Vaccination?

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If a Christian gets vaccinated for the covid Is this a lack of faith?

  • Getting the vaccination means the Christian lacks faith.

  • Getting the vaccination demonstrates love thy neighbor.

  • Other,I will explain.


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eternally-gratefull

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I am not a fan of Science in the notion of beliefs and we should always trust them over anything else.
I am a BIG fan of leaving my home, going out in public, meandering around among all peoples. And that happens to be where I've contacted Covid and spread it around.
And if Science can Vaccinate me so I can continue to mingle amongst God's creation, and it keeps me from Spreading Covid, I am on board 1000%
this is what it all about. Go into the world..

If we can't go into the world ....
 

EnglishChick

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God has the entire globe in His hands

I refer to people who seem to believe that somehow the US is in a covenant relationship with the US

no, I don't think God has His hand on this country as He does with Israel :)

Israel is described as the apple of God's eye in scripture and there are prophecies to be fulfilled still

Yes, I think God has his hand in all of His people but not necessarily nations as a whole (other than Israel, of course)

It's individual believers in the US and other countries that God has His hand on.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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We will all die of something one day. Those of us in Christ have nothing to fear whether we did by a vaccine, covid or whatever else

Let's just enjoy the life Jesus has given us so we can share Him and the good news with others . To each their own as to whether they jab or not

I have no fear of being around unvaccinated people, they can't harm me. Vice versa.
this is where we need to be

Open everything back up. It is time to stop destroying our economy and lived because of fear.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Who is this "they"? The THEY, is the government, Fauci, the MSM, the Pharm companies and those that fund them, the world, and the world system.

THAT, is exactly the "they" YOU have put your trust and faith in.
Nope

As I have said

I DO NOT LISTEN TO NEWS ANYMORE.

You mnu friend are so far gone you are now making baseless accusations based on what you THINK, not what is reality.
 

EnglishChick

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this is what it all about. Go into the world..

If we can't go into the world ....
Exactly. The great commission is for today.

The age of the gentiles will not cease until Christ comes back. Those of us in western countries where are not being imprisoned for our faith don't need to hide away or go off grid. Let's use our freedoms while we have them.
 

Aidan1

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No. We’re NOT going to let it go.

The injection is lethal. People need to know. I can’t help it if people are going to stick their heads in the sand, but I will continue to give the info that the msm is not reporting because they are in league with the god of this world:

British researchers find a potential mechanism for Covid vaccine-caused heart injury



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The preprint came out in July, from scientists and physicians at the University of Bristol, one of Britain’s top universities.

Naturally, it has received almost no attention, even after they presented it in August at the European Society of Cardiology Congress. Research that raises doubts about the safety of the Covid vaccines - even indirectly - rarely gets traction.


The preprint runs 26 pages and includes 56 footnotes. I am no expert on the structure and function of heart cells, but as far as I can tell it appears meticulously documented. And it paints a troubling picture: specialized blood vessel cells called pericytes have receptors called CD147s. The novel coronavirus itself (Sars-Cov-2) cannot attack these CD147s and damage the pericyte cells, potentially leading to clotting and heart attacks.

But free-floating spike protein - like the spike protein the vaccines make our bodies produce - can.

ORIGINAL PAPER: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.12.21.423721v2.full.pdf

The researchers didn’t specifically look at vaccine-generated spike proteins; they were looking instead at the potential for spike proteins in people infected with the virus itself to cause damage. But they were clear about the implications of their findings:

“Importantly, we show that the recombinant S protein alone elicits cellular signalling through the CD147 receptor in cardiac [cells], thereby inducing cell dysfunction and microvascular disruption in vitro.”

And the spike protein looks and functions essentially the same whether it is generated as part of the virus or through the vaccine. And a paper published in May showed that 11 of 13 people had measurable levels of spike proteins in their blood following vaccination.
This paper says, that the spike protein of the Sars-coV-2 virus is the cause for the above mentioned healthproblems.
Your conclusion is that the vaccine, which is uesing artificially produced spike proteins have the same damage for the body. Thats the question. Over short or long all people will come in contact with the virus. Vaccined or not.
So you would prefer an infection with the Sars-coV-2 virus more, then an vaccine?
You can do so. But for many people this could be their death or they will suffer with serious health problems. Even the sideeffects of the vaccine is not to deny, the effects of the virus itself are stronger.
 

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We will all die of something one day. Those of us in Christ have nothing to fear whether we did by a vaccine, covid or whatever else

Let's just enjoy the life Jesus has given us so we can share Him and the good news with others . To each their own as to whether they jab or not

I have no fear of being around unvaccinated people, they can't harm me. Vice versa.
" to each His own" seems to reject our responsibility to be His hands and His feet, if we are truly His, His toughts and desires become ours, we go where he would have us go, we do what He would have us do. we don't live just to "enjoy life" living to ourselves, we enjoy life as we are His, it is a byproduct of obedience to His guidance.

best wishes
 

PennEd

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Nope

As I have said

I DO NOT LISTEN TO NEWS ANYMORE.

You mnu friend are so far gone you are now making baseless accusations based on what you THINK, not what is reality.
Great.

You still didn't answer the question.
I identified the "they" you listen to and trust. Who is this THEY that I listen and trust?
 
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Exactly. The great commission is for today.

The age of the gentiles will not cease until Christ comes back. Those of us in western countries where are not being imprisoned for our faith don't need to hide away or go off grid. Let's use our freedoms while we have them.
We wont have them long. Then we will have to think about all the times we could have spread the word of Christ. and failed because we were to busy pushing left wing or right wing fanaticism.
 

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Nope

As I have said

I DO NOT LISTEN TO NEWS ANYMORE.

You mnu friend are so far gone you are now making baseless accusations based on what you THINK, not what is reality.

I hardly ever tune in now. Bad for my mental health. The Lord has made it clear to me that I need to work on my health and freeing up my time to focus on Him. If a Christian is worried about something in the news affecting them and asks me to pray, of course I try to pray or offer words of comfort and encouragement as I feel led.

If they say they worried about the vaccines I am like ".take it to the Lord in prayer and see what His will is for you personally." Because His answer won't be the same for each of us.
 
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Great.

You still didn't answer the question.
I identified the "they" you listen to and trust. Who is this THEY that I listen and trust?
You did not identify anything my friend. YOU ASSUME.

I do not trust ANYONE. How many times do I have to say that before you will open you mind and believe it?
 

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We wont have them long. Then we will have to think about all the times we could have spread the word of Christ. and failed because we were to busy pushing left wing or right wing fanaticism.

Amen! The kingdom of God isn't about who is right or l eft, who is prime minister or president. If you're a child of God, you're a child of God first and foremost
 
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I hardly ever tune in now. Bad for my mental health. The Lord has made it clear to me that I need to work on my health and freeing up my time to focus on Him. If a Christian is worried about something in the news affecting them and asks me to pray, of course I try to pray or offer words of comfort and encouragement as I feel led.

If they say they worried about the vaccines I am like ".take it to the Lord in prayer and see what His will is for you personally." Because His answer won't be the same for each of us.
My wife keeps asking me what the weather is because I listened to the morning news every day. I do not know the weather because I refuse to listen to the news..
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Amen! The kingdom of God isn't about who is right or l eft, who is prime minister or president. If you're a child of God, you're a child of God first and foremost
Amen.

Satan is behind all this, he wants to divide us. Keep us from what is really important
 

CS1

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My church has never been closed. SO not sure what your talking about. If your church closed. then that sounds like a personal problem.
actually, in California, it is true So please don't tell me what is true when you don't know what others have gone through since this pandemic started. Our Governor was sued because of discrimination for closing Christian churches while leaving Mosques open.

You just want to be argumentative while being ignorant. The personal problem is the one you have with me :)
 
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I know people who had COVID who have not had the vaccine who have heart inflammation. In fact my sister in law had heart surgery due to covid.

These people can't let it go. They are going to fight no matter what
I know someone who had COVID my age last year who still has some heart issues. She was healthy and gave birth before she got COVID. Another one my age was hospitalized and has lung scars now. She is a runner and breast cancer survivor.
 

PennEd

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So you would prefer an infection with the Sars-coV-2 virus more, then an vaccine?
Yes. I definitely would rather have the virus over the gene therapy.

I also believe it is very likely I already had the virus, although I wasn't tested at the time I thought I had it. Just like when I get any other respiratory illness I don't go to the Drs, unless I'm really sick.

If I had it, I have MUCH greater immunity than the vaccinated, who presently have ZERO immunity since just as world reknowned scientists and immunologists told us, 8 months ago would happen with antibody dependent enhancement.

The original virus has mutated, and your immune system is only trained to look for the virus as it was when they first started creating the gene therapy. Not to mention the other horrors it's doing to you.

So as much as I wouldn't want to get sick, and possibly die from the virus, I'd much rather have that than take the lethal injection.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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actually, in California, it is true So please don't tell me what is true when you don't know what others have gone through since this pandemic started. Our Governor was sued because of discrimination for closing Christian churches while leaving Mosques open.

You just want to be argumentative while being ignorant. The personal problem is the one you have with me :)
That sounds like a political issue there not a pandemic issue'

If he did not close mosques it has nothing to do with the pandemic..

But if your looking for something. Well then so be it. believe what you want.
 

CS1

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That sounds like a political issue there not a pandemic issue'

If he did not close mosques it has nothing to do with the pandemic..

But if your looking for something. Well then so be it. believe what you want.
You're a buffoon. Please do not address me as you are a very hateful person. Seeking confrontation.
 
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