PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE GET THE COVID SHOT.

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Aidan1

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Simply unbelievable!

There has been literally THOUSANDS of posts with an avalanche of proof!


Just because YOU don’t accept the proof, doesn’t mean it isn’t there.
A assumption is no proof!
There is no proof that the vaccine depopulate the mankind.
There is no proof that the vaccine change the dna.
There is no proof that the vaccine change our relationship with our heavenly father.
There is no proof, that the vaccine sterilise people.
It is true, the vaccine is not to 100% protecting you from the virus.
It is true that the vaccine has sideeffects.
But it is also true that the virus has massive stronger sideeffects and much more deaths then the vaccine.
This is proofable! Your claims are not!
 

gb9

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A assumption is no proof!
There is no proof that the vaccine depopulate the mankind.
There is no proof that the vaccine change the dna.
There is no proof that the vaccine change our relationship with our heavenly father.
There is no proof, that the vaccine sterilise people.
It is true, the vaccine is not to 100% protecting you from the virus.
It is true that the vaccine has sideeffects.
But it is also true that the virus has massive stronger sideeffects and much more deaths then the vaccine.
This is proofable! Your claims are not!

this is also easily provable-

in your country, germany, the survival rate is 97. 8%.


your infection rate is 7%.

so, a 2.2 percent chance of covid being fatal, a 93 percent chance you do NOT have covid if tested, so this " no hope except for a vax " is such a lie......
 

Aidan1

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this is also easily provable-

in your country, germany, the survival rate is 97. 8%.


your infection rate is 7%.

so, a 2.2 percent chance of covid being fatal, a 93 percent chance you do NOT have covid if tested, so this " no hope except for a vax " is such a lie......
So let the 2.2 % ( 1760000)people die, no problem. The pitty is nobody knows who belongs to the 1760000.
For an follower of Christ I would expect more love for the neighbour then your post reveals.
 
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SophieT

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So let the 2.2 % ( 1760000)people die, no problem. The pitty is nobody knows who belongs to the 1760000.
For an follower of Christ I would expect more love for the neighbour then your post reveals.
oh stop with the "I am a better Christian than you are' nonsense. I would expect LESS judgement from someone who considers themself such a shining star exhibit of Christianity

can you string together three sentences without invoking the name of Christ to hide behind?

talk about virtue signalling...it's like you invented it :rolleyes:
 

Gideon300

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the same australian gov. that locks it's people in their homes, and has them arrested and at times beaten by cops if they do not comply.

i cannot say on a Christian website what i think of the aussie gov.
Do you live here? Did you see the whole incident? I've been here since 1965. I know a cop personally. It is oh so easy to manipulate video to make it look a lot worse than it is. I am no fan of the closet Marxist that runs the state of Victoria. The sooner he gets voted out, the better. But the cops have an impossible job. There are some bad eggs. We've had a run in with a couple who were total jerks. Just like every other walk of life.

There are laws. Break them and there are consequences. Try comparing the COVID death rate here to good ole USA. Last count I saw was 675,000 new graves. We have had around 1,200. America 340 million. Australia 26 million. Do the math. OK, I'll do it. USA death rate is around 0.5%. Australia's about .005%.

These are real people, not statistics. You have 10x the chance of dying from COVID in the most advanced country in the world. Now a bunch of ignorant losers want to drag Australia into the same arena as the USA. And some of the crowd are not ignorant. They are out to destroy society to achieve their own agenda.

Perhaps you look at the medical bills Americans are paying for COVID treatments. It's beyond incredible. Perhaps you might think of the families of sufferers or the guilt of those who infected close relatives. Lock down is nothing compared to a life time of "if only..."
 

Gideon300

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the same australian gov. that locks it's people in their homes, and has them arrested and at times beaten by cops if they do not comply.

i cannot say on a Christian website what i think of the aussie gov.
As an addition to my previous remarks, your statement is completely irrelevant to my post. Facts are facts, whether you like the source or not.
 

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You need to learn a little about the differences between RNA and DNA. The vaccines do exactly what vaccines have always done. They trick the immune system into producing antibodies against the real thing. Genes are not modified. It's just a different method of achieving the same result. I'm happy about that. The last flu shot I had was decades ago. It was a killed virus vaccine. I was as sick as if it were the real flu. It me months to decide to get the COVID jab. Side effects were minimal and I'm exactly the same person as I was before I had the jab.

"There is a crucial difference between mRNA and DNA.

DNA, which makes up our genetic code, is larger, double stranded and very long. The mRNA is a single stranded copy of a small part of the DNA, which is often released to send instructions to other parts of the cell.

DNA is stored in the protected centre of our cells – the nucleus. The mRNA is broken down quickly by the body. It never enters the nucleus, and cannot affect or combine with our DNA in any way to change our genetic code.

Instead, COVID-19 mRNA vaccines teach the cell how to make a protein that triggers an immune response specific to COVID-19. The vaccines work with the body’s natural defences to develop immunity to disease."

Source: Australian Government department of Health
Why do you care if someone gets vaccinated? You say these things do the exact same things that other vaccines do. Why is it that other vaccines take 12 years before getting full approval and this one doesn't?

The goal may appear the same but the path they take to achieve that goal is quite different.

With all other vaccines they had animal trials which were skipped for this vaccine that is different.

All other mRNA vaccines for corona viruses were stopped in clinical trials, that is another distinction between this and all other vaccines.

A vaccine used to be defined as making you immune to something, unable to catch it or transmit it. So they had to change the definition of a vaccine just for this one.

You make it seem like this vaccine is no different than all others when it is clearly quite different.

Generally we don't mandate a vaccine, especially to all people from children to the elderly, never before it has been fully approved after 12 years, and when we do it works. People who get vaccinated don't get sick and don't transmit the disease. So there are lots and lots of things about this that are different. Then consider the people who are hesitant to get it, among teachers I heard there are 10,000 teachers in NYC who still haven't been vaccinated even though today is the deadline. Every teacher was required to have certain shots before teaching so these are not "anti vaxxers", every teacher in NYC is required to have a Master's degree to be certified, so these are not uneducated people.

Why does someone in Australia care about whether or not someone in NYC gets a vaccine? I can see you wanting them vaccinated before coming to Australia but I am pretty sure none of them want to go to Australia, at least not right now. So why do you care?
 
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Lock down is nothing compared to a life time of "if only..."
you know, in the beginning, I followed all the 'rules' but determined I would not get the shot due to the side effects from the shot I had to have when I became a permanent resident of the US some years back. thank God, literally, I no longer have the hives and itching I had to endure for over 2 years.

I wore the mask in stores and what not....I distanced.....I was a very good little girl. I would be happy to hide in my house to get rid of this thing....but I honestly do not think 'they' want us to get rid of this thing

just when it looked like we might, HORDES of illegals started pouring over the southern border, since baby boy Biden's main aim in life seems to be to annihilate every single thing Trump ever did (well the folks behind Biden are very encouraging along those lines, especially the big O since his legacy was negated by Trump pretty much).

many covid positive, very few vaccinated and tests? duh...what tests? around the same time, new strains appeared and hot spots and pretty soon we have mandates, masks and morally obligated boosters just to keep people in fear

oh but the thousands of nothing to do but riot kiddies last summer could get away with no masks and so why not the illegals?

what a joke

it's enough

it's my body, my choice

I have not used the word 'hoax' yet, but how about easily preventable at one point and now deliberately reintroduced
 

Aidan1

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oh stop with the "I am a better Christian than you are' nonsense. I would expect LESS judgement from someone who considers themself such a shining star exhibit of Christianity

can you string together three sentences without invoking the name of Christ to hide behind?

talk about virtue signalling...it's like you invented it :rolleyes:
Is CC a Christian side? Then you should expect Christian values, right. Sister?
 

Solemateleft

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As for me Soulmate I can't really give my time listening to a source like this. Here's something else further down on that site about her opinions,

"This is the full 12 part series on Dr. Day’s Best Selling Book.

Dr. Lorraine Day gets it and hopefully you will too after listening to her.

We are in a spiritual war between the sons of darkness (Satan, the fallen angels, the demons and the devil’s children, the Jews who are Edomites) against the sons of light (God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob, His son Jesus the Christ and the His Holy Seed, the white race who are the real Tribes of Jacob surnamed Israel plus all non Caucasian Christians grafted in)."


To bizarre for me.
 
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Thank you for all this Informations. I had never before researched about this stuff.
The technic and abilities are changing and make it in Future easier to control people. Thats what revealation 13 says.
But I am not covinced that this will be done through the vaccines against Covid, which we have already received.
So to damn the vaccine is in my eyes without proof and an expression of fear.
Nothing can separate us from our father in heaven. No vaccine and no sign of the beast.
So it is no sin to take the vaccine, nor to reject the vaccine. But to get the vaccine is in my eyes more to avoid that others will be sick from the virus, then to avoid the vaccine.
You’re welcome brother. Happy to share it. Its enjoyable to discuss these issues even when we disagree.
 

Dude653

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this is also easily provable-

in your country, germany, the survival rate is 97. 8%.


your infection rate is 7%.

so, a 2.2 percent chance of covid being fatal, a 93 percent chance you do NOT have covid if tested, so this " no hope except for a vax " is such a lie......
Try going to the hospital for a non-covid-related health problem and being turned away because they don't have a bed for you. Because they're flooded with covid patients because people are too stubborn to get vaccinated..... Or I don't want to go on lockdown because my state has the highest Kobe numbers in America right now again because people are too stubborn to get vaccinated
There are also mountains of evidence that prove the vaccine works since you want to talk about evidence
 

Solemateleft

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Tune into One American Network News (OANN) on your TV to watch
The Health and Freedom Conference Underway in Colorado Springs...
 

gb9

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Try going to the hospital for a non-covid-related health problem and being turned away because they don't have a bed for you. Because they're flooded with covid patients because people are too stubborn to get vaccinated..... Or I don't want to go on lockdown because my state has the highest Kobe numbers in America right now again because people are too stubborn to get vaccinated
There are also mountains of evidence that prove the vaccine works since you want to talk about evidence

well, i just checked the actual hospital numbers in tenn. , and your state has been in steady decline of covid cases since sep. 9, and as of yesterday, tenn. had about 1300 hospital beds open statewide.


maybe you look at actual information instead of just throwing out liberal talking points.....
 
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