... funny how well loved Spurgeon is ...

Or Bunyan come to that, the 2 most read preachers and writers since the reformation. And yet both were dyed in the wool Calvinists. Now I have never read Calvin, I decided early on not to, but Spurgeon has been ballast to my vessel for over 40 years. I have read many volumes of his sermons and all his other works.

Yet Calvin is lamblasted ... that is strange. I have serious objections to one or two of his doctrines but they are to me as it were dead flies in the apothecary, other aspects of his theology are truly as ointment poured forth. And Calvinism does seems to have produced a great many sweet christian disciples.

Or Bunyan come to that, the 2 most read preachers and writers since the reformation. And yet both were dyed in the wool Calvinists. Now I have never read Calvin, I decided early on not to, but Spurgeon has been ballast to my vessel for over 40 years. I have read many volumes of his sermons and all his other works.

Yet Calvin is lamblasted ... that is strange. I have serious objections to one or two of his doctrines but they are to me as it were dead flies in the apothecary, other aspects of his theology are truly as ointment poured forth. And Calvinism does seems to have produced a great many sweet christian disciples.

Here a few of my favorite quotes from Spurgeon:

"The day will come when those who think they can repair a house which has no foundations will see the wisdom in quitting it altogether. All along we have said that to come out from association with questionable doctrines is the only possible solution of a difficulty which, however it may be denied, is not to be trifled with by those who are conscious of its terrible reality."—The Sword and the Trowel, July 1889.

"Complicity with error will take from the best of men the power to enter any successful protest against it. If any body of believers had errorists among them, but were resolute to deal with them in the name of the Lord, all might come right; but confederacies founded upon the principle that all may enter, whatever views they hold, are based upon disloyalty to the truth of God."—The Sword and the Trowel, October 1888.

"My course has been of another kind. As soon as I saw, or thought I saw, that error had become firmly established, I did not deliberate, but quitted the body at once. Since then my one counsel has been, 'Come ye out from among them.' If I have rejoiced in the loyalty to Christ's truth which has been shown in other courses of action, yet I have felt that no protest could be equal to that of distinct separation from known evil."—The Sword and the Trowel, December 1888.

"Constantly we hear of proposals for union, and truly these are welcome where mere technical matters divide true Christians; but what is the use of pretending to create union where there can be none? There is another matter which needs to be thought of as well as union, and that is TRUTH. To part with truth to show charity is to betray our Lord with a kiss. Between those who believe in the eternal verities and those who constantly cast doubt on them there can be no union. One cried of old, 'Is it peace?' And the answer was a sharp and true one. We render it thus—'What hast thou to do with peace while departures from the truth of God are so many?' The first question is, 'Are we one in Christ?' And are we obedient to the truth revealed in the Scriptures? If so, union will necessarily follow: but if not, it is vain to clamour for a confederacy which would only be an agreement to aid and abet each other's errors."—The Sword and the Trowel, February 1887.

"For Christians to be linked in association with ministries who do not preach the gospel of Christ is to incur moral guilt. A Union which can continue irrespective of whether its member churches belong to a common faith is not fulfilling any scriptural function. The preservation of a denominational association when it is powerless to discipline heretics cannot be justified on the grounds of the preservation of 'Christian unity'. . .It is error which breaks the unity of churches, and to remain in a denominational alignment which condones error is to support schism."—The Forgotten Spurgeon, pp. 164-165.

I'm not familiar with his work.
Was he a Baptist then? Is this where the Baptist denomination began?

Here’s a short, well-done documentary on Spurgeon, free right now via the Tubi TV app. It starts with him as a young man, just before he came to saving faith in Christ. Enjoy

https://tubitv.com/video/517834

... the Free Grace [Calvinists] crowd nothing was stirring.
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Say's I can't get it in Europe (region)

Whats the name of it it Deuteronomy and I'll check youtube, cheers

Hi Phil, well, bummer

The movie is called, Charles Spurgeon: The People's Preacher. It was released in 2010 and it's 70 minutes long, just FYI, and it's a movie blended together with a narrated documentary (on location in England).

It used to stream on Amazon Prime in HD or SD (free for Amazon Prime members), but now you can rent or buy it from them, but in SD only (at least here in the States anyway).

It's also available in DVD and Blu Ray, just FYI.

Hopefully you'll be able to find in on YouTube

God bless you!

~Deut

^ Thank you for the overview. Not one of my areas of study.
Reading every theologan's work & commentary through the modern age of The Church doesn't appeal to me personally.
I have no idea what Methodists or most of the dozens of other denominations do or believe, let alone their histories.
Not that I would never read one of Mr Spurgeon's books, they just haven't been on my radar.


The reason I asked about Baptists is because I have noticed there are a few on this sight who are angry all the time. It makes me wonder what's wrong with them sometimes. Though I don't reckon all Baptists are the same. I was looking into attending a Baptist church for a while because of the location but know very little about them.

^ Spelling! I mean Theologian Not Theologan.
I wish the edit feature didn't time out so quickly.

^ Thank you for the overview. Not one of my areas of study.
Reading every theologan's work & commentary through the modern age of The Church doesn't appeal to me personally.
I have no idea what Methodists or most of the dozens of other denominations do or believe, let alone their histories.
Not that I would never read one of Mr Spurgeon's books, they just haven't been on my radar.


The reason I asked about Baptists is because I have noticed there are a few on this sight who are angry all the time. It makes me wonder what's wrong with them sometimes. Though I don't reckon all Baptists are the same. I was looking into attending a Baptist church for a while because of the location but know very little about them.

The reason why Spurgeon is important to me is because he has the theology and doctrines that Pentecostals and Charismatics need so badly.

Or Bunyan come to that, the 2 most read preachers and writers since the reformation. And yet both were dyed in the wool Calvinists. Now I have never read Calvin, I decided early on not to, but Spurgeon has been ballast to my vessel for over 40 years. I have read many volumes of his sermons and all his other works.

Yet Calvin is lamblasted ... that is strange. I have serious objections to one or two of his doctrines but they are to me as it were dead flies in the apothecary, other aspects of his theology are truly as ointment poured forth. And Calvinism does seems to have produced a great many sweet christian disciples.

Paul would ask us if we were of Luther or Calvin or Sturgeon or Christ.