Do you believe the gospel given to the apostle Paul by Christ ?

It is not about how others interpret Paul's words. "Paul is said to appose Christ". The question is have you believed Paul's gospel for salvation? I made a point that Paul received this gospel from Christ. Don't focus on what others say. It is about your own salvation.

(1 Timothy 6:3-4) If someone spreads false teachings and does not agree with sound words (that is, those of our Lord Jesus Christ) and with the teaching that accords with godliness, he is conceited and understands nothing, but has an unhealthy interest in controversies and verbal disputes.

Yes, I believe it. Paul was an apostle chosen by the Lord. No different than any of the other apostles.

That is an important part of the Gospel. But the full Gospel is that Christ -- who is God -- died for our sins according to the Scriptures, and rose again for our justification according to the Scriptures. And that repentance for the remission of sins must be preached in His name.

Equally important are the truths that God the Father has made Him both Lord and Christ, and all power and authority in Heaven and on earth have been given unto Him. Therefore God now COMMANDS all men everywhere to repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ.

There is only one Gospel but it has several designations. Anyone claiming that there is more than one Gospel or bringing "another gospel" should be seen as false. For a deeper understanding of the Gospel, God has provided the epistle to the Romans.

Who are the many who interpret Paul as being against obedience?
Are we talking about individuals here or various denominations?

Is this the message Bible?

For someone that declares they are not a Christian, why would it matter to you?

Blik said: "I believe that Paul spoke exactly how Christ spoke"
Q: On earth? Or, From HEAVEN? = TWO Different Things, Correct?:
Precious friend, seems to be Many Confused denominations AND individuals:

Should they all not Love God's Truth, And obey HIM, Rightly Dividing It?:
Which of the following "distinctions" are we to obey, today in The Body Of
CHRIST? HIS WORDS "He Spoke on earth, To the Twelve apostles," OR:
HIS Words FROM HEAVEN, TO Paul, our "apostle Of GRACE"?:

Distinctions In God's Two Different Programs: Prophecy vs Mystery!:

Grace And Peace, Precious friends. The following may or may not be helpful.
However, thanks for your Consideration, and, Please Be Very RICHLY Blessed in:

Basic {and more} Distinctions of Prophecy vs Mystery:

First, Some Similarities: The LORD JESUS CHRIST, love of HIM, And
love of our neighbor!

LORD JESUS, please Grant us all Your Divine Help in our understanding of:

{ RDf = Rightly Divided from }:

God's Prophetic Program, Under LAW, gospel of the kingdom (past/future)

(1) Concerns a kingdom: a political organization
(Daniel 2:44; Matthew 6:10 KJB!)

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15 KJB!) From Things That DIFFER!:

God's Revelation Of The Mystery, Under The Gospel Of The GRACE Of God!
(Current = “But NOW!” Romans 3:21, 7:6, 16: 26; Ephesians 2:13 et al KJB!):

(1) Concerns A Body, HIS Church; a Living Organism
(1 Corinthians 12:12, 27; Ephesians 4:12-16 KJB!)

Prophecy:
(2) The kingdom to be established on earth
(Jeremiah 23:5; Matthew 6:10!)
RDf:

The Mystery:
(2) The Body {Church} Given a position in Heaven!
(Ephesians 1:3, 2:5-6; Colossians 3:1-3 KJB!)

Prophecy:
(3) Christ to be its King (Jeremiah 23:5; Isaiah 9:6-7 KJB!)
RDf:

The Mystery:
(3) CHRIST Is The Living Head Of HIS Body, The Church!
(Ephesians 1:19-23; Colossians 1:18 KJB!)

Prophecy:
(4) The kingdom prophesied “since the world began”
(Luke 1:68-70; Acts 3:21 KJB!)
RDf:

The Mystery:
(4) The Body Chosen In CHRIST "before the world
began," But “kept secret since the world began!”
(Romans 16:25; Ephesians 1:4-11, 3:5-9 KJB!)

Prophecy:
(5) Israel to be given supremacy over the nations
(Isaiah 60:10-12, 61:6 KJB!)
RDf:

The Mystery:
(5) Jew and Gentile placed on the same level before God!
(Romans 10:12, 11:32; Ephesians 2:16-17 KJB!)

Prophecy:
(6)The Gentiles to be blessed by Israel’s instrumentality
(Genesis 22:17-18; Zechariah 8:13 KJB!)
RDf:

The Mystery:
(6) The Gentiles blessed through Israel’s obstinancy!
(Acts 13:44-46, Romans 11:28-32 KJB!)

Prophecy:
(7) The Gentiles to be blessed by Israel’s rise
(Isaiah 60:1-3; Zechariah 8:22-23 KJB!)
RDf:

The Mystery:
(7) The Gentiles blessed through Israel’s fall!
(Acts 28:27-28; Romans 11:11, 12, 15 KJB!)

Prophecy:
(8) Prophecy mainly concerns nations as such
(Isaiah 2:4; Ezekiel 37:21-22 KJB!)
RDf

The Mystery:
(8) The Mystery Concerns individuals!
(Romans 10:12-13; 2 Corinthians 5:14-17 KJB!)

Prophecy:
(9) Prophecy concerns blessings, both material and spiritual, on earth
(Isaiah 2:3-4, 11:1-9!; et al KJB!)
RDf

The Mystery:
(9) The Mystery Concerns “all spiritual blessings in The Heavenlies”
(Ephesians 1:3; Colossians 3:1-3 KJB!)

Prophecy:
(10) Prophecy concerns Christ’s Coming To the earth
(Isaiah 59:20; Zechariah 14:4 KJB!)
RDf

The Mystery:
(10) The Mystery Explains CHRIST’s Absence From the earth!
(Ephesians 1:20-24; Colossians 3:1-3 KJB!)

Prophecy: gospel of The Kingdom!:
(11) In prophecy, salvation by Grace through faith alone is Not contemplated
(Matthew 28:19-20, 23:1-3; Luke 7:29-30; Mark 16:16; Acts 2:38; James 2:17 KJB!)
RDf

► The Mystery: *The Gospel Of The GRACE Of God!!:*
(11) Salvation “By GRACE Through faith” Alone lies at The Very
Heart Of The Mystery! (Romans 3:21-26, 4:5; Ephesians 2:8-9 KJB!) ◄

Prophecy:
(12) The proclamation of the prophetic program committed particularly
to the TWELVE (Matthew 10:5-7; Acts 1:6-8, 3:19-26 KJB!)
RDf

The Mystery:
(12) The proclamation of The Mystery program committed particularly
to ONE: Paul! (Ephesians 3:1-3, 8-9; Colossians 1:24-27 KJB!)

Prophecy:
(13) The prophetic program revealed through Many of God’s servants
(Luke 1:70; 2 Peter 1:21 KJB!)
RDf

The Mystery:
(13) The Mystery Revealed Through ONE man: Paul!
(Galatians 1:1, 11-12, 2:2, 7, 9; Ephesians 3:2-3 KJB!)

Prophecy:
(14) Old Testament writers frequently did not
understand the prophecies made through them!
(Daniel 12:8-10; 1 Peter 1:10-12 KJB!)
RDf

The Mystery:
(14) Paul Both understood And longed that others might
understand The Mystery CHRIST Revealed Through him!
(Ephesians 1:15-23, 3:14-21; Colossians 1:9-10, 2:1-3 KJB!)

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Be RICHLY Blessed!

Basic Distinctions between Prophecy and the Mystery! (C.R. Stam)

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I have further compiled More Distinctions In God's TWO Different Programs!:

Prophecy/Law:
(15) The TWO "Main" (of 12) baptismS =
A) water, For remission of sins!:
(Matthew 3:5-6; Mark 1:4; Luke 3:3; John 1:31; Luke 7:29-30; Acts 10:37)
(Matthew 28:19; Mark 16:16; Acts 2:38; Acts 22:16; Ezekiel 36:25 KJB!)

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B) "WITH" The Holy Spirit, Poured Out
By CHRIST, for power, signs And wonders!
(Isaiah 44:3; Matthew 3:11; Mark 1:8, 16:17-18; Luke 24:49;
Acts 2:17-18, 38; Acts 8:15-17; Acts 11:16 KJB!)
RDf

Mystery/GRACE!:
(15) Only ONE Baptism = "BY" The ONE Spirit = God's OPERATION,
Spiritually "Identifying" members In (The Body Of) CHRIST!!
(Ephesians 4:5; Colossians 2:12; Galatians 3:27; Romans 6:3-4;
1 Corinthians 12:13 KJB!)

Prophecy/Law:
(16) Forgive others FIRST, THEN God Will Forgive!
(Matthew 6:14-15, 18:35; Mark 11:25-26; Luke 6:37 KJB!)
RDf

Mystery/GRACE!:
(16) Forgive others BECAUSE CHRIST Has Already FORGIVEN us!
(Ephesians 4:32 KJB!)

Prophecy/Law:
(17) Taught how/what to pray! (Matthew 6:9; Luke 11:2 KJB!)
RDf

Mystery/GRACE!:
(17a) we Are Exhorted to "...Make our requests known Unto God!"
(Philippians 4:6 KJB!) While, At The Same Time, God "Teaches":

(17b) Concerning our infirmities, we "know Not" what to pray "as we ought,"
But "The Spirit Intercedeth FOR us, According To The Will Of God!..."
(Romans 8:26 KJB!)

Prophecy/Law { earthly! }:
18) "watchmen," { as CHRIST Told the Jews On the earth! }, looking for
The "wicked one, the deceiving man of SIN" And "signs" (Matthew 24 KJB!)
RDf

Mystery/GRACE { Heavenly! }!:
(18) ambassadors { As CHRIST Told Paul, From Heaven! }
LOOKING, WATCHING, And WAITING For! = The Holy One,
The LORD JESUS CHRIST {From Heaven! }
( Romans 8:18, 19, 23, 25; 1 Corinthians 1:7; Ephesians 6:12-18;
Philippians 3:20; Colossians 3:2, 4:1-3; 1 Thessalonians 1:10, 5:5-11;
2 Thessalonians 3:5; Titus 2:13 KJB! )
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probably more… But, sorry, for all the views of prophecy/Mystery =
only ONE gospel, and, Peter and Paul “preached” The SAME thing?:
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@Blik would have us "obey OPPOSITES" at the SAME time???:

Example: Can I Actually "SELL everything" {Christ's earthly Words} AND
"work with my hands to Give to them in need" (Christ's HEAVENLY Words)?
How Exactly does that work again???
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Conclusion:

“things that are Different are just Not The SAME,” correct?
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LORD JESUS, thank You For All Your Divine Help
in our understanding of Things That Differ!
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“Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that
needeth not to be ashamed, Rightly Dividing The Word Of Truth!”
(2 Timothy 2:15 KJB!)

yes Paul’s epistles wouldnt make a lot of sense if we ignore the four gospel accounts of Jesus and the kingdom ( the ones that account of his death and resurrection also as do the other epistles
as well as the law and prophets all witness of his death for sin and resurrection for life.

Paul would have nothing to preach if we remove the gospel , the gospel would have no foundation of faith without the law and prophets.

Some folks remove everything but a couple statements from Paul and then write books about “ the real truth “ but it’s already written for us

Pall is not against obedience

And no one here thinks this

Paul is against works to maintain or keep salvation. And trying to be righteous by works of the law. Which was not given for that purpose He wanted I’d to recieve and accept the new covenant.

You don;t like that. So you think we all hate obedience.

Paul has not his own message for he claimed not to know anything among the people but JESUS CHRIST AND HIM CRUCIFIED!
The message of the good news that all's sin debt has been paid for by God's ONLY begotten son by his death,burial and resurrection!
There is NO GOSPEL OUTSIDE OF THIS!

Paul,Matthew,Luke,John,Mark and Peter were Christ's disciples same as us today,messengers to carry the good news!

They as we should be are commissioned to spread it to all nations by study,prayer and obedience!

It seems to me this post explains how to read Paul correctly. Christ explains what Paul meant when he said we are under grace no law, Christ explained true obedience that Paul taught that expresses the love of Christ. When we know that through forgiveness the law has no power to kill us. We know what Paul meant when Paul said we died to the law.

Some say these truths mean we are not to use the law to guide us, but when we also follow Christ, we are told the truth of the spirit of the law and that Paul agrees with this. We can also know when Paul is speaking against still obeying the fleshly commands that were to help the Israelites but are not needed any more because the kingdom of heaven has arrived with Christ.

While Paul was against works in order to keep or maintain salvation, I believe that we have a statement in Romans 11:20-22, that if we don't continue in God's goodness, we will be cut off.

He also said he consider salvation a prize he had not obtained yet.He said the olympians train for a corruptible prize but we incorruptible prize

More specifically, he taught that he had not apprehended the resurrection from the dead.

Everlasting life, on the other hand, is obtained from the moment of first faith (John 5:24).

“Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭1:14-15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭6:9-10‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭6:14-15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God.”
‭‭John‬ ‭16:27

“But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil. Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful. Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭6:35-37‬ ‭KJV‬‬

the good news is much more than Jesus does and rose it is the gospel of the eternal Kingdom life after the death of our perishing body with Jesus in his kingdom.

“Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled. Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy. Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God. Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God. Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭5:6-10‬ ‭

the gospel of the kingdom is what is needed to hear and believe makes him our lord and savior forever and offers a promise of life everlasting

“And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭24:14‬ ‭KJV‬‬

that’s Abraham’s blessing for all
People the promised gospel of the kingdom

“And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭22:18‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham. ….Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

…For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭3:8-9, 16, 26-29‬ ‭KJV‬‬

the gospel that Jesus preached about himself and his kingdom is essential as well as its conclusion his death and resurrection is essential together with his word. We of all Nations who do this

“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:15-16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

are the faithful seed of Abraham ( father of many nations ) Who look to the heavens

“And Abram fell on his face: and God talked with him, saying, As for me, behold, my covenant is with thee, and thou shalt be a father of many nations. Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭17:3-5‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.”

We are offered a part in his everlasting kingdom when we believe the gospel

we are to be guided by the gospel not moses law it is contrary guidance for sinners

do we follow Moses ? Or Jesus



“Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:

But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment:

Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:

But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement:

But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.

Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:

But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.

But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭5:21-22, 27-28, 31-32, 38-39, 44-45‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The law of Moses doesn’t fit into the gospel different judgements for hard hearted stiff necked sinners . So it’s “ take an eye for an eye a tooth for a tooth life for life would for wound “ like Moses taught . That is not Christian doctrine

what Jesus taught is to not take revenge and payback but to forgive offense to
Make it right.

it’s. NO longer “ if your unhappy feel free to divorce and remarry “ like Moses taught it’s what Jesus taught now about marriage and divorce.

we can’t follow two laws or two mediators were only beholden to Jesus alone who paid for our souls the New Testament is all we need the old is for the old creation

there are several statements that tell us that . We don’t have to be perfect and can’t work our way without Christ but when we come to him it’s going to change our life and we then need to follow after where he leads

The law, even of the Old Testament, is written on the heart and in the mind of the New Covenant believer (Hebrews 8:8-10, Hebrews 10:16, Romans 8:7, Romans 8:4, 1 John 5:3, 2 John 1:6, Romans 13:8-10; Romans 5:5; 1 John 2:3-6).

Tit 3:3, For we ourselves also were sometimes foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving divers lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful, and hating one another.
Tit 3:4, But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared,
Tit 3:5, Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
Tit 3:6, Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;
Tit 3:7, That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.

Jesus gave us three very important commands to follow which absorbs the Mosiac law.
Love God with all you heart,mind and soul
Love your neighbor as yourself for these are they which hang ALL THE LAW and prophets.
Love one another for by thus shall they KNOW YOU ARE MY DISCIPLES!
I am not an Hebrew so the 600 or so laws given to the Jewish nation are not applicable to me.
I live under the new covenant given to ALL mankind by Jesus!

BTW those verse in Titus you seem to use frequently don't support your statement about the OT law!