Vaccination?

I don't know, the US government seems to have selective outrage where our money goes. If our money somehow gets into the hands of people from sanctioned countries, terrorist organizations, or organized crime then they might send law enforcement to drag us to jail.

Yet when we buy from places that sale products produced from slavery or child labor then no one seems to care. That doesn't change the fact that purchasing items from a merchant that could be aiding and abetting slavery/child labor is wrong.

This is what having a conscience seared with a hot iron feels like; despite knowing these sad and sobering truths, some people feel nothing.

I saw an old quote recently, “It’s not the number of years in a life, it’s the life in those years.”

I accompanied my grandson to a few churches after his remission, to thank them for their prayers. He said things that touched so many, including myself. If one looks too far ahead, they can miss what’s at their feet.

The Chinese are outspoken about how and who manufacture the things we import into the US(there cheap because slaves make them) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laogai

I see you are in the knowing more than the rest of us. I will let you talk to yourself I have injected you with "I.N.G.O.R.E

There is one person telling everyone just because they did not die from the jab means:

your reasoning for not wanting it is unfounded. what possible concerns a person may have do have:

• going to have a baby not wanting to get one while pregnant
• the heal-care workers did not have one the whole time they saved lives per to test instead
• Those under a doctors care told they are not to get it
• religious exemptions
• Have already had COVID-19 and do not need the vaccine

You people who disagree with this. That is not seeking what is best for "your fellow man" that is control.

and placed you ignore

let me help you with your arrogant ignorance

anti-vaxxer is a term that would apply to people who refuse ALL vaccinations. therefore, it is ignorant to call all those who refuse or do not want, to take the experimental vaccine an anti-vaxxer.

I have had numerous vaccines growing up and several as an adult. As an adult, I understand that not willing to take one certain vaccine, an experimental one at that, does not make me an anti-vaxxer.

I find it troubling that an individual, such as yourself, creates the 2 posts above and mocks while it is a fact that a good number of people have actually died from the covid shot and many more have had some pretty awful side effects and are in hospital because of it.

you seem to have a problem engaging your brain in your haste to declare yourself free and clear and still here. you do not know the long term side effects and continually stating you are still alive in the face of those whose loved ones are not, because of the vaccine, hardly classifies you as a caring person, let alone a Christian

and bragging is never good in either case

perhaps the correct term for people like you is anti-knowledge and lacking in the wisdom they should have while stating they are a believer

your opinions and personal experience do not qualify you as someone's doctor or a virologist or the manufacturer of these shots....who have actually posted all the side effects, including possible death, on their site....Pfizer in this case, since that is one people wrongly assume has been cleared by the FDA

just because you are pounding your chest to be noticed and making alot of noise, does not mean you actually have any sway in the real world

Do you remember the AIDS Epidemic of the 1980's?

We thought touching same glass, that using same toilet, many many false things that resulted in a 9 year Indiana boy being threatened and denied access to school after it was learned his Blood Transfusion was done with infected AIDS. That young man was tortured for the short period of time he had left upon this Earth.

Do you know who was head of Infectious Viruses back in the 1980's like now 2021?

Fauci



Now, today, people have hiv and can live a long life that others can be around without worrying about such contact issues like back then.

My point is, every NEW VIRUS/Bio-Weapon released, has a learning curve.

You act like the Jews just ran to the Nazi Headquarters and turned themselves in.
They were HUNTED like animals with traps set everywhere to deny their escape.

ODD!

No matter how I click the search or copy/paste or type it in myself, this Site does not load and exist.

Except those that found sanctuary in the homes decent Christians that didn’t interpret Romans 13 the same way as the lethal injection cheerleaders.

So, protecting a life by hiding someone the Government [has condemned to Death at a 100% Rate], is the same [scenario] as a President knowing his Nation of 400 Million is facing a Bio-Weapon Attack from the Chinese Government and believes the Trump FDA Approved Vaccine is the BEST WAY to Combat it?

Hmmm, interesting Logic!

Yes.

Volodymyr Salo: 19-year-old Ukrainian student gets Pfizer mRNA injection behind his family’s back, dead seven hours later

https://thecovidblog.com/2021/09/25...hind-his-familys-back-dead-seven-hours-later/

For the sake of examples to bring to the conversation, how do you answer to these observations:

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/30-facts-you-need-know-covid-cribsheet

I am new here so sorry for jumping in. I have been struggling on the decision myself. I have sincere Religious beliefs why I do not believe in the vaccine. I understand why people do and do not want to get the vaccine. I feel people should have the right to decide. As far as the questions I do not feel that getting the vaccine demonstrates love thy neighbor as me being vaccinated in no way protects someone unvaccinated. I can be vaccinated and still carry as much or even higher viral load than someone unvaccinated. Personally I feel more comfortable around unvaccinated people. At least from what they are telling me that most vaccinated has no symptoms, at least compared to unvaccinated. If the vaccine stopped transmission and stopped someone from getting covid then yes I feel it would be love thy neighbor but science clearly says it doesn't. The argument can be made but yes it will keep you out of the hospital and more beds for other people so yes that would be love thy neighbor. Sadly from what Israel is starting to tell us more and more vaccinated are going into hospitals at an increasing rate but who knows with all the different information out there. As far as getting vaccinated lacks Christian faith I don't believe I can judge anyone else so I would not judge someone that got the vaccine and believe that they lack Christian faith. Just a tough choice all around. Thank you.

makes sense to me

the thing is, don't let yourself be bullied into something your better judgement tells you not to do

talk it over with your doctor

I am not anti vaccine. i believe the vaccine for polio was a great thing. i am not against medicine or getting help from doctors, but i believe in research and being wise.
The doctors told people it was safe to smoke cigarettes, and the doctors prescribed thalidomide and look at the out come of that.
It is up to each person to determine in their own heart what is best for them and those around them.
The moral issue i have is the fact that if you do not get a vaccine you are forced to quit your work, forced to not travel, and forced to isolate (not able to go to church). The vaccine passport is wrong and no one has the right to force people to get the vaccine.

Well in princip you are right, nobody can force you to take the vaccine. But it will become a problem when the majority took the vaccine. And if the goverment gives the vaccined people the possibility for travel and so on, back. The unvaccined become to a risk for the community.
If you want stay unvaccined then you have to be ready to bear the consequences.
In small is it that what will come in Future (Rev. 13) in germany next month, the people have to pay their pcr Tests from their own pocket. Possibility to get the vaccine Was there but they rejectet. Why the taxpayer should pay now for those which reject the Vaccine?
Its all not nice. Its also not nice to get Covid or spread it.

The Russians (including Ukraine) is using Sputnik and not Pfizer.

Sputnik, Sinopharm, Johnson and Johnson, and AstraZeneca all use the HK cell lines (derived from fetal tissue) that are 50-70 years old now.

So most likely correlation is not causation....if there was any deaths caused by taking vaccines they would have investigated it to the nth degree.

As it is this is more conspiracy theory nonsense.