be it. It's in God's hands!
And I think that is wrong. This political rambling (in my view that’s all this is) is for the birds. Everyone wants to
Be the savior no one wants to take
Risks. If they opened it back up and millions die they do not want to risk that

That’s what our world has Come To and we all suffer

We are in the last days that’s for sure
 

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Well, it's being forced upon pretty much everyone on earth. I know, since my decision of not taking the C19 Vax, some of my freedoms have been taken away, while others who take the shot, get freedoms I don't have.

So be it. It's in God's hands!




May I ask what country or state you are in ?

I have had both vaccines and have NEVER been asked to show proof of!
I'm in the south in USA and haven't lost any freedoms or rights the rest of my country hasn't.

This biting each other and questioning relationships to the Lord is of the devil!

We each live by our own choices of consciences, so why keep baiting that it's gene therapy or killing young and vaccinated people. We do NOT have a health scan on anybody to know how near death they may be.......or not.

Death is no respecter of people anymore than God is. He alone knows each expiration date and I know of only one recorded man Hezekiah who prayed and got 15 yes more.
 

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Just not gonna take a drug that is new, that hasn't gone through long term testing.
And the evidence now shows that those who took the jab are ending up in hospital, when a vaccine is supposed to immunize you. But has Fauci resigned and ever admitted that he is Dr Death and has had a lot of fun at the expense of the public? Take a look at this article:
Fauci Admits That Hospitalizations Among the Vaccinated Are Rising, but Why He Likely Did Is More Telling
https://redstate.com/brandon_morse/...but-why-he-likely-did-is-more-telling-n478151

The spin which Fauci is putting on this is that these people needed booster shots. So now it is all about booster shots. And what happens when the so-called boosters do nothing?
 

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And the evidence now shows that those who took the jab are ending up in hospital, when a vaccine is supposed to immunize you. But has Fauci resigned and ever admitted that he is Dr Death and has had a lot of fun at the expense of the public? Take a look at this article:
Fauci Admits That Hospitalizations Among the Vaccinated Are Rising, but Why He Likely Did Is More Telling
https://redstate.com/brandon_morse/...but-why-he-likely-did-is-more-telling-n478151

The spin which Fauci is putting on this is that these people needed booster shots. So now it is all about booster shots. And what happens when the so-called boosters do nothing?
Do you have something personal with Mr. Fauci? Is he your government?
Doesnt matter whats name is of the president or responsable head of health department.
The result how to treat the virus would be the same.
The numbers of infections speak there own language, even you and others ignore it.
To do nothing and let the people die, what seems your solution, non for the people responsible government would do.
You hit all the doctors and nurses which are fighting against this virus under the risk of their lives and health in the face.
You better pray for them and the sick people then to spread such loveless claimes which benefits nobody.
 

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I'm not for or against the vaccine. I am against the government mandating taking it. In some states, companies are firing their people for making a choice for their own health care.
I care about people and their lives, but I believe each person should be allowed to make their own decisions on their health care, not some dude in Washington.
 

kinda

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And the evidence now shows that those who took the jab are ending up in hospital, when a vaccine is supposed to immunize you. But has Fauci resigned and ever admitted that he is Dr Death and has had a lot of fun at the expense of the public? Take a look at this article:
Fauci Admits That Hospitalizations Among the Vaccinated Are Rising, but Why He Likely Did Is More Telling
https://redstate.com/brandon_morse/...but-why-he-likely-did-is-more-telling-n478151

The spin which Fauci is putting on this is that these people needed booster shots. So now it is all about booster shots. And what happens when the so-called boosters do nothing?

Fauci went to Jesuit Catholic School, and college also. Joe Biden is Catholic and most of the Supreme Court is Catholic. The U.S. is controlled by Catholics. What do you think would happen?
 
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Well, it's being forced upon pretty much everyone on earth. I know, since my decision of not taking the C19 Vax, some of my freedoms have been taken away, while others who take the shot, get freedoms I don't have.

So be it. It's in God's hands!
that is not so

many are refusing to have it and more are joining in all the time

boosters into infinity is not a popular theme these days
 

PennEd

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Nehemiah6

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Fauci went to Jesuit Catholic School, and college also. Joe Biden is Catholic and most of the Supreme Court is Catholic. The U.S. is controlled by Catholics. What do you think would happen?
You missed "Catholic" Pelosi. But you've raised an interesting point. Add to that the fact that Catholic clergy are actively breaking immigration laws and facilitating the entry of huge numbers of illegals into the USA, and you have a very serious situation developing. Pope Francis has made it crystal clear that he wants to see nations and borders destroyed so that the NWO can take over.
 
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