The Falling Away

2 Thessalonians 2:1-3 KJV - King James Version
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, ...

Privately, I believe we are experiencing "great falling away", and are are approaching the end. Part of my thinking comes from what I have seen with my own eyes in American culture. When I was very young, females could not leave the farm in pants. I was so young that it did not matter. These days, we wear anything we want. Women can own property and have our own Bank accounts. I believe that this has gone too far. We should be modest, reverent to God and winsome and supportive of the men in our lives.

I'm not extremely intelligent but am very curious, and love the study of Biblical Archeology. It seems that it all started around Southern Iraq, Persia and the Levant and there is still lots to learn about God by the study of what those people left behind. We talk about the return of Jesus the Christ, and I think that includes a 'Heavenly Host".

The Day spoken of here is the Day of the Lord. Literally and clearly what is spoken of cannot happen till after mid-way thru the tribulation. Dan 9:27. This one who we call the beast or antichrist will deceive Israel, but he will also be diplomatic and military man blessed by Satan himself. He will allow Israel to build the temple, bring the jews home to Israel, they will be prosperous for 3 1/2 years like in the days of Noah and Lot without fear of what is happening in the other nations.

The falling away happens by deceiving the leaders and people of Israel, he will be looked upon as a hero, keeping them safe from the troubles in the outside world.

I was in a Tribulationist church for many years. Seeing their reaction to the fallen and those in need of help and compassion turned me off to it.

The word, Armageddon, is taken from the Plain of Megiddo. On the plain of Megiddo there was a tel or mound wich was the remnant of what was the city of Megiddow.
When excavated by archeologists it was discovered there ewere many foundations of many rebuilt cities, twenty-four to be exact.
No this does not say much to me, but it sure is facinating.

In my depth of lack of understanding, I became Muslim and to this day still study it. In this difficult position, I believe that Jesus the Christ is the Son of God, and wonder why Muslims see him simply as the best Prophet. It is confusing. Please do not try to straighten me out.

Yes indeed, there's a great falling away. Those caught up in it don't see it, but those looking to God's word can see it plainly.

I'm a big Biblical archeology fan myself. So many amazing discoveries being made!

Hi Katia,

When you say you believe Jesus to be the son of God, what do you mean? I would be interested to hear. thanks.

I am studying the writings of the first men of the church like ignatius, Polycarp, Clement, and Origen tell of what the people of the first churches after Christ believed and lived. It was a very different church, then. People looked down on them because they lived differently than people of the world lived but it was often commented "look how they love each other". They united in their core beliefs but accepted many differences in doctrine among them like what day the Sabbath was.

I am finding that they were truer to scripture than we are, and it is always something man has added to scripture that makes the difference. Man added fighting over doctrine that is not core doctrine like salvation.. Man added that it is church councils that determine questions and not the apostles. Man often looks to culture and the world for answers rather than to the Lord.

Islam is clear: God has no sons.

The Living God is clear: Jesus is the son of God. We can only accept the Father is we accept the Son.

Today, the natural sons of Ishmael (the Arabs) are being called into the kingdom of God before the Jews. I believe this will be the catalyst that makes the Jews jealous: their wild half-brother receives the promises of the kingdom. Christians like to pray for the Jews but they should also pray for the Arabs.

P.S. For clarity: "Arabs" is not synonymous with "Muslims". A Muslim is one who follows the tenants of Islam. Muslims worship a different god who has no sons.

I politely disagree with what you say about Muslims. They worship the same God as us but their culture has prevented the proper education. I was deeply immersed in it for several years and could see it.

Islam created their culture.

I've studied the Haddith and Koran. Their god is not the Living God of the Bible. In the areas they are similar, Muhammad acquiesced to appease the multi-faith population. As Islam grew in influence and numbers, the writings of the Haddith and practices of Muslims became less accepting of others outside the religion. Historically there is no room for debate.

I would to talk with you more about this if you wish.

No, your mind is set. Go your way in peace.

The Day spoken of here is the Day of the Lord. Literally and clearly what is spoken of cannot happen till after mid-way thru the tribulation. Dan 9:27. This one who we call the beast or antichrist will deceive Israel, but he will also be diplomatic and military man blessed by Satan himself. He will allow Israel to build the temple, bring the jews home to Israel, they will be prosperous for 3 1/2 years like in the days of Noah and Lot without fear of what is happening in the other nations.

The falling away happens by deceiving the leaders and people of Israel, he will be looked upon as a hero, keeping them safe from the troubles in the outside world.

Katia: & Aaron56 bok-ker-tov! Hope we got that right.