Vaccination?

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If a Christian gets vaccinated for the covid Is this a lack of faith?

  • Getting the vaccination means the Christian lacks faith.

  • Getting the vaccination demonstrates love thy neighbor.

  • Other,I will explain.


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Lucy-Pevensie

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Before anyone had even heard of Covid, the European Commission had started to plan for a vaccine
ID passport system to be in force by 2022.
https://ec.europa.eu/health/sites/default/files/vaccination/docs/2019-2022_roadmap_en.pdf

2018
https://ecdc.europa.eu/sites/portal...menting-immunisation-information-system_0.pdf

PM Boris Johnson in his speech to the United Nations, also took the opportunity to denounce so-called ‘anti-vaxxers’.
https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/pm-speech-to-the-un-general-assembly-24-september-2019


None of the above links are articles from Left or Right leaning news media.
They are simply government information available to everyone.
The protection of a vaccine industry and its products from public criticism should make any sane person
suspicious about the vaccines, what they are really for, what is in them & how long they've been planned.
 
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was trying to put together a new bed frame. I think I'm doing it wrong

 

Aidan1

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ahahahahaha


the health care system of ANY country is NEVER free. it is paid for. if it is all free, the care starts to decline because doctors do not work for fee anymore that cashiers at Wal-mart do

I know what I'm talking about having spent most of my adult life in Canada and now reside in the US

I have experienced both systems.

WHO IS PAYING FOR THE HEALTHCARE????

TAXPAYERS
Thats the point. You are in the US.
It is normal here that an employer payes taxes. But people who have no job get free health care and they dont need to pay taxes.
 
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I AM NOT SAYING PREACH FIRE AND BRIMSTONE!!

I said we need the Movement of God that kicked off that Movement back then.

And yes, TODAY'S PEOPLE ARE SO WUSSY WUSSY WUSSY INCLUDING CHRISTIANS, YOU CAN'T PREACH THE TRUTH OR THE BUTT HURT WILL BLEED!!

I Believe it is TIME for them to BLEED because we only have what...Months, days, weeks left? If we count years, maybe one or 2 at the rate Government is heading before we are in the Tribulation?

We have NO TIME left, so the Message has to be Real and Direct and to the POINT!!
WE DON’T NEED ANY OF THE SORT.

WE NEED TO PREACH THE WORD. The churches have gotten away from preaching the word and have replaced the word with 20 minute sermonette. Including fire and brimstone

Nothing different than what happened back then

A revival sticks. That so called revival did not stick. CHurches grew quick;y. But then quickly faded and lost people because everyone was preaching to them,. Not teaching them
 

Angela53510

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I wear a mask but don't cover my nose. Done it that way the entire time since this all started and I have never gotten sick. I don't wash my hands all time, don't wear glove touching shopping carts, doors or money, and touch my face and mouth often.

Not going to get vax. I'd rather get covid19 then trust what they are putting in the shot. This whole thing sticks of man and his evil plans for world and I want nothing it.
Actually, the mask is to protect others, not you. By breathing on everyone, you are possibly giving them COVID. Others wear their masks to protect you.

So, everyone wearing a mask properly is protecting you. Meanwhile, you are a possible super spreader event! Probably time to stop being so selfish, and put the mask over your nose.
 

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Actually, the mask is to protect others, not you.
No, it's design is to protect both the wearer and others.


By breathing on everyone, you are possibly giving them COVID. Others wear their masks to protect you.
I'm not breathing "on" anyone. I am at least 6 feet away from everyone and never sneeze indoors or around anyone. I also don't have COVID or any other disease. I haven't gotten sick or had cold or flu or anything in over 20 years and I have been in the same room with 3 people who had flu and I never got sick.

So, everyone wearing a mask properly is protecting you. Meanwhile, you are a possible super spreader event! Probably time to stop being so selfish, and put the mask over your nose.
OR others are the superspreaders! Also what I do or don't do is none of your business.
 

Angela53510

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In Ontario, Canada, where I live, in a couple of weeks they are making it nearly impossible to live comfortably. They are issuing the passport system preventing non vaccinated people from going to restaurants and other public places. At home my wife is pressuring me so we can still do things together. Some businesses and schools that the company I work for accept vaccinated only people. I prayed about it all morning asking God to guide me. Then the first thread I saw when I opened CC was this one.

Here’s my apprehension. We are truly fantastically engineered. With the advances in technology, can they intentionally or unintentionally introduce glitches in our biological, neurological and reproductive systems? Absolutely they can and do. Children have been born without limbs from medicines mom was taking. That’s what medicine does. It hacks the chemical reactions in your mind and body. Best case scenario, we all just get a sore arm and an immediate passing reaction. Worst case scenario, Luciferians discovered a way to bio engineer a hack to interrupt the communication signal between God and man. We would be like a phone without a signal. God has designed for illnesses to thin the herd. Man has designed ways to prevent natural law. I choose God’s design. When it’s time to die, you die.
Only a healthy ignorant person would say this! Have you ever heard of the Fall? We stopped being the perfect individuals we were designed to be on that day! The Bible clearly says death came into the world. Death by accidents, but death by many other things.

Ever heard of the Flood? No alcohol before then! It somehow got loose from the fountains of the deep. Today, alcohol kills many. Then there was the canopy. That was a thick layer of clouds which protected humans and everything else from excessive radiation from the sun. That's part of the rain which came down, emptying the canopy, forever.

Very easy to look at the age people lived in Genesis. After Noah, it only took a few generations, before life ages went from 900 years down to Abraham, who died in old age, at 175 years. His descendants lived less and less. I call it radiation mutations. Certainly, we lost the ability to live long, after the Flood.

I got pneumonia as a baby. So did 2 aunts in the 1930s. Guess who lived to tell the story, because of antibiotics? Not the aunts! In fact, I would have died of childbirth 3 times. And pneumonia probably 25 or more times, without modern medicine. Then there is asthma, which I had for 30 years. At one point I was getting breathing treatments in the ER daily for several years. Thank goodness for inhalers and prednisone.

We won't even get into RA and other autoimmune diseases. With the new biologics, people with RA live 5-10 years longer than before such meds were available. And without the pain and deformities RA brings! I'm incredibly grateful to modern medicine.

God did create us to live forever. But humanity destroyed that at several points in early history. God did not want me to die as a baby, or of childbirth, or lung diseases. He doesn't want me to be in pain and die if Rheumatoid Arthritis attacks my organs. A close friend from church died of Rheumatoid Lung Disease in Feb. she was one of the kindest people I have ever met. God didn't want her to die, but even the meds did not help. I have RLD, not progressing currently. But it may kill me in the end.

That's just my story. Millions of others have similar stories, of modern medicine helping them. The vaccines are part of that big picture. Not some kind of fatalistic nonsense about giving up and dying. I'm not worried about a vax hurting me, when COVID would kill me with my damaged lungs.

Who do you think gave those brilliant minds to people to do medical research? Not the devil, for sure! God has called many people, including Christians to be doctors, nurses, chemists, and researchers. The only groups I know that claim people should just wait for God to heal them, are Christian Scientists, a cult neither Christian nor scientific. And Word Faith people, who claim healing and then die, failing to listen to their doctors. A close friend of mine did that, when she got breast cancer. She did have a mastectomy, but decided chemo & radiation weren't for her, and claimed healing. She died a year later, insane because the cancer metastasized in her brain.

Are you in a cult? I choose life, meaning medical treatment!

"This day I call the heavens and the earth as witnesses against you that I have set before you life and death, blessings and curses. Now choose life, so that you and your children may live 20 and that you may love the Lord your God, listen to his voice, and hold fast to him. For the Lord is your life," Deut. 30:19-20a

God led me to healing, to medicines, and to eat well (closer to the way God made the food) and exercise. Vaccines are part of it! Die if you want, I'm pleased to continue to live and follow God!

PS Wearing my Carbon filter mask for 2 years in public, resulted in no COVID, but also no colds turning into pneumonia. The bottoms of my lungs are dry for the first time in decades, and functioning. And my allergies are done! I thank God for this help, and wearing a mask as the gov't ordered!
 

Angela53510

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And there are people like my daughter who was very sick with covid , never got the shot , and is over it...
Then my sister in Ireland who got the shot a month ago , and is still very sick?

It has nothing to do with love , it is a personal choice for every person , and my conscience says no , while others say yes , but I still do not understand why you would say what you said about loving our kids and grandchildren...

What about those who have took the shot , mothers and fathers , that have died , and their children are orphans ?
...xox...
Rosemary, you do what you want about taking the shot. But millions have died from COVID compared to thousands for the vax. I'm so glad I can take the vax. I have not had one side effect, not even a sore arm. The shot hurt less than weekly Cimzia shot.

Be careful with diabetes, as it raises the risk with COVID. 100K new cases of diabetes in the US last year in people who have had COVID. It also aggravates people who already have diabetes.
 

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Angela53510

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St Greta of the Climate Change Scammers claims that I don't understand ecology so I should shut up & let them manage the planet.
Many secular scientists say there is no God & I just don't understand physics.

I don't know a thing about building a car engine. That's why I have a mechanic. I do understand that if the vehicle doesn't start when I turn my key in the ignition the car isn't going anywhere.

I don't have to be an expert in every field to understand well when I am being scammed.



This is sheer propaganda designed to spread fear and guilt. We've heard it in the media daily for over a year. It's not Chrisitan.
It's psychological manipulation.
And this post is slander. By someone who knows nothing about medicine. Don't take the vax if you don't want. I hope you won't be one of the ones crying for the vax in ICU, when it is too late!
 
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