Vaccination?

Brother I must say You are obviously not spreading the truth about the vaccination.
As you say, the Lord knows all things.
May he bless you

Ok so tell me

What virus causes people to lose taste and smell. Some for over a year now

What virus causes headaches so severe you sleep in a dark room for over 10 hours because you cant get any relief

what virus causes blood clots and damage to the heart, and would cause a doctor who found out you you had covid out of worry sends you to a specialist only to find out you have valve damage in you heart and you need to have surgery to repair it?

what virus causes a heart attach and pneumonia which is so bad your breaking swells and your family has to wait over 8 days until the swelling goes down until they can do a ct scan only to find out their mother was probably brain dead before the ambulance took her out f the house

what virus causes a young man in his late 20’s to get so ill, and lose so much strength that he is unable to do his job for over 6 months because he can’t catch his breath

I can go on and on and on

You can post articles all over this chat room until your blue in the face. I will not believe a word of it. I HAVE PERSONALLY WITNESSED PEOPLE WHO HAVE EXPERIENCED THE ABOVE SYMPTOMS AND MORE

Experience trumps conspiracy theories my friend.

You can believe what you want, But when you come and try to tell people this virus is a fake. Your wrong dude. Your wrong! And you can expect people (unless they want to believe you) to not believe a thing you say.

When I see people needlessly die because of conspiracy theories about a vaccine that could have saved them.

I tend to lose it..

Let’s just pray the republican don;t make the same mistakes the dems did.

And this proves what?

Did I argue against any particular vaccine or argue that a vaccine was or was not the same vaccine?

Please try to listen to what I say. I get sick of trying to explain myself

I've become accustomed to searching for the sources in most links given in threads. It was something that I did even before the C-19 days,why is I trapped myself a few times by just clicking and dragging links,articles ect. and assuming they were correct. Anyway I'm in hopes that the sources being presented are just that, in that they were assumed to be correct,factual ect. by those providing them in an honest error.

I learned from the stuff being passed when the last presidential election was hot and heavy, that people I trusted as a good source of news could no longer be trusted.

so I stopped listening to any news concerning trump, Biden or the vaccine. Because I do nto trust anythign anyone says.

I got the vaccine 6 months ago, As did my wife. And everyone in my home group. My churhc of over 6000 members are mostly vaccinated. The nes who are nt are young and healthy and do not think they need it, and I would not argue with them. Because I doubt they need it also.

Thank you, and bless you

Well...about that...

Is that an example of Israel still in an unredeemed state that they cannot walk in Holy Spirit guidance and direction?

It has been said on this forum and elsewhere that satan is trying to divide. I'd like to offer a different perspective.

Matthew 10:33-37
33 But whosoever shall deny Me before men, him will I also deny before My Father who is in Heaven.

34 “Think not that I am come to send peace on earth. I came not to send peace, but a sword.

35 For I am come to ‘set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law.’

36 And ‘a man’s foes shall be they of his own household.’

37 He that loveth father or mother more than Me, is not worthy of Me. And he that loveth son or daughter more than Me, is not worthy of Me.

38 And he that taketh not his cross and followeth after Me, is not worthy of Me.

39 He that findeth his life, shall lose it; and he that loseth his life for My sake, shall find it.


The Messiah said HE would be the one who causes division. Is this what we're seeing now? Is this is the great shaking prophesied to occur?


Hebrews 12:26-28
26 whose voice then shook the earth. But now He hath promised, saying, “Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven.”

27 And these words, “yet once more,” signifieth the removing of those things which can be shaken, such as things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain.

28 Therefore, we receiving a Kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace whereby we may serve God acceptably, with reverence and godly fear.

I was teasing the notion that they aren't the chosen people, I particularly mean the folks in governing power over there. The Messiah said gentiles would trample the land until the time of the gentiles (so-called "church age") is fulfilled.

Here's a curious nugget for you. Have you ever noticed when the Jews returned to the land from Babylon that scripture says the kings and priests of Judea weren't actually Israelites but were Idumean? Surely, the citizenry were Jews but the governing power over them was the Edomites masquerading as Jews. How did they manage to rise to power?

The same has happened again today as the scriptures said it would.

I believe the mention of division is pertaining to the adversary seeking to divide and concur, jesus teaching on division pertains to how His own will be separated from the those who will not give Him first place in their lives.


Matthew 12:46-50

New International Version



Jesus’ Mother and Brothers
46 While Jesus was still talking to the crowd, his mother and brothers stood outside, wanting to speak to him. 47 Someone told him, “Your mother and brothers are standing outside, wanting to speak to you.”
48 He replied to him, “Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?” 49 Pointing to his disciples, he said, “Here are my mother and my brothers. 50 For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother.”

That is a new one on me, "Idumean"? hmmm...

I don't mean to derail, but here you are...

"Herod the Great was the son of a high-ranking official in the Hasmonean dynasty, which was ruling Palestine as an independent kingdom. He was an Idumean or Edomite (a descendant of Esau), but there had been intermarriage between Jews and Edomites, and Herod publicly identified himself as a Jew, although he was not faithful to observe Jewish Law. In 41 BC Herod the Great was named governor of Galilee. However, the Jewish Hasmonean dynasty was in conflict with Rome, and Herod supported Rome in the conflict. He was given the title King of the Jews by the Roman Senate and then charged with the responsibility of conquering Judea so that he could rule as a client king. After about three years of fighting, Herod was victorious in 37 or 36 BC. "

https://www.gotquestions.org/Herod-the-Great.html

Firstly, remember Isaac blessed Jacob and Esau with almost the same blessing. In both blessings, both were to have the cream of the crop; the best the world...but for Esau, Isaac said his blessing would only come (1) through the sword and (2) after he was no longer the servant of his brother.

Secondly, even though Esau sold his birthright, Jacob still bore false witness (i.e. a sin) to finally get it by masquerading as Esau. For the Almighty, justice is balance ("eye for an eye... a tooth for a tooth"), so whenever Israel enters into judgment Edomites masquerade as Israelites to take the inheritance back...but you can always recognize them because their "gains" are always maintained through constant war/fighting/violence (the sword).

I can see this as reaction of spreading the gospel. But I cant see this in case of the vaccine.

And we should take this person seriously?