Christ has died for our sins.

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Hann57

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Not everyone can see the light of the gospel in 1 Corinthians 15:3,4.
Satan has blinded their minds so they cannot see it.
2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
Paul writes about this many times, how Satan can even be an angel of light.
2Co_11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
Even an angel from heaven that preaches another gospel.
Gal_1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

What goes on in people's heads when they hear the gospel ?
God has made his salvation simple, I am not hear to tell you what is wrong but to tell you what is right.
God was in Christ.
He took our sins on Himself and became obedient to death, even death on the cross.
That is a humbling truth for me to know that God loves me that much to offer Himself as a sacrifice that I may have everlasting life.
I know many more who can tell of what Christ means to them, having received this wonderful gift from God the moment they believed the gospel given
to Paul by our Lord Jesus Christ.

1Co 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
1Co 15:4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
 
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What was the GOSPEL given to Paul by Christ Jesus?

I find Matthew,Mark,Luke,and John to have the gospel or good news of Christ Jesus, do you?

This is where Salvation and the need to be born again is recorded.
This is where Jesus' ministry, purpose, death,burial and resurrection is recorded!

Paul and the other epistles were written to encourage,correct and edify the new believers,where there is neither Jew nor Gentile!

So do you believe and follow Jesus for salvation?
Do you follow the words of Paul for salvation who was an apostle and disciple of Jesus for the Gentiles?
 
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Hann57

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Gardenias said:
What was the GOSPEL given to Paul by Christ Jesus?

I find Matthew,Mark,Luke,and John to have the gospel or good news of Christ Jesus, do you?

This is where Salvation and the need to be born again is recorded.
This is where Jesus' ministry, purpose, death,burial and resurrection is recorded!

Paul and the other epistles were written to encourage,correct and edify the new believers,where there is neither Jew nor Gentile!

So do you believe and follow Jesus for salvation?
Do you follow the words of Paul for salvation who was an apostle and disciple of Jesus for the Gentiles?
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I have posted Paul's gospel that was given to him by Christ. 1 Corinthians 15: 3,4.
That is what you need to believe to be saved.
 
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OK.
You rock.on with Paul,and I'll stand on the rock of my salvation Jesus who is the cornerstone!!
 
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Hann57 said:
Not everyone can see the light of the gospel. What goes on in people's heads when they hear the gospel ?
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Matthew 13:18-23
18Hear ye therefore the parable of the sower. 19When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side. 20But he that received the seed into stony places, the same is he that heareth the word, and anon with joy receiveth it; 21Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended. 22He also that received seed among the thorns is he that heareth the word; and the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word, and he becometh unfruitful. 23But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it; which also beareth fruit, and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.
 
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Christ has died for our sins.
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Yes. That is a fact. Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, and rose again for our justification according to the Scriptures. Christ endured both the first and second deaths on the cross. But His sacrifice is of no avail to those who will not obey the Gospel. God now commands all men everywhere to repent and believe of the Lord Jesus Christ and be saved.

In order to see what actually happened at the cross, we need to carefully note what is written in Isaiah 53, Psalm 22, Psalm 69, and other related passages.
 
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Hann57 said:
Not everyone can see the light of the gospel in 1 Corinthians 15:3,4.
Satan has blinded their minds so they cannot see it.
2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
Paul writes about this many times, how Satan can even be an angel of light.
2Co_11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
Even an angel from heaven that preaches another gospel.
Gal_1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

What goes on in people's heads when they hear the gospel ?
God has made his salvation simple, I am not hear to tell you what is wrong but to tell you what is right.
God was in Christ.
He took our sins on Himself and became obedient to death, even death on the cross.
That is a humbling truth for me to know that God loves me that much to offer Himself as a sacrifice that I may have everlasting life.
I know many more who can tell of what Christ means to them, having received this wonderful gift from God the moment they believed the gospel given
to Paul by our Lord Jesus Christ.

1Co 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
1Co 15:4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
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So, let me get this straight?
God DIED?
Or pretended to....
 
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InspiredByGod said:
So, let me get this straight?
God DIED? Or pretended to....
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For someone claiming to be inspired by God, that is a rather bizarre question. Yes God died. Except He was both God and Man. And there is no pretending with God (like you are doing by pretending to be inspired by God).
 
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Hann57

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InspiredByGod said:
So, let me get this straight?
God DIED?
Or pretended to....
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2Co 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

Christ died for our sins. God was in Christ. That is what I read and believe.
 
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Hann57

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Nehemiah6 said:
Yes. That is a fact. Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, and rose again for our justification according to the Scriptures. Christ endured both the first and second deaths on the cross. But His sacrifice is of no avail to those who will not obey the Gospel. God now commands all men everywhere to repent and believe of the Lord Jesus Christ and be saved.

In order to see what actually happened at the cross, we need to carefully note what is written in Isaiah 53, Psalm 22, Psalm 69, and other related passages.
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You have mis quoted the gospel. It does not say Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures and rose again FOR OUR JUSTIFICATION ... very clever of you indeed. You have corrupted the gospel. Justification is not salvation.
Where does the scriptures say Christ endured both the first and second death on the cross. You are telling lies. Twisting the scriptures.
 
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Nehemiah6 said:
For someone claiming to be inspired by God, that is a rather bizarre question. Yes God died. Except He was both God and Man. And there is no pretending with God (like you are doing by pretending to be inspired by God).
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So God DIED, but DIDN'T die?
 
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Hann57 said:
2Co 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

Christ died for our sins. God was in Christ. That is what I read and believe.
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So God (the Three) was literally IN Jesus? And Jesus (the Trinity) DIED?
Just trying to understand you!
 
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InspiredByGod said:
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So God DIED, but DIDN'T die?
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Jesus said No man takes my life, I lay it down freely and I HAVE THE POWER TO TAKE IT BACK AGAIN! God can do whatever HE wants even die and come back. Just as every Christian will die a death and come back which is the hope of the church Because HE lives we shall (not might), Live also. Stop limiting God by human reasoning Our God lives outside human understanding and limitations.
 
Gardenias

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Hann57 said:
Change position ?
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You say gospel was given to Paul by Christ and that is the gospel we must be saved by.

I say the GOSPELS OF JESUS CHRIST are the first 4 books of the new testament.

( hmmmm,feel like I already explained this to you)

We are....NOT... disciples OF PAUL!
WE ARE DISCIPLES OF JESUS,THE SON OF GOD,HE IS THE ONE WHO DIED FOR US!!!!!!!

The epistles are for correction,encouragement, instructions and growth as WE FOLLOW CHRIST JESUS!
 
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