Fearing God

My feelings and relationship with God is complicated but very often the words in the Bible don't cover it. And, I have experienced church going people who thirst for the blood of the sinner, having no idea that God alone does the judging and I feel the sole function of the believer is to love and assist in healing the broken.

Prov. 1:7 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

I am not sure how to reconcile the difference between this passage and walking humbly beside God in Micah 6:8.

Most think its mist of God out side you can see and feel which isn't correct to the kingdom being in man, Luke 17:20And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: 21Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

having the mind of Christ (God) then you know who you are, Phil 2:5Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: No fear.

Many don't grasp what they have in themselves 2Cor 13:5Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?

Oh church going people are a broad spectrum of types... from the wackanoodle to some of the best.

Don't let the wackanoodles keep you away from the good stuff. It's kinda like California...nice climate and a great place but the homeless bums and attitudes make it a horrible place to live. There are some nice people there too ..but the ratio is really off.
Same thing with New York city...
(Yes, family and friends on both coasts....hey, I got issues with stopping being itinerant so I went with it)

I've been around the globe... friends from the places I haven't been. Respect for God, gratitude to God, scared of displeasing God, loving God, and treasuring God are the most common traits of them all.

So why are God's kids the biggest problem?
Think about the question and the answer. Surprising answers usually abound.

Scripture cannot lie.

Sola Scriptura, where idols are crushed to dust, where religion dies, where men come ALIVE and
where God is Glorified.

Are we allowed to believe the bible itself, which states there are a bunch of other writings and prophesies by bible-acknowledged prophets when those works are NOT included in the collection of books chosen by some group of men to be bound into a volume called the "bible" (a volume that was initiated NOT by scriptural command or prophecy, but by extra-scriptural action 300(?) years after th writing of Revelation e)?

BTW, that is NOT a question about ANY works created SINCE the bible... It is a question ONLY about books written by SCRIPTURALLY established prophets, which are named and referenced by the scriptures themselves as reliable sources for obtaining additional information on the subject that is only partially being covered by the scripture (not men) telling us about the other books.

I can find where the scriptures state that Jonah spake or wrote a prophecy regarding boarders. SO, I believe it to exist. And I can find where the scriptures state that particular prophecy to INDEED be the word of the Lord. So I could that word spoken by Johah (if ever found) to be compliant not only to Rev. 22:18, which talks about ADDING TO, but also 22:19 which talks about REMOVING SOME of the word of God.

What I CANNOT find (perhaps you can post one?) is a SCRIPTURE stating the need for a group of men (also not named in scripture) to somehow exclude some writings for their volume (remember Rev 22:19)....and then that people should rely on this limited volume instead of obeying the command to "Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." 1 Thessalonians 5:21 KJV

To me, it seems the statements of Revelation 22:18,19 would have been in effect at the time that particular committee decided to start selecting (again, not by scriptural command). So, IF you're looking for a place to start observing Rev 18&19, perhaps you should consider that it was already in effect when that committee gathered at the decree of a man (not scripture). THAT would send you running to God, instead of trusting the pronouncements of the committee.

Love in Jesus,
Kelby

Are we allowed to believe the bible itself, which states there are a bunch of other writings and prophesies by bible-acknowledged prophets when those works are NOT included in the collection of books chosen by some group of men to be bound into a volume called the "bible" (a volume that was initiated NOT by scriptural command or prophecy, but by extra-scriptural action 300(?) years after th writing of Revelation e)?

BTW, that is NOT a question about ANY works created SINCE the bible... It is a question ONLY about books written by SCRIPTURALLY established prophets, which are named and referenced by the scriptures themselves as reliable sources for obtaining additional information on the subject that is only partially being covered by the scripture (not men) telling us about the other books.

I can find where the scriptures state that Jonah spake or wrote a prophecy regarding boarders. SO, I believe it to exist. And I can find where the scriptures state that particular prophecy to INDEED be the word of the Lord. So I could that word spoken by Johah (if ever found) to be compliant not only to Rev. 22:18, which talks about ADDING TO, but also 22:19 which talks about REMOVING SOME of the word of God.

What I CANNOT find (perhaps you can post one?) is a SCRIPTURE stating the need for a group of men (also not named in scripture) to somehow exclude some writings for their volume (remember Rev 22:19)....and then that people should rely on this limited volume instead of obeying the command to "Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." 1 Thessalonians 5:21 KJV

To me, it seems the statements of Revelation 22:18,19 would have been in effect at the time that particular committee decided to start selecting (again, not by scriptural command). So, IF you're looking for a place to start observing Rev 18&19, perhaps you should consider that it was already in effect when that committee gathered at the decree of a man (not scripture). THAT would send you running to God, instead of trusting the pronouncements of the committee.

Love in Jesus,
Kelby

There are works that I have read from an academic point of view for their possible archeological value though I do not attempt to add them to the Biblical works. And, those who canonized the Bible were entitled to their point of view. I take Biblical Inerrancy with a grain of salt. That will make some scream in indignation.

And, those who canonized the Bible were entitled to their point of view.

I love this line. LOL

Thank you, mashallah. I get yelled at a lot, a consequence of really trying to know God, and to not treat him like a sugar daddy.

Would you be willing to explain what you mean about treating God like a sugar daddy? Thanks,
Kelby

A sugar daddy is a man that a woman attaches herself to where he showers her with gifts. I think we all know someone who sees God that way.

Yep, there are some groups who serve God for the fishes and loaves. Jesus corrected them in his day and we ought to do the same in our day.

John 6:26-27 KJV

The things Jesus was pointing towards ALSO yield fish and loaves when necessary but are much greater. Rigteousness, love, forgiveness, tender mercies, etc.

My question to you is "Why would anyone serve that other religion?" which might best be answered in direct message if you'd like to avoid persecution.

Love in Jesus,
Kelby