-
Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.
If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!
To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
Replacement theology, as you have stated it here, is an incorrect doctrine. There is the tree where some branches (Jews and other Israelites) were cut off and wild branches (Gentiles) grafted in. The overlooked branches are the ones that were neither cut off nor grafted in. Not all Jews were cut off and replaced. The only elect is Christ and those that are in Christ. To reject the Jewish heritage and identity of the original Jewish Christians and their descendants is hateful, and it is unfortunate that we sometimes see self-titled Orthodox Jews propagating that hate and pretending that Christianity was intended as an erasure or replacement. It is a fulfilment! To be shared by all, and a joy that is welcome to all that have God’s love in their hearts. The Door is there to be shared by all believers (whether they realize they are a believer or not).
"If some of the branches have been broken off, and you, though a wild olive shoot, have been grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing sap from the olive root," - Romans 11:17 KJV
"If some of the branches have been broken off, and you, though a wild olive shoot, have been grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing sap from the olive root," - Romans 11:17 KJV
-
1
- Show all
P
This is the mantle I believe the Lord has directed me to pick up.
I would love all saints to recognize the Jewish Jesus. But sadly there is still a lot of rebuke and separation.
I think if more saint would study and explore this topic it would bring a lot of clarity that is needed today.
It seems that theology has become the new thinking for many.
Example.....studying the fall feast days and offerings gives you a clearer understanding of revelation.
Studying the passover ....better knowledge of what we refer to as the last supper.
Not only did the Holy Spirit put these bread crumbs in the scriptures he even put in such things as the preparations of them which are hardly discussed or studied. Much meat in the preparations also.
Israel is the physical we are the spiritual God unites both if it were not so then the word would never become flesh.....selah.
Jesus taught us how to pray and said " your will be done On Earth As It Is In Heaven" these are things of God not men....God's way of doing things.
Many believe God gave these things to Israel as rules and regulations which is so but these are God's ways....not man's..........hard for me to explain.
I would love all saints to recognize the Jewish Jesus. But sadly there is still a lot of rebuke and separation.
I think if more saint would study and explore this topic it would bring a lot of clarity that is needed today.
It seems that theology has become the new thinking for many.
Example.....studying the fall feast days and offerings gives you a clearer understanding of revelation.
Studying the passover ....better knowledge of what we refer to as the last supper.
Not only did the Holy Spirit put these bread crumbs in the scriptures he even put in such things as the preparations of them which are hardly discussed or studied. Much meat in the preparations also.
Israel is the physical we are the spiritual God unites both if it were not so then the word would never become flesh.....selah.
Jesus taught us how to pray and said " your will be done On Earth As It Is In Heaven" these are things of God not men....God's way of doing things.
Many believe God gave these things to Israel as rules and regulations which is so but these are God's ways....not man's..........hard for me to explain.
-
1
- Show all
it really is an amazing revelation when it happens that the mind of the flesh created by the law of works , changes over to the spirit and law of faith isn’t it ?
There’s such trust when we here the witness of Christ from the beginning until the very end of scripture
“I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.
He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.”
Revelation 22:13, 16, 20-21 KJV
There’s such trust when we here the witness of Christ from the beginning until the very end of scripture
“I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.
He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.”
Revelation 22:13, 16, 20-21 KJV
-
1
- Show all
“But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.
Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:”
Galatians 3:11-13
“And if a man have committed a sin worthy of death, and he be to be put to death, and thou hang him on a tree:
His body shall not remain all night upon the tree, but thou shalt in any wise bury him that day; (for he that is hanged is accursed of God
that thy land be not defiled, which the Lord thy God giveth thee for an inheritance.”
Deuteronomy 21:22-23 KJV
“The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
The Lord looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God. They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.”
Psalm 14:1-3 KJV
“Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.”
Ezekiel 18:4 KJV
“For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;”
Romans 3:23 KJV
“For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;”
1 Corinthians 15:3 KJV
“Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.
For ye were as sheep going astray; but are now returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls.”
1 Peter 2:24-25 KJV
“Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.
For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.”
2 Corinthians 5:20-21
“But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:”
Romans 3:21-22 KJV
“The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.”
Luke 16:16 KJV
“For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.”
Romans 1:16-17 KJV
“Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.”
Romans 3:24-26 KJV
“For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth. For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.
But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.”
Romans 10:4-5, 8-10 KJV
“So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.”
Romans 10:17 KJV
“It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.”
John 6:45 KJV
“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
John 5:24 KJV
Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:”
Galatians 3:11-13
“And if a man have committed a sin worthy of death, and he be to be put to death, and thou hang him on a tree:
His body shall not remain all night upon the tree, but thou shalt in any wise bury him that day; (for he that is hanged is accursed of God
that thy land be not defiled, which the Lord thy God giveth thee for an inheritance.”Deuteronomy 21:22-23 KJV
“The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
The Lord looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God. They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.”
Psalm 14:1-3 KJV
“Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.”
Ezekiel 18:4 KJV
“For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;”
Romans 3:23 KJV
“For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;”
1 Corinthians 15:3 KJV
“Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.
For ye were as sheep going astray; but are now returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls.”
1 Peter 2:24-25 KJV
“Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.
For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.”
2 Corinthians 5:20-21
“But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:”
Romans 3:21-22 KJV
“The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.”
Luke 16:16 KJV
“For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.”
Romans 1:16-17 KJV
“Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.”
Romans 3:24-26 KJV
“For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth. For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.
But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.”
Romans 10:4-5, 8-10 KJV
“So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.”
Romans 10:17 KJV
“It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.”
John 6:45 KJV
“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
John 5:24 KJV
-
1
- Show all
One thing when reading the gospels, Jesus came to die a vicarious death. IF the Jews of that day were to accept Jesus as the Messiah He would not have been put to death. The devil overplayed his hand, God used it to complete the final sacrifice for all once and for all.
Soon the original olive branch will return.
Soon the original olive branch will return.
I'm going to keep this rather short, but relatively simple. When dialoguing with the Jewish community (particularly those who claim NT authors mistranslated and misinterpreted OT texts), keep in mind these two things:
- That the OT found in most of our Bibles today (known as the Masoretic text) is a product that came hundreds of years after the NT was written.
- There are plenty of earlier Jewish sources that you can use against anti-Christian missionaries; most of the earlier Jewish commentaries tend to agree with the way the NT authors interpret and translate key passages. Use their earlier sources against them.
It is anachronistic to argue that NT authors misinterpret and mistranslate certain words and phrases, when the Masoretic text (the work of later Jewish scribes, the Masoretes) are the ones reinventing, and reinterpreting earlier Jewish thought.
For example, in Psalm 110:1, the much earlier Qumran text (DSS), which the LXX (the OT text underlying the NT) was largely dependent on, does not use adoni (like the Masoretic text), but instead uses Adonai (which is ironically, the supplemental term the Masoretic text uses for the Divine Name) in its place. Because Psalm 110:1 was frequently cited by Christians (of which, Hebrews 1 is an example), the Masoretes changed the vowel pointing in order to blunt its force.
Another example is found in Daniel 7:14, where the Son of Man is the recipient of true worship. Here, the Aramaic word “pelach” is rendered latreuo in the oldest versions of the LXX, a Greek term none deny refers to the sacred service (= “worship”) offered to God alone. And while modern Jewish commentators deny the Messianic import of this passage, this was not the case with the earliest Jewish exegetes. The Babylonian Talmud associates this passage with Messiah (Sanhedrin 96b-97a, 98a, etc.). A fragment in the Dead Sea Scrolls (4Q246) quotes this verse and calls the messianic figure “Son of God,” “Son of the Most High,” and “a great god of gods,” which indicates that the Qumran community looked for a divine messiah of some sort, and believed Dan 7:13ff referred to Him. The Midrash Numbers (13:14) says that Daniel 7:14 refers to “King Messiah.”
-
1
-
1
- Show all
I am not sure exactly what you mean. I believe all Christians fully understand that Jesus of Nazareth was a Hebrew of the Hebrews, born in Bethlehem, the city of David, of the line of David, and of the tribe of Judah. He came as Israel's Messiah/King, but Israel rejected Him. But Christ was not an ordinary Jewish rabbi. He was the Son of God, who performed miracles daily to show the Jews that He was their God. But He also exposed the sin and hypocrisy of the religious leaders of Israel, and explained to all the true meaning of the Ten Commandments, and all of God's commandments.
-
1
-
1
- Show all
Let's Get Biblical! Why Doesn't Judaism Accept the Christian Messiah? Hardcover – January 1, 2010
by Tovia Singer (Author)https://www.amazon.com/Biblical-Doesnt-Judaism-Christian-Messiah/dp/0615348394
Leaving Jesus: A Book Every Christian Should have Read before they believed in Jesus Paperback – January 29, 2012
by James Wood Jr. (Author), David Isaiah Dryden (Editor)
The Real Messiah? A Jewish Response to Missionaries. Paperback – January 1, 1985
by Aryeh Kaplan (Author)
Twenty-Six Reasons Why Jews Don't Believe In Jesus Perfect Paperback – January 13, 2007
by Asher Norman (Author)
Judaism and Christianity:: A Contrast Paperback – October 22, 2012
by Rabbi Stuart Federow (Author)
Answering Jewish Objections to Jesus Vol. 1-5 Paperback – February 1, 2000
by Michael L. Brown (Author)
You Take Jesus, I'll Take God: How to Refute Christian Missionaries by Samuel Levine (1980-06-01)
by Tovia Singer (Author)https://www.amazon.com/Biblical-Doesnt-Judaism-Christian-Messiah/dp/0615348394
Leaving Jesus: A Book Every Christian Should have Read before they believed in Jesus Paperback – January 29, 2012
by James Wood Jr. (Author), David Isaiah Dryden (Editor)
The Real Messiah? A Jewish Response to Missionaries. Paperback – January 1, 1985
by Aryeh Kaplan (Author)
Twenty-Six Reasons Why Jews Don't Believe In Jesus Perfect Paperback – January 13, 2007
by Asher Norman (Author)
Judaism and Christianity:: A Contrast Paperback – October 22, 2012
by Rabbi Stuart Federow (Author)
Answering Jewish Objections to Jesus Vol. 1-5 Paperback – February 1, 2000
by Michael L. Brown (Author)
You Take Jesus, I'll Take God: How to Refute Christian Missionaries by Samuel Levine (1980-06-01)
-
1
- Show all