If smoking ciggerettes was around at the time of Jesus would it have been classed a sin

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de-emerald

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Yeah, I understand about the motions. I miss smoking with my coffee. I would consider 1/2 pack a day to be moderation. There is not a lot of love in the Bible Discussion Forum (BDF) but that's the nature of the beast. Mainly I hang out in the Singles forum. Most friendliest laid back thread is Speak Your Mind (SYM). Strange as it may seem it was put into the BDF as sort of an oasis. I put the occasional post in there. Most of the peeps there are frequent regular contributors. Good people.
Having your cake and eating your cake is one thing. but eating your cake and advicing its ok to smoke half a pack aday in moderation because you do is not biblical concerning cigarettes. and you know it.
 

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He is liked here.
Seems to have excellent character
are you looking for more confrontation ? if you will attempt to destroy a person character for giving loving advice then i think its your character that is out of line.
 

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Yeah, I understand about the motions. I miss smoking with my coffee. I would consider 1/2 pack a day to be moderation. There is not a lot of love in the Bible Discussion Forum (BDF) but that's the nature of the beast. Mainly I hang out in the Singles forum. Most friendliest laid back thread is Speak Your Mind (SYM). Strange as it may seem it was put into the BDF as sort of an oasis. I put the occasional post in there. Most of the peeps there are frequent regular contributors. Good people.
Quoting there is not much love from people in the bible study because we dont agree with smoking has got to be one of the biggest insults from a christian i have ever herd. some of you people here really are complerely out of order and cruel in there character assationation of people. it realy is twisted to say what your saying here sorry.
 

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Quoting there is not much love from people in the bible study because we dont agree with smoking has got to be one of the biggest insults from a christian i have ever herd. some of you people here really are complerely out of order and cruel in there character assationation of people. it realy is twisted to say what your saying here sorry.
Would this post be typical of the love in this forum?
 

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Your way of the mark with your assumptions, Its sounds like some of the smokers in here would rather attack peoples personality than recieve sound advice and hide behide scripture to excuse themselves, and then use scripture to judge others, Jesus called that being a hipocrite.
Actually, I'm an ex smoker but I get your drift. Haven't seen any smokers attacking anyone in this thread. It seems like a civil discourse to me. I must be missing something here.
 

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Quoting there is not much love from people in the bible study because we dont agree with smoking has got to be one of the biggest insults from a christian i have ever herd. some of you people here really are complerely out of order and cruel in there character assationation of people. it realy is twisted to say what your saying here sorry.
I was really not referring to this thread but to the Bible Discussion Forum as a whole. Through the years I have seen members viscously maligned because their views were contrary to the views of another. I am sorry you took offense to my posts as it was not my intent to harm. In my profile page is a list of those that I follow. It is a rather short list. It is a list of peeps that do show love in my estimation. You are on that list.
 

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I was really not referring to this thread but to the Bible Discussion Forum as a whole. Through the years I have seen members viscously maligned because their views were contrary to the views of another. I am sorry you took offense to my posts as it was not my intent to harm. In my profile page is a list of those that I follow. It is a rather short list. It is a list of peeps that do show love in my estimation. You are on that list.
I know when the devil or one of his demons is tempting, i totally know the mindset of fallen cheribum there powers and abilities the lot, when a demon cheribum is tempting you to do something like having a cigarette then theres a reason for it.. Its more than just sin, infact we should forget smoking is a possible sin for now, and call it temptation from a demon to gain a foothold on the intended victim.

Its sad to me that people cant recognise temptation, theres so many christians on this forum that dont recognise temptation. To them the idea of having a cigarette is perfectly exceptable and perfectly there own thought to no doubt. then seeing people use scripture to suit there own needs is another way how temptation works, i know the glorified language of temptation from demons i know how to beat them how to identfy them i can see them, i can even smell them. thats right demons have a smell too. i know everything about them, and how to beat them, only through a life of abuse do i know this, im definately most qualified here.


The reality is that when people dont know when there thoughts are being tricked by temptation then they wil never know there enemy. and chritianity will never be the faith it should be, which is a faith that defeats spiritual wicked forces.
 
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I know when the devil or one of his demons is tempting, i totally know the mindset of fallen cheribum there powers and abilities the lot, when a demon cheribum is tempting you to do something like having a cigarette then theres a reason for it.. Its more than just sin, infact we should forget smoking is a possible sin for now, and call it temptation from a demon to gain a foothold on the intended victim.

Its sad to me that people cant recognise temptation, theres so many christians on this forum that dont recognise temptation. To them the idea of having a cigarette is perfectly exceptable and perfectly there own thought to no doubt. then seeing people use scripture to suit there own needs is another way how temptation works, i know the glorified language of temptation from demons i know how to beat them how to identfy them i can see them, i can even smell them. thats right demons have a smell too. i know everything about them, and how to beat them, only through a life of abuse do i know this, im definately most qualified here.


The reality is that when people dont know when there thoughts are being tricked by temptation then they wil never know there enemy. and chritianity will never be the faith it should be, which is a faith that defeats spiritual wicked forces.
Yikes. You're not supposed to spend time getting cozy with demons and smelling them. Christians are called to resist the devil and he will flee. Period. This sounds more like witchcraft or summoning demons.
 

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Yikes. You're not supposed to spend time getting cozy with demons and smelling them. Christians are called to resist the devil and he will flee. Period. This sounds more like witchcraft or summoning demons.
listen take your rubish else where, because thats what it is.
 

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Actually, I'm an ex smoker but I get your drift. Haven't seen any smokers attacking anyone in this thread. It seems like a civil discourse to me. I must be missing something here.
oh you havent have you, really the pigs will fly soon i guess too
 
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listen take your rubish else where, because thats what it is.
I thought what you shared was rubish, hence my response. And I will post anywhere at any time that I want.

How do you know demons so well? Do tell.
 

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Hi all dear brother and sisters. If smoking ciggerettes was classed as a sin, would you obey that law ?

Firstly there is no mention of smoking ciggerettes in our bible,

Actually in Genesis it says that Rebekah lit off a camel.
 

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Hate to think what the smog , pollution and other stuff in the air does to ones lungs , especially in China ...
All that goes into our bodies to...
We all have something we are addicted to , we must take the log out from our own eye before we can see the splinter in someone else's eye...
...xox...
P.S...I enjoy vaping , and my lungs are as clear as a good healthy whistle...
 

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Actually in Genesis it says that Rebekah lit off a camel.
I just read that a couple hours ago. She gave that servant of Abraham a drink of water and offered to water the camels. That was a sign from God that this is the woman to be the wife of Isaac.
 
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are you looking for more confrontation ? if you will attempt to destroy a person character for giving loving advice then i think its your character that is out of line.
I said he SEEMS TO HAVE GOOD CHARACTER.

Then here you come on attack mode.

That is unprovoked contention

Hateful and ugly
 

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are you looking for more confrontation ? if you will attempt to destroy a person character for giving loving advice then i think its your character that is out of line.
It is unclear whose character is attempting to be destroyed and by whom.
 

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Hate to think what the smog , pollution and other stuff in the air does to ones lungs , especially in China ...
All that goes into our bodies to...
We all have something we are addicted to , we must take the log out from our own eye before we can see the splinter in someone else's eye...
...xox...
P.S...I enjoy vaping , and my lungs are as clear as a good healthy whistle...
This really is not good advice @Rosemaryx the most most important part of being a christian is to have faith in Jesus, not addiction. addiction (nicotene controls a persons temperament (your nature and nerves) it should be the fruits of the spirit that control your nature not nicotene. this is the one thing certain of vapor pens.


2: Research Suggests Vaping Is Bad for Your Heart and Lungs

Nicotine is the primary agent in both regular cigarettes and e-cigarettes, and it is highly addictive. It causes you to crave a smoke and suffer withdrawal symptoms if you ignore the craving. Nicotine is also a toxic substance. It raises your blood pressure and spikes your adrenaline, which increases your heart rate and the likelihood of having a heart attack.


Is vaping bad for you? There are many unknowns about vaping, including what chemicals make up the vapor and how they affect physical health over the long term. “People need to understand that e-cigarettes are potentially dangerous to your health,” says Blaha. “Emerging data suggests links to chronic lung disease and asthma, and associations between dual use of e-cigarettes and smoking with cardiovascular disease. You’re exposing yourself to all kinds of chemicals that we don’t yet understand and that are probably not safe.”

3: Electronic Cigarettes Are Just As Addictive As Traditional Ones

Both e-cigarettes and regular cigarettes contain nicotine, which research suggests may be as addictive as heroin and cocaine. What’s worse, says Blaha, many e-cigarette users get even more nicotine than they would from a tobacco product — you can buy extra-strength cartridges, which have a higher concentration of nicotine, or you can increase the e-cigarette’s voltage to get a greater hit of the substance.
 
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This really is not good advice @Rosemaryx the most most important part of being a christian is to have faith in Jesus, not addiction. addiction (nicotene controls a persons temperament (your nature and nerves) it should be the fruits of the spirit that control your nature not nicotene. this is the one thing certain of vapor pens.


2: Research Suggests Vaping Is Bad for Your Heart and Lungs

Nicotine is the primary agent in both regular cigarettes and e-cigarettes, and it is highly addictive. It causes you to crave a smoke and suffer withdrawal symptoms if you ignore the craving. Nicotine is also a toxic substance. It raises your blood pressure and spikes your adrenaline, which increases your heart rate and the likelihood of having a heart attack.


Is vaping bad for you? There are many unknowns about vaping, including what chemicals make up the vapor and how they affect physical health over the long term. “People need to understand that e-cigarettes are potentially dangerous to your health,” says Blaha. “Emerging data suggests links to chronic lung disease and asthma, and associations between dual use of e-cigarettes and smoking with cardiovascular disease. You’re exposing yourself to all kinds of chemicals that we don’t yet understand and that are probably not safe.”

3: Electronic Cigarettes Are Just As Addictive As Traditional Ones

Both e-cigarettes and regular cigarettes contain nicotine, which research suggests may be as addictive as heroin and cocaine. What’s worse, says Blaha, many e-cigarette users get even more nicotine than they would from a tobacco product — you can buy extra-strength cartridges, which have a higher concentration of nicotine, or you can increase the e-cigarette’s voltage to get a greater hit of the substance.
I'm still waiting for your answer of how you know demons so well. On a Christian forum, it is crucial that we know.

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