Mt 24 To deceive the elect

I totally get abandoning the sins of the left. Immorality, abandonment of personal responsibility, enablement of the lazy, abortion, a/poly-theism... No, Christians shouldn't have anything to do with those, they're against Biblical principals. And Jehovah God Himself.

But there's this lie, this deception, this mindset that if you abandon one side, you MUST embrace the other side. It's the American way. It's one or the other.

And to embrace the right, one must turn a blind eye to their equally egregious sins. Mammon worship. Self idolatry. Greed. Cheating workers. Abandonment of the sick and poor. Lies and deceit. Those aren’t Biblical principals either.

And if you don't discern the sins of the right, then maybe you my friend need to pray with a more open mind.

But what concerns me is that only one of these two sides couches their actions as being "of God". And as such they are the more deceptive, because they are fooling the faithful and deceiving them. And leading them from the Truth.

This country will fall to the antichrist. God proclaimed it. An no one on the left OR right is going to change that. They are all leading us down the merry path to tribulation.

And anyone who follows them - left or right - is being being deceived and led astray.

I agree with your basic premise, but please remember that this is an international forum, and that most Christians don’t live in the US and don’t face this false dichotomy.

Right? Left? What about the politics of the Kingdom? Right! The Kingdom has an Absolute Monarch. It is not good to mix worldly politics with Jesus Yeshua. Follow Caesar or follow the Lord; there is not question

Right? Left? What about the politics of the Kingdom? Right! The Kingdom has an Absolute Monarch. It is not good to mix worldly politics with Jesus Yeshua. Follow Caesar or follow the Lord; there is not question

The right wing and the left wing belong to the same bird.

But there's this lie, this deception, this mindset that if you abandon one side, you MUST embrace the other side. It's the American way. It's one or the other.

There has always been a third option, but it has never been presented to the people. Anyhow the days of free and fair elections are over, so there is no point talking about two parties. America is now a de facto Communist/Fascist state, so elections are just going to be a joke. The Communist/Democrat party of the USA is making sure that it will always remain in power, and the RINOs are helping it along. The judicial system is now simply toeing the party line. Biden has already surrendered to China, so China could walk in and take over, and there would be nary a boo. Before that the politicians had already sold out to China, and shipped all the good jobs and industries to the Chinese. But the Chinese still think of them as useful idiots and foreign devils (gwailo), and will do everything to undermine America.

Putting aside your obvious bias, what do you see as a third option?

The Tea Party was more or less on the right track, but there was no need to take on that label. The Patriot Party would have been an excellent alternative. And Donald Trump had a golden opportunity to start a new party and leave the party of the RINOs behind. Instead he chose to throw in his lot with his bitter enemies, and they undermined him every day along with the evil Democrats. And he still has not woken up to the fact that the GOP is as useless as the Democrats. They were willing to throw him under the bus not once but several times, and now they have betrayed America and the Constitution.

There has always been a third option, but it has never been presented to the people. Anyhow the days of free and fair elections are over, so there is no point talking about two parties. America is now a de facto Communist/Fascist state, so elections are just going to be a joke. The Communist/Democrat party of the USA is making sure that it will always remain in power, and the RINOs are helping it along. The judicial system is now simply toeing the party line. Biden has already surrendered to China, so China could walk in and take over, and there would be nary a boo. Before that the politicians had already sold out to China, and shipped all the good jobs and industries to the Chinese. But the Chinese still think of them as useful idiots and foreign devils (gwailo), and will do everything to undermine America.

Except this is a world-wide issue. I think most countries are facing the same thing (or will be soon), maybe to different degrees, but it's not limited to the USA

In the Kingdom, God is sovereign. In the US, man is sovereign.

I totally get abandoning the sins of the left. Immorality, abandonment of personal responsibility, enablement of the lazy, abortion, a/poly-theism... No, Christians shouldn't have anything to do with those, they're against Biblical principals. And Jehovah God Himself.

But there's this lie, this deception, this mindset that if you abandon one side, you MUST embrace the other side. It's the American way. It's one or the other.

And to embrace the right, one must turn a blind eye to their equally egregious sins. Mammon worship. Self idolatry. Greed. Cheating workers. Abandonment of the sick and poor. Lies and deceit. Those aren’t Biblical principals either.

And if you don't discern the sins of the right, then maybe you my friend need to pray with a more open mind.

But what concerns me is that only one of these two sides couches their actions as being "of God". And as such they are the more deceptive, because they are fooling the faithful and deceiving them. And leading them from the Truth.

This country will fall to the antichrist. God proclaimed it. An no one on the left OR right is going to change that. They are all leading us down the merry path to tribulation.

And anyone who follows them - left or right - is being being deceived and led astray.