IBM, Moderna Explore AI, Blockchain for COVID-19 Vaccine Management

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By Samantha McGrail on March 09, 2021

“IBM and Moderna recently announced their intentions to explore technologies, including artificial intelligence, blockchain, and hybrid cloud to support smarter COVID-19 vaccine management.

The effort will include an open, standardized, technology-enabled vaccine distribution approach, which aims to improve supply chain visibility, IBM said. Additionally, the companies will work to track vaccine distribution in real-time.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/hitinf...ai-blockchain-for-covid-19-vaccine-management
 
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I suggest you open the link you want to share, and not paste a git from a search. Show that you have read more than a headline. It would make no sense to use blockchain to monitor and distribute vaccines. Only possible reason for it, would be neferias purposes. Why change a securitykey over and over for tracking a vaccine? Why hide what is supposed to be as open as possible for healthcare workers? No sense.
 

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I suggest you open the link you want to share, and not paste a git from a search. Show that you have read more than a headline. It would make no sense to use blockchain to monitor and distribute vaccines. Only possible reason for it, would be neferias purposes. Why change a securitykey over and over for tracking a vaccine? Why hide what is supposed to be as open as possible for healthcare workers? No sense.
Unless you want the currency to be a blockchain and make your access to that currency to only be for those who are vaccinated. If the blockchain is the only currency you wouldn't be able to buy or sell without the vaccine.
 
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Unless you want the currency to be a blockchain and make your access to that currency to only be for those who are vaccinated. If the blockchain is the only currency you wouldn't be able to buy or sell without the vaccine.
What are you trying to infer? I do not care if the currency would end up as cryptocurrency, do not care if supposedly some could be barred from participating in it unless they take the vaccine. Which btw, is counter to the actual tech, the blockchains are decentralized, not on one server being controlled by an authority. That is the point, a currency for those who are denied bankaccounts and creditcards. I am sticking to a bankaccount, I would not want to lose money, because I lose a password.

I am just interested in cryptography as a technology and tool, in regards to getting a free internet back. So that the kids being born today, does not grow up in a digital gulag, mkay? And you and OP does not know the basics of cryptography, if this socalled article makes sense, or says what he seems to think. All the tools to block out unvaccinated in the US, is available, using cryptography would only make an easy job, much harder and take longer.
 

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What are you trying to infer?
Not trying to "infer" anything, I am stating plainly and clearly. They have already made it clear that vaccine passports will be used to determine who can buy or sell. It may not be a hard and fast law worldwide yet, but there is no need to infer that this is what they are planning to do, they have said so plainly.

We also know that people are making counterfeit passports which will lay the groundwork with a "mark of the beast". You will be able to wave your hand over a reader that will see you have been vaccinated, you are "up to date" and also might as well use the same reader to buy or sell, similar to a credit card.
 
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Not trying to "infer" anything, I am stating plainly and clearly. They have already made it clear that vaccine passports will be used to determine who can buy or sell. It may not be a hard and fast law worldwide yet, but there is no need to infer that this is what they are planning to do, they have said so plainly.

We also know that people are making counterfeit passports which will lay the groundwork with a "mark of the beast". You will be able to wave your hand over a reader that will see you have been vaccinated, you are "up to date" and also might as well use the same reader to buy or sell, similar to a credit card.
Infer about me, because cryptography is one of my hobbies and field of study. Since I have conversated with others about it. Which you seem to have checked out. So I am telling you that I do not care about the currency, and how you might get blocked from participating in society without a vaccine passport. Not my focus, and telling you you obviously have cryptography backwards, and do not know that each blockchain is stored on separate servers, which is what makes it as safe as can be for now. If people want to hide their money. Write a "funny" post about this in the conspiracysection, if you try to goad people and think you are clever. Like your last thread started, which was woeful.

So, I am just doing the blockchain/cryptography/cryptocurrency thing here, since it is important. And clear up imsinformation on that subject, or misunderstandings that folks might have. It is fine with me if people believe that they will get microchipped, and Bill Gates can put them in hibernationmode each night at 8 o'clock so you are productive workers the next day. And it is fine with me, if it happens too. The sheep kind of need a shephard again. So if people do not follow God, perhaps it is best that the rest are monitored every step of the way, and told what to do. Just look at USA today, 80% wants to end their civil liberties, so obviously not capable of thinking
 

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Infer about me, because cryptography is one of my hobbies and field of study. Since I have conversated with others about it. Which you seem to have checked out. So I am telling you that I do not care about the currency, and how you might get blocked from participating in society without a vaccine passport. Not my focus, and telling you you obviously have cryptography backwards, and do not know that each blockchain is stored on separate servers, which is what makes it as safe as can be for now. If people want to hide their money. Write a "funny" post about this in the conspiracysection, if you try to goad people and think you are clever. Like your last thread started, which was woeful.

So, I am just doing the blockchain/cryptography/cryptocurrency thing here, since it is important. And clear up imsinformation on that subject, or misunderstandings that folks might have. It is fine with me if people believe that they will get microchipped, and Bill Gates can put them in hibernationmode each night at 8 o'clock so you are productive workers the next day. And it is fine with me, if it happens too. The sheep kind of need a shephard again. So if people do not follow God, perhaps it is best that the rest are monitored every step of the way, and told what to do. Just look at USA today, 80% wants to end their civil liberties, so obviously not capable of thinking
Sorry, not aware that your issue was the blockchain portion of what was said instead of the "mark of the beast" portion. I will try to remember in the future that you don't care about the mark of the beast. I highly doubt that the blockchain you are familiar with is what a "one world government" would agree to use because it prevents them from being able to simply print money whenever they want.

Blockchain technology has several advantages but let's just focus on that one advantage, it prevents any country from simply printing money which is a form of stealing that the government uses and calls "inflation". I don't see a government run by the Antichrist and sold by the False prophet doing that. Instead they will want a monopoly of all currencies that they completely control. So in that sense I see the mark of the beast as "the anti blockchain" (used instead of blockchain). Instead of preventing governments from printing money they are preventing the serfs from doing any business without the use of their currency. That is how I read the Bible and human history.
 
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Sorry, not aware that your issue was the blockchain portion of what was said instead of the "mark of the beast" portion. I will try to remember in the future that you don't care about the mark of the beast. I highly doubt that the blockchain you are familiar with is what a "one world government" would agree to use because it prevents them from being able to simply print money whenever they want.

Blockchain technology has several advantages but let's just focus on that one advantage, it prevents any country from simply printing money which is a form of stealing that the government uses and calls "inflation". I don't see a government run by the Antichrist and sold by the False prophet doing that. Instead they will want a monopoly of all currencies that they completely control. So in that sense I see the mark of the beast as "the anti blockchain" (used instead of blockchain). Instead of preventing governments from printing money they are preventing the serfs from doing any business without the use of their currency. That is how I read the Bible and human history.
It makes no sense, you do not understand cryptography, and what a blockchain is. The blockchain is a piece of the cryptographycode as to speak, like 1 out of 100 files in a folder, that is needed to make an app run. The blockchainthing is that they are stored decentralized, so no entity has the control over all the pieces, making it tougher to crack the code, and thereby stealing the funds, if we speak cryptocurrency. So, if the point was to keep the federal banks, and current currencies, a socalled "one world government" would not use it, they would ban it. Money will still be printed, has no relation to that, governments need money to overspend, cryptocurrency is just an investmentobject to temporarily place funds in, that you convert to domestic currencies to spend.

Inflation and deflation will always exist. It is just a tool to set a value on production, and judge how countries compare to eachother, redirecting global investment, import and export. And if it was about blocking antivaxxers from being monotary in this world, you would only need to use some federal overreach, and instruct the paymentproviders to blacklist people, as has already been done. Demonotizing worked over the last years, so why change? Makes no sense.
 

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It makes no sense, you do not understand cryptography, and what a blockchain is. The blockchain is a piece of the cryptographycode as to speak, like 1 out of 100 files in a folder, that is needed to make an app run. The blockchainthing is that they are stored decentralized, so no entity has the control over all the pieces, making it tougher to crack the code, and thereby stealing the funds, if we speak cryptocurrency. So, if the point was to keep the federal banks, and current currencies, a socalled "one world government" would not use it, they would ban it. Money will still be printed, has no relation to that, governments need money to overspend, cryptocurrency is just an investmentobject to temporarily place funds in, that you convert to domestic currencies to spend.

Inflation and deflation will always exist. It is just a tool to set a value on production, and judge how countries compare to eachother, redirecting global investment, import and export. And if it was about blocking antivaxxers from being monotary in this world, you would only need to use some federal overreach, and instruct the paymentproviders to blacklist people, as has already been done. Demonotizing worked over the last years, so why change? Makes no sense.
You can't simply "ban it". You have to have total control over everything they buy or sell, otherwise how do you protect against bartering? If you can have bartering you can have blockchain. If you have the collapse of government it will quickly deteriorate to bartering and once that happens the politicians will be the first to be beheaded. I believe they are well aware of that and will do whatever it takes to make sure it doesn't come to that. The way they will "ban" blockchain is by gaining complete control over what people buy or sell with this "mark of the beast".
 
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You can't simply "ban it". You have to have total control over everything they buy or sell, otherwise how do you protect against bartering? If you can have bartering you can have blockchain. If you have the collapse of government it will quickly deteriorate to bartering and once that happens the politicians will be the first to be beheaded. I believe they are well aware of that and will do whatever it takes to make sure it doesn't come to that. The way they will "ban" blockchain is by gaining complete control over what people buy or sell with this "mark of the beast".
Sure they can, can make cryptocurrency a federal crime, and just jail people who gets caught having it for 10 years, that would stop it. All sorts of reasons could be given, threat to national security, terroris, taxevasion, etc. I suggest you make a post about this in the conspiracyforum, because no matter what you hear from cryptopeople, no way is the american or european currencies getting replaced by crypto in a few decades. And there cannot be produced enough cryptocurrencies to replace suc vast amount of cash anytime soon. It must be mined first, and you need a ton of new cryptos to make it feasible. And again, it is not domestic, so cannot replace, if it became ddomestic, it would defeat the purpose of cryptocurrency. If it became a federal currency, it wouldd go off decentralized servers and be on federally controlled servers, so point mute. Because a country must be able to control the finances, and put in measures if the national currency is crashing, or it is being speculated against, like when some billionaire hedgefund manager broke the bank of malaysia or whatever it was.
 

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Sure they can, can make cryptocurrency a federal crime, and just jail people who gets caught having it for 10 years, that would stop it. All sorts of reasons could be given, threat to national security, terroris, taxevasion, etc. I suggest you make a post about this in the conspiracyforum, because no matter what you hear from cryptopeople, no way is the american or european currencies getting replaced by crypto in a few decades. And there cannot be produced enough cryptocurrencies to replace suc vast amount of cash anytime soon. It must be mined first, and you need a ton of new cryptos to make it feasible. And again, it is not domestic, so cannot replace, if it became ddomestic, it would defeat the purpose of cryptocurrency. If it became a federal currency, it wouldd go off decentralized servers and be on federally controlled servers, so point mute. Because a country must be able to control the finances, and put in measures if the national currency is crashing, or it is being speculated against, like when some billionaire hedgefund manager broke the bank of malaysia or whatever it was.
I am not interested in Crypto and I agree with you that the "one world government" will get rid of it. However, if you have tax havens I suspect you will get crypto havens, so it won't be banned until you have one world government. I think a big part of the appeal right now is that it is a hedge against inflation, which has a universal appeal.
 
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I am not interested in Crypto and I agree with you that the "one world government" will get rid of it. However, if you have tax havens I suspect you will get crypto havens, so it won't be banned until you have one world government. I think a big part of the appeal right now is that it is a hedge against inflation, which has a universal appeal.
There will have to be a replacement for taxhavens, but crypto is not big enough for that, since we talk the largest corporations in the world getting ousted for that in the panamapapers. The problem with crypto for the rich and the corrupt politicians, is that it is open for the general public, it must be limited to only the elites, otherwise it must be stopped. If that is your concern, you will always have taxdodging by the rich and big companies, the method only changes, and new loopholes are paid to be created. I do not concern myself with such issues anymore, and think you should write it in the conspiracyforum. I have no interest in that anymore, wasted to many years being engaged in big stuff I cannot change. I try to focus on the biblical stuff now, and positive stuff, fun stuff. Bible, philosophy, historry, entertainment, sports and crypto. I suggest you live your life instead of getting annoyed at issues out of reach, that God may or may not sort out.
 
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I suggest you open the link you want to share, and not paste a git from a search. Show that you have read more than a headline. It would make no sense to use blockchain to monitor and distribute vaccines. Only possible reason for it, would be neferias purposes. Why change a securitykey over and over for tracking a vaccine? Why hide what is supposed to be as open as possible for healthcare workers? No sense.
I read the articles I post. I just choose to post excerpts I find interesting or informative.
 
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I read the articles I post. I just choose to post excerpts I find interesting or informative.
You did not post an excerpt, you posted a link to an unopened searchfind. I do not open those. And you made no single comment about the issue, so not warrented either. An excerpt is if you open said link, then copy a portion, then paste that, but you never did that. So I just informed you on that, and replied some others regarding crypto. And told you itt does not make sense to use crypto like this. It would be building an obstacle that does not exist in an open field for the ones that might be involved, in whatever conspiracy/truth, that I am not awere of.
 
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You did not post an excerpt, you posted a link to an unopened searchfind. I do not open those. And you made no single comment about the issue, so not warrented either. An excerpt is if you open said link, then copy a portion, then paste that, but you never did that. So I just informed you on that, and replied some others regarding crypto. And told you itt does not make sense to use crypto like this. It would be building an obstacle that does not exist in an open field for the ones that might be involved, in whatever conspiracy/truth, that I am not awere of.
The excerpt I posted is from the linked article I inserted in the post. That excerpt is pasted directly from the linked article. The link should take you directly to the article. I suppose it appeared to you like an unopened search find.

Please don’t suggest to me what is “warranted.” I will continue to post excerpts from the links I include. If I choose not to comment on the article I post, that’s my choice. I appreciate your insightful comments on this post and others I’ve read in the past.
 
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The excerpt I posted is from the linked article I inserted in the post. That excerpt is pasted directly from the linked article. The link should take you directly to the article. I suppose it appeared to you like an unopened search find.

Please don’t suggest to me what is “warranted.” I will continue to post excerpts from the links I include. If I choose not to comment on the article I post, that’s my choice. I appreciate your insightful comments on this post and others I’ve read in the past.
You do not know what an excerpt is, I cannot help you. Good luck
 
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You do not know what an excerpt is, I cannot help you. Good luck
The original posted link shown first and the one below lead directly to the same article that was quoted in the excerpt.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/hitinf...ai-blockchain-for-covid-19-vaccine-management

https://hitinfrastructure.com/news/ibm-moderna-explore-ai-blockchain-for-covid-19-vaccine-management

When I pasted the link originally from the article webpage it included the “google” portion from the url.

I see why you didn’t click on the original link and am sorry you feel the need to insult my intelligence and make false accusations/assumptions.