“Covenant Marriage” trend

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SecondHandHippie

SecondHandHippie

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mindfulzen said:
God did not write the bible, multiple authors did, humans, sometimes humans makes mistakes. Some divorces are permissible, not arguing against that. More specific to the active part. And doing it wrong. If you get divorced, you can marry again. If the vows are broken you can marry again. Just the basic fact that it is a contract between you, your spouse and God, and I cannot ignore God in this contract. You are three. God is above me, I just assumed it was the same for you.

Judgement is his, not ours. If it was a harlot, since I cannot use bad words, who was married to hypothetical man, and she was married but never believed in God, and later went to God, it would not matter. The purity of her heart is all that matters after that. I do not think we should judge either way, not ours to make. I may be wrong, but I believe that I will meet some atheist people with pure hearts in heaven, if I am allowed to get in. I became christian through learning from atheist sinners who rejected God.

ps. Why do mine or others judgement of you, matter to you? You do the best for you and God, let us not interfere in that. Just take the help, if my comment was not what you wanted, just disregard it. I do not know you, I do not judge you, in no position to do it. Sorry if it seemed personal, really was not. Was general
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What is really concerning is that you think there are parts of the bible that are “mistakes” and should be ignored.
 
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mindfulzen

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SecondHandHippie said:
What is really concerning is that you think there are parts of the bible that are “mistakes” and should be ignored.
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If your OP is true, that is not your concern. And I never said the bible was wrong. I told you that people might have presented it wrong. And that it does not matter to me, that I do not judge harlots harsher than others, do not care about how people live their lives, as long as they are happpy and truthful. Their lives, their choice, we should respect that. There is something biblical about 7 days, right? Or 10.
 
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MatthewWestfieldUK

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SecondHandHippie said:
It’s NEVER too late to start over and ask forgiveness, as long as we are trying hard to resist temptation. Sometimes we fall, but that’s what God’s grace is for. We’re ALL damaged goods, that’s why grace is so amazing.
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Im learning to progress. Some days I have no doubt. Others, i just feel empty and alone. I think everyone hoes through such days?
 
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MatthewWestfieldUK

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SecondHandHippie said:
It’s NEVER too late to start over and ask forgiveness, as long as we are trying hard to resist temptation. Sometimes we fall, but that’s what God’s grace is for. We’re ALL damaged goods, that’s why grace is so amazing.
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You are right. I am trying to forgive myself a little and break the barrier of guilt.
Not all days are so good. I am trying to talk about things more, but it's not easy to find anyone who has time or understands. Those who do understand often have even bigger problems.
I do think that there are some good Hearts out there.
I am trying to read more international news because it helps open my mind to the reality faced around the world.
Often, in the West, we spend too long focusing on the small things that don't really matter.
 
CS1

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SecondHandHippie said:
I have heard a few opinions in the church from people that a second marriage is not valid in the eyes of God if your first husband is still alive (“covenant marriage” believers do not consider anything besides death valid to break up a marriage, and even reject adultery, or an unbelieving spouse leaving a believing spouse, as a reason for divorce). I often look around me and realize that if it were true that a second marriage after divorce is not valid in the eyes of God, about 2/3rds of the believers I know would be “living in sin”. Some would have been “living in sin” for more than 45 years!

Also, according to what I have read in scripture, if your spouse divorced you and remarries someone else, but you are still pining after them in hopes of a restored marriage, that is also adultery because they are another person’s spouse, whether you recognize it or not. (Jeremiah 3:1)

So I’m going to have to say that I reject the view of believers in the “only death can break your first covenant marriage” and “God doesn’t recognize second marriages” folks based on my understanding of scripture.

Disclaimer: I do believe marriage should be fought for, and everything possible (as far as it depends on you) should be done to preserve and save it! I believe divorce is allowed (not encouraged, but allowed) in scripture for adultery, and unbelieving spouse leaving a believing spouse. And I believe the church needs to teach that divorce is not the unpardonable sin, and Jesus forgives us too.
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the issue is not what we think or the time of people in a second marriage :).

God hates divorce. The reason why the family is almost gone today is because of unfaithful men and women IN the church!

The context of Marriage was and is a Plan God created found in Genesis 2:24. That standard was reinforced by the Lord Jesus in the Gospels of Matthew Mark and Luke. God has not changed.

Preachers how were called by God left their wife or the wife left them and they could not stay unmarried " why do I have to be punished for what my wife or Husband did "? remarry then remarry again or again. Where does it stop?

the very divorce percentage of Christians 70 % was used to point to the non-seriousness of marriage to support gay marriage.

divorce happens for one reason Primarily Unforgiveness. Can one be remarried I'm sure it can happen but is there a repercussion for doing so? yes, there is.
 
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