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Aidan1

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SophieT said:
but no problem following the bouncing dot yourself



ahahahaha....yes, death is a pretty serious side effect. I wonder what the cumulative side effects are for double dosers and repeat boosters...

you don't know what you are talking about

sounds like you are getting angry though for some reason
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Again, then compare the effects of covid with the vaccine.
And again, if you would vaccine millions people against measels, pocks, Tetanus or polio, you would find similar numbers of sideeffects.

Of course it is terrible and painful that people get serious health problems or dieing after getting the vaccine. But many more people will be harmed and die through the virus itself.

I am not angry. I simply dont understand that christians can believe this conspiracy theorys about the vaccine. And be so fixed on it.
 
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Not sure how anything in this link even addressed the concern. You still haven't had the safety of time to pass to know for an absolute fact how these vaccines will effect people, and please don't just throw out a link....explain yourself.
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Rockson:R u crazy it's been many years...your memories is worse then mine..if u don't remember this. Rockson something been done 2 us..we can't remember things
 
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Aidan1 said:
Of course it is terrible and painful that people get serious health problems or dieing after getting the vaccine. But many more people will be harmed and die through the virus itself.
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So if it was one of your loved ones who died after taking the vaccine can you honestly tell me you could still say you're glad they took it?

I simply dont understand that christians can believe this conspiracy theorys about the vaccine.
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And I simply don't understand why you'd refuse to hear medical professionals by their own words on video speak about how to exaggerate the numbers to motivate more people to take a vaccine. You stated, consider the source but the source was not Alex but the people themselves.
 
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Not sure how anything in this link even addressed the concern. You still haven't had the safety of time to pass to know for an absolute fact how these vaccines will effect people, and please don't just throw out a link....explain yourself.
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Well if you had read the article I linked to you would know.

These mRNA vaccines are decades old technology...they aren't new.

They either work or they don't. Not a lot of middle ground with them in how they are going to work or not.

Because of the billions of doses administered already... obviously they work safely and effectively.

They don't have the longest lifespan in your system...but they are decent.
 
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So if it was one of your loved ones who died after taking the vaccine can you honestly tell me you could still say you're glad they took it?



And I simply don't understand why you'd refuse to hear medical professionals by their own words on video speak about how to exaggerate the numbers to motivate more people to take a vaccine. You stated, consider the source but the source was not Alex but the people themselves.
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well some of that stuff has Subliminals on it. And i'm not sure that there r any filters 4 it.
 
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Again, then compare the effects of covid with the vaccine.
And again, if you would vaccine millions people against measels, pocks, Tetanus or polio, you would find similar numbers of sideeffects.

Of course it is terrible and painful that people get serious health problems or dieing after getting the vaccine. But many more people will be harmed and die through the virus itself.

I am not angry. I simply dont understand that christians can believe this conspiracy theorys about the vaccine. And be so fixed on it.
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well good if you are not angry...but I am angry..I am angry at all the lies being told by the left here in the US...not to mention the rest of the world

you would not find all the side effects in those other vaccines you mentioned as is happening with the covid experimental vaccine

actually more people are dying of the side effects and the lack of proper preventive options than the covid and the covid variations

the major problem, with your beliefs, is that you think Christians should be blamed for something here because they do not agree with you

this, is the major fault in your thinking and it seems that is not going to change. apart from that, you are also protecting your own actions and pinching yourself every morning when you see nothing bad has happened yet

I would say there is alot you do not understand in this world apart from your notion that Christians should all line up and tow the line

who are you that Christians should apologize to you for deciding their best interests do not align with following your actions and what you say as if you somehow had the mind of God and could speak for all believers

I have always maintained that people should choose. you do not seem to respect that
 
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Genipher said:
I see nothing wrong with people "dreaming dreams" or "prophesying". Though as soon as they're made out to be false, they can never be trusted again.

And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy... Acts 2:17-18
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Which brings up the matter of repentance and confession. The month of Elul precedes the month of Tishrei which begins with the Feast of trumpets. The month of Elul begins with us "back to back" with the Lord and ends with us Face to face. This month turns us around, causes us to repent and to seek the Lords face. We then respond with the blowing of the shofar, a trumpet made of a ram's horn which calls to God that when He is going to judge us to have mercy on us. It reminds him of Abraham about to sacrifice his son and then sacrificing a ram instead.

I say this because the 24th of September is about two weeks before the Feast of Trumpets (ignore the Torah calendar they are off by a month). It seems that there will be a two week period of silent awe before the Lord, when the communications are back up you will have believers all over the world "blowing the trumpet", they will realize it is the start of the tribulation and they will be calling for mercy.

 
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Which brings up the matter of repentance and confession. The month of Elul precedes the month of Tishrei which begins with the Feast of trumpets. The month of Elul begins with us "back to back" with the Lord and ends with us Face to face. This month turns us around, causes us to repent and to seek the Lords face. We then respond with the blowing of the shofar, a trumpet made of a ram's horn which calls to God that when He is going to judge us to have mercy on us. It reminds him of Abraham about to sacrifice his son and then sacrificing a ram instead
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our sins are forgiven through the shed blood of Christ. there is no other way to come to God but through the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and there is no name given under heaven whereby our sins are forgiven

11This Jesus is the stone that was rejected by you, the builders, which has become the cornerstone. 12And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.” Acts 4

9If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. I John 1:9
 
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Rockson said:
So if it was one of your loved ones who died after taking the vaccine can you honestly tell me you could still say you're glad they took it?



And I simply don't understand why you'd refuse to hear medical professionals by their own words on video speak about how to exaggerate the numbers to motivate more people to take a vaccine. You stated, consider the source but the source was not Alex but the people themselves.
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I Personal lost no One to the virus or vaccine.
But I know people they lost familymembers and friends because if the virus, not because of the vaccine.

Easy to say. The virus is killing much more then the vaccine.

And believe me, the number of medical professionals who are supporting the vaccine is much bigger, then those which are against the vaccine.
 
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Rockson said:
How can you do that when we haven't had time to see how to compare them. Two years have not gone by yet.
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Of course we can do. The problem is that people have interest to public the victims of the vaccine then of the virus.
But today you can research how many people died because of the virus and how many because of the vaccine.
There is a huge different.
The long term effect. There is one study that shows that around 50% from those which had symptoms, have 1 year after infection with the virus still health problems.
 
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DavidTree said:
You agreed to be experimented on by permitting your body to be used in the experiment with an experimental gene altering technology.
You did not get a vaccine injected into you my friend - you have been duped = deceived.

While Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately. “Tell us,” they said, “when will these things happen, and what will be the sign of Your coming and of the end of the age?”
Jesus answered, “See to it that no one deceives you."
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The deception I see is people swallowing gallons of hogwash without bothering to ascertain the truth of any of the outlandish claims. I spent weeks pondering the pros and cons before I made a decision to get the jab. Shouting something louder and louder does not make it true. None of the vaccines registered in Australia alter genes. There are many vaccines so I can't say about the others.

After decades of hoo hah about GM foods, the opponents in this country finally have conceded that they are harmless. Much ado about nothing. Exactly as the GM food industry has been saying. The great deception has been around since the early 1900's well before flu vaccines. It's spiritual, not natural.

I suggest that you go catch the virus. You will either die or recover. If you live, you will have natural immunity. Then maybe you will just shut up and quit accusing the brethren. That's Satan's job, not yours.
 
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JohnDB said:
Well if you had read the article I linked to you would know.

These mRNA vaccines are decades old technology...they aren't new.

They either work or they don't. Not a lot of middle ground with them in how they are going to work or not.

Because of the billions of doses administered already... obviously they work safely and effectively.

They don't have the longest lifespan in your system...but they are decent.
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Well here's something Tal Brosh the head of the Infectious Disease Unit at Samson Assuta Ashdod Hospitial had to say,

“There is a race to get the public vaccinated, so we are willing to take more risks,” Tal Brosh, head of the Infectious Disease Unit at Samson Assuta Ashdod Hospital, told The Jerusalem Post.

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“We will have a safety profile for only a certain number of months, so if there is a long-term effect after two years, we cannot know,” Brosh said, adding that we could wait two years to discover them, “but then we would have the coronavirus for two more years.”

So.....clear statement they don't KNOW of what the long term effects might be so one can't say they're absolutely safe. There's no clear proof of that. He spoke that we are willing to take the risk.....but who gives any human being the right to insist that everyone needs to do the same and be subject to job loss and other things worse for doing the same?

And MICHAL LINIAL, a professor of biological chemistry at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, told the Post,

But when asked if she would take the vaccine right away, she responded: “I won’t be taking it immediately – probably not for at least the coming year,” she told the Post. “We have to wait and see whether it really works.”

Could mRNA COVID-19 vaccines be dangerous in the long-term? - The Jerusalem Post (jpost.com)

Now this article was posted in Nov 2020 so a full year hasn't gone by. So how wonderful. Some of these very qualified to give their opinion on the subject and wants to wait a full year but everyone else should throw caution to the wind?

 
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SophieT said:
well good if you are not angry...but I am angry..I am angry at all the lies being told by the left here in the US...not to mention the rest of the world

you would not find all the side effects in those other vaccines you mentioned as is happening with the covid experimental vaccine

actually more people are dying of the side effects and the lack of proper preventive options than the covid and the covid variations

the major problem, with your beliefs, is that you think Christians should be blamed for something here because they do not agree with you

this, is the major fault in your thinking and it seems that is not going to change. apart from that, you are also protecting your own actions and pinching yourself every morning when you see nothing bad has happened yet

I would say there is alot you do not understand in this world apart from your notion that Christians should all line up and tow the line

who are you that Christians should apologize to you for deciding their best interests do not align with following your actions and what you say as if you somehow had the mind of God and could speak for all believers

I have always maintained that people should choose. you do not seem to respect that
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In germany are now 62% of the citizienz full vaccined. Means around 48 million people.
In germany died till 2nd August 1024 people after been vaccinatet, but only 48 of them are connectet as result of vaccination.
Around 94000 people died because of infection with the virus.
The side effects which you find after the vaccine you find more and stronger after the infection with the virus.
So i cant support your view that more people dies because of the vaccination then of the virus.
Btw in in case of a virus the preventive option is to vaccine.
 
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Aidan1 said:
In germany are now 62% of the citizienz full vaccined. Means around 48 million people.
In germany died till 2nd August 1024 people after been vaccinatet, but only 48 of them are connectet as result of vaccination.
Around 94000 people died because of infection with the virus.
The side effects which you find after the vaccine you find more and stronger after the infection with the virus.
So i cant support your view that more people dies because of the vaccination then of the virus.
Btw in in case of a virus the preventive option is to vaccine.
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in germany, the survival rate for covid is 97. 5 %.

but just ignore that and tell yourself that the vax is the only thing that will save your life.
 
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ZNP said:
Which brings up the matter of repentance and confession.
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The Tribulation is all about turning Israel to seek the face of the Lord. At His crucifixion they said "we have no king but Caesar". OK, they will be forced to enter into a covenant arrangement with the AntiChrist. They will eat those words much like they had to eat the golden calf.

Likewise, believers who put their trust in the goodness of politicians to protect them, tell them the truth and save them will have to eat that as well.
 
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