poll who thinks smoking cigarettes is a temptation of the devil ?

I seem to recall having this talk with you once before, but anyhow I'm happy to have it again.

Matthew 7 :: NIV. "Do not judge, or you too will be judged. Or another translation is

Matthew 7 Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you

(This means if you Judge you will be judged it does not mean you should not judge at all. It means if you judge a sinner wrongly you will be judged ACCORDINGLY, if you have been called to Judge correctly, and you judge correctly by the bible then you must judge, Its also means if you don't want to be judged then don't judge. God appoints men to Judge, I'll tell you that i am not afraid to judge and i will do so. And if my Judgment is wrong, i will be judged. And if my Judgment is right, i will be judged. So once again I will tell you that I am not afraid to Judge sin and I will do so

John 7:24

Do not judge by appearances, but judge with right judgment.”

My thread is about judging the devil. Which nobody can see

Galatians 6

Brothers, if anyone is caught in any transgression, you who are spiritual should restore him in a spirit of gentleness. Keep watch on yourself, lest you to be tempted.

(Judging a brother caught up in sin with this type of judgment is the correct Judgment.) If you Judge this way, you will not be Judged badly

romans 14 Therefore let us not pass judgment on one another any longer, but rather decide never to put a stumbling block or hindrance in the way of a brother.

If you stop putting a stumbling block in front of your brother, then there is no need to keep judging each other. But if you do put a stumbling block in front of your brother, then a brother should judge you. I will also Judge you if you don't see this point of View.

i quit a few months ago.
feel better now physically and spiritually.
it does harm God's Temple.

"your far better helping others to hit the mark then leaving because of something youve seen that you dont like."


If we are His, our lives are hidden in Him, we go where He directs, we do what He directs us to do, we lean not on our own understanding.
Jesus modeled how we are all to live, He only did what He saw the Father do, He only said what He heard the Father say.
When He directs to leave what is a waste of time we each must be obedient, God is a God of purpose.

Yep I’m always going to stay with that view because it’s what Jesus taught and Paul taught . I think we did yes have this before and your welcome to jidge me any way you wish I wouldn’t hold it against you , but you should know I already have one who judges me and so do you

“Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭4:5‬ ‭KJV‬‬

what’s more is he’s already set the judgement and sent it out to all
People who will believe him and accept his judgement now before it’s too late

“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved;

but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:15-16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

your judgements about someone smoking isn’t going to affect anything for anyone but yourself.

This you seem to have avoided before also but it’s important for you to consider what the apostle is actually saying

“Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations. For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs. Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not;

and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him. Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭14:1-4‬ ‭KJV‬‬
I would ask the same if a judgemental Christian who fancies themselves the judge of others in Christ “ who are you to judge christs people who he suffered and died for ? “

You have no concept of faith it the thing it makes it impossible for you to judge another person he continues on

“One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it.

He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks. For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself.

For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lord's.

For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living.

But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭14:5-10‬ ‭KJV‬‬

you have an idea that whatever you think is what judges another your missing the truth about faith

are you someone who has taken his place in judgement ? Or should you consider who the eternal jidge of mankind is and what he said ?

“And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭10:42‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Or Paul of you prefer again

“And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent: Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭17:30-31‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Christians correct understanding is here

“Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful.

Judge not, and ye shall not be judged:

condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned:

forgive, and ye shall be forgiven: Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall be given into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭6:36-38‬ ‭KJV‬‬

you have to let the gospel be the judgement and share it with people not become a judge to at doesnt forst accept his judgement and makes your judgement something of worth or value over someone else Christ does and rose paid the price for each of us he is the judge of each of us for that reason not you , myself , or any man

Our place is to work towards unity and peace in Christ not stand pointing at each other’s sins that will always be division like it was under Moses “you man accuse and condemn the other man “

It doesn’t matter if you judge me but you shouldn’t judge others they belong to Christ and he earned the right to judge them we haven’t especially when we can’t first come into his word and let it give us judgement for ourself first

i quit a few months ago.
feel better now physically and spiritually.
it does harm God's Temple.

1 Corinthians 5:12-13

12 What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? 13 God will judge those outside. “Expel the wicked person from among you.”[a]....

There you go brother I've told you this before and I have shown you this scripture, but yet again as you have done many times insist that brothers should not Judge each other. But here I show you again but i have already shown you this, months ago but yet you disregard this scripture.

And so who is wrong here ?

John 7:24

Do not judge by appearances, but judge with right judgment.”

My thread is about judging the devil. Which nobody can see

Galatians 6

Brothers, if anyone is caught in any transgression, you who are spiritual should restore him in a spirit of gentleness. Keep watch on yourself, lest you to be tempted.

You have ignored these 3 scriptures and answered as if we should not Judge at all. Which is unfair, and you base that on this scripture, 1 Corinthians 4:5 Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts.

Have you read 1 Corinthians 4 from the beginning, as it speaks about a person having a clear conscience. And Paul is mad with the Corinthian church for judging a brother who has a clear conscience, Paul was being judged here by the Corinthian church. . Paul was well known for getting annoyed. He battled all the time with a thorn in his side the devil a Satan cherubim,, a demon,,, spiritual oppression.. Which means what,,,it would mean the devil was always whispering in his ear.. There for from time to time, he would have ranted until he was able to withstand every fiery dart of the devil had to offer,, including demonic oppression that lasts for 17 hours a day,, which we know it can from scripture.. It also means from time to time some meaning may not have been fully explained in scripture... such as when Paul speaks in chapter 5 he tells us to Judge,, whereas in chapter 4 he tells people to Judge nothing...so there for there is an error in translation and explanation here,,,, The error in chapter 4 is identification of different judging has not been fully identified in translation. This is why you should not candy pick scripture

So there for once again i will tell you this topic is about judging temptation of the devil.

Once again this topic is about discussing sin not the sinner

And once again I will tell you, I will not stop judging sin or temptation from the devil.

And once again i will tell you that you are in error to return scripture against this that says we should not a judge THIS,,

Also, you are in error to say we should never Judge a brother,,, because if he is in error then we must judge.. So why do you make judging to be a crime in this case ? And why do you make people afraid to judge ?

I know you have a thorn in your side.. Maybe this is your problem, because talking about lovingly judging and restoring a brother CAUGHT IN TRANSGRESSION is what e must do. AND TALKING ABOUT YOUR THORN IN THE SIDE IS ALSO WHAT WE MUST DO.

a thorn in My side lol I don’t think you know anything about me at all , but it seems to be a thorn in your behind that Christ is my judge and yours so as to not irritate that for you I’ll move on from this one

I’ve tried to explain to you any judgement you make of me is irrelevant to Me, and will Only have any relevance to you. But I know other folks who fancy themselves everyone’s judge also so you aren’t unique but Jesus is worthy to be my judge . I hope someday you will allow his judgement to judge you also it will Lead to Much more peace in your soul and less peering at everyone else and allow for you to start walking by faith

ummmm a thorn in my behind eh ummm ?, why in my behind, this is not the usual thing to think ? , i mean you could have just said in my side, ? This could be the devil talking to you again

And what's with you saying you don't want to irritate me ? what's all that about ?, is not irritating somebody when something gets on somebodies nerves,, i don't get how you could think such a thing of your self if you're a brother who means a brother no harm, this not the usual thing to think, this could be the devil talking to you again.

And what's this quote of yours that says any judgement you make of me will be turned on you.

Are you saying that a brother in Christ can not make any judgement of you at all ? Are you sure the devil is not filling you with pride and again talking to you ?



And what's this other quote of yours that i know other people who fancy themselves as a judge,, ?? Are you sure you know them really,, or is it more like the devil talking to you again on how he would like them to be known by you ?. Ill let you into some more knowledge of the bible that can be seen in many places,, the devils pride will not allow anyone to Judge him to for anything at all and that is why the devil does anything to harm a person to,, even with cruel words,, which you seem to be repeating from the devil, because over and over you have judged in this quote of yours here the way the devil would judge, insulting and puffed up with pride, there's at least 4 judgements in this post of your here, and many judgements in other posts you make to, but yet no one can Judge you ? So i have to tell you that is the devil talking, and I have to tell you this from my instruction to talk to a brother with gentleness who is caught up in transgression and yours being the transgression of pride,,

yes you definately have a lot of thoughts of the devil Possessing others I agree there . It’s strange you think such things when you don’t know me , never have had a conversation with me or asked me about anything you must truly be gifted to see into peoples hearts that you’ve never approached other than to cast judgements at basically anyone who doesn’t agree with your judgements

and especially those who accept the gospel and Christs judgements it seems to be a thorn in your behind , because it seems to irritate you a bit more than a thorn in your side would . It’s odd that you look at believing this as possession of the devil

“Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful.

Judge not, and ye shall not be judged:

condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned:

forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:

Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall be given into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭6:36-38‬ ‭KJV‬

this seems to be a sticker somewhere in tou to wyd pretty painful you seem to rather want to be here

“And when they saw it, they all murmured, saying, That he was gone to be guest with a man that is a sinner.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭19:7‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“And when the scribes and Pharisees saw him eat with publicans and sinners, they said unto his disciples, How is it that he eateth and drinketh with publicans and sinners?”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭2:16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“They answered and said unto him, Thou wast altogether born in sins, and dost thou teach us? And they cast him out.”
‭‭John‬ ‭9:34‬ ‭KJV‬‬

which is what makes you completely unqualified to judge anyone you can’t come to the gospel and let Jesus judge you and other people who he died for instead you have to imagine things you have no knowledge of and accuse and point at others like Paul he must be an irritation to you also

“For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living. But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.

So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God. Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭14:9-13‬ ‭KJV‬‬

You really should not accuse and condemn people as being of the devil that’s stuff is all going to come back to you if you don’t repent

All temptations are from God. God created all things.

When tempted, no one should say, “God is tempting me.” For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does He tempt anyone.
James 1:13

Not the devil, in my opinion. People who smoke cigarettes smoke them because they want to, not because the devil made them.

I am happy to stand corrected.

Not the devil, in my opinion. People who smoke cigarettes smoke them because they want to, not because the devil made them.

Often people smoke because they're addicted to cigarettes.

Often people smoke because they're addicted to cigarettes.