What's the point of marriage ?

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RaceBoy

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If i remember correctly the bible state that marriage will no longer exist (between a man and a woman), so what's the point of getting married or even having a girlfriend ? Why go through the trouble of trying to find someone to marry only to lose them in heaven ? I personally look forward to sex with my future spouse (if i even get married) and even thought about raising a family. But for God to just take that all away seems unfair and unreasonable. Why even create marriage in the first place only to say "sorry you can't be together anymore you have to marry my son (Jesus)" I thinks its just unfair to remove someone i've spent nearly my whole life with, and make it impossible to have any children. So is marriage REALLY worth it ? or is it just a waste of time ?
 
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TheIndianGirl

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Marriage is the only way to procreate/have children. Otherwise, Adam and Eve would not have had any descendants. (I am not including children outside marriage as that is not biblical).

You are correct, earthly bonds do not continue into heaven. I do not believe there would be father, mother, spouse, children, etc. When asked who a woman with several husbands will belong to in heaven, Jesus confirmed there is no marriage in heaven and that we are all angels.

You are upset that there is no sex and raising kids in heaven? I agree there will be no sex in heaven, but there will be other children around I'm sure. There is no point to "raise" kids in heaven, as there is no reason to be taught right from wrong, etc.
 

Lynx

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Hmm, is it worth it...

That depends on how you ask the question.

"I need to find somebody because marriage is an important part of life that I DON'T WANT TO MISS OUT ON!!!" No, it's not worth it.

"Oh my goodness I met this person who is the coolest person I have ever met and I want to spend whatever time we both have together!" Yes, it is worth it.

The difference is in why you want to get married. If it's just to check a box on the "achievements in my life" list, no it's not worth it. If it's because you know somebody and want to marry the person, yes it's worth it.
 

tourist

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The point of marriage for me is to love and be loved. Despite working on my 3rd (and last) marriage I have been single over half my adult life. Basically, work, eat, sleep. For years. Had more money that's for sure. Life was more care-free, less responsibility. Did whatever I wanted, whenever I wanted, wherever I wanted. Still, for me it seemed like sort of a selfish life. In the end loneliness got to me. It is not so bad being married to your best friend. Have had some good times, and hard times. More of a struggle but more satisfying. Well worth the cost of admission.
 

Icedaisey

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If marriage were the only way to propagate the human race there wouldn't be countless single parents out there. And many, because I know a few, inspired to make more because they literally are paid to breed as single mothers.
Talk about putting the stimulus in, stimulus checks!

Marriage is suppose to be between one man and one woman for the rest of their respective lives. The divorce rate among Christians shows we don't believe that so much.
I think we worry overmuch about what will God think. It's egoism and selfishness to the extreme I think to first believe God gave us his word, rightly discerned, to guide us in this life and world. And then in concert with that imagine he, besides the ridiculous idea gender applies to God, has nothing better to do than to watch our every little move.

He predestined all things according to his will and plan.
LET GO AND LET GOD!

But do we?
If you marry the wrong person, divorce! How fickle are we anyway? One one hand , one subject, some will argue, but that's only for the Jews! Because they disagree with whatever ""that"" is. On the other, when they're particularly committed to something in the Bible they'll insist, "but that's God's command!"
Fickle!
Talk about easy believ-ism. I'll believe this part of God's command because it comports with what I want to do. But I'll argue against that part of God's command because it isn't.

I knew a woman who bought into the nonsense of, till death us do part, because she was led to believe God didn't believe in divorce.
Her husband was a violent drunk and womanizer. She was faithful to the end. He, being he was a loser and a cheat, imagined she was as guilty as he was in that respect and one day when he picked her up from work, after downing the last can of his 6 pack no less, and saw her talking to her boss on the sidewalk outside work just before he pulled up , on the sidewalk and then driving off it because he was DUI, hubby thought they were having an affair.
That night, after making her get more beer on the way home, he beat her to death while she slept.

Oh, but don't you know, the pastor who advised her through "God's word", to pray and stay married to the brute because God abhorred divorce, gave her a lovely eulogy.

Marriage is to be between two people who love and respect one another and want to walk through life together and make the most of it, while sharing and exercising the talents and gifts each one has to make it the very best life together. And to make a difference in the world.

If they outgrow one another, that's God's way of telling two good people to move on and find love and be loved elsewhere. This way they can seed goodness and mercy all the days of their life by enhancing their and others lives together.

Nothing is so tragic at a funeral than to realize the one laying in that silk lined box actually died to the joy of living their life a long time before. Because they thought they had to live miserable to please God.
 

cinder

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If i remember correctly the bible state that marriage will no longer exist (between a man and a woman), so what's the point of getting married or even having a girlfriend ? Why go through the trouble of trying to find someone to marry only to lose them in heaven ? I personally look forward to sex with my future spouse (if i even get married) and even thought about raising a family. But for God to just take that all away seems unfair and unreasonable. Why even create marriage in the first place only to say "sorry you can't be together anymore you have to marry my son (Jesus)" I thinks its just unfair to remove someone i've spent nearly my whole life with, and make it impossible to have any children. So is marriage REALLY worth it ? or is it just a waste of time ?
I do not think your perspective is correct on this. What if heaven is not loss of the best things we had on earth, but rather the things we have on earth are just pictures pointing to an ultimate reality that awaits that is far better? And the difference would be like the difference between having a picture of ice cream and actually eating a bowl of ice cream. And while things will change on the other side of eternity, I'm not sure we'll lose. Assuming two believers are married, they'll both be spending eternity in heaven. I would think that whatever form of ourselves exists in eternity, it would include our memories and personality and so we'd remember each other; I don't think we really lose each other though how we relate to certain people may change. But the Bible also talks about us as the body of Christ, we talk about the family of God (and there's that great passage where Jesus says that anyone who does God's will is his father, mother, sister and brother), and somehow collectively we're all the one singular bride of Christ, so I think maybe it's not going to be so much like losing family as it is our family will be greatly expanded and we'll enjoy the closeness with everyone that in our current finite state we could only enjoy with a few people.

It's just possible that marriage and sex no longer exist in the afterlife because they aren't necessary anymore quite possibly because something even better has taken their place. After all our whole experience and marriage and sex on earth are tainted by the fall, in heaven that taint will have been removed and if we can imagine big enough we might just be able to imagine that there is something bigger and better but similar that God couldn't let us have on earth because the potential for harm from misuse was greater.

Is marriage worth it? A lot of people seem to think so, even through some horrible stuff. But deciding if something is worth the cost is a personal matter. Should I ever meet a guy I think is worth the cost of marriage, then yes it will be worth it, until then it's not.
 

Subhumanoidal

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If i remember correctly the bible state that marriage will no longer exist (between a man and a woman), so what's the point of getting married or even having a girlfriend ? Why go through the trouble of trying to find someone to marry only to lose them in heaven ? I personally look forward to sex with my future spouse (if i even get married) and even thought about raising a family. But for God to just take that all away seems unfair and unreasonable. Why even create marriage in the first place only to say "sorry you can't be together anymore you have to marry my son (Jesus)" I thinks its just unfair to remove someone i've spent nearly my whole life with, and make it impossible to have any children. So is marriage REALLY worth it ? or is it just a waste of time ?
The notion that if something isn't permanent it isn't worth it is false and I guarantee other aspects of your life aren't lived that way. So why single this one out?
 

SomeDisciple

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The notion that if something isn't permanent it isn't worth it is false and I guarantee other aspects of your life aren't lived that way. So why single this one out?
Right?

Raceboy, if God made a covenant with you to give you any car you wanted, but you had to give it back to him after 5 years, would you be like "Oh, no, I don't want it if I can't keep it for myself forever." ?
 

SomeDisciple

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Oh, and before somebody accuses me of misogyny or something for comparing women to cars....

“If you yourself do not know,

Most beautiful among women,

Go out on the trail of the flock,

And pasture your young goats

By the tents of the shepherds.

To me, my darling, you are like

My mare among the chariots of Pharaoh

Your cheeks are delightful with jewelry,

Your neck with strings of beads.”
_____________________________________________________


I love the Word of God. :)
 

tourist

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Right?

Raceboy, if God made a covenant with you to give you any car you wanted, but you had to give it back to him after 5 years, would you be like "Oh, no, I don't want it if I can't keep it for myself forever." ?
Sort of like trading it in for a newer model.
 

Tinkerbell725

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Marriage is probably worth it because every people I know when they meet me, all they could ask is when I am getting married? It was the first question asked after my recent office presentation. Lol!

I also have a friend who said she felt useless when she was still single. So I guess marriage is worth it for her. But I also met people who said congratulations you are single, as if they were traumatized by marriage so it was surely not worth it for them. The bottomline if marriage is worth it is a personal matter because everyone has unique circumstances in life.
 

GiveThanks

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Flesh and blood will not enter heaven, we shall be changed to spirits. 1Corrinthians 15:50-52

Spirits dont have romantic feelings. Not only that, spirits dont get sick and die. Spirits dont need to worry about taking vaccine or looking for a job etc.

So many sad and depressing realities of life that our human, imperfect body/nature goes through and all our sins. Praise Jesus, all this will come to an end 🙌🏾.
 

RodB651

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What's the point in marriage???

So you can flirt with your wife in church.
 

RodB651

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Yes, a man should pay attention during worship...

but in between songs, he could lean over and whisper in his wife's ear... " Hey, when we get home, let's pretend I'm Abraham and you are Sarah, we could come back to my tent, throw some steaks on the grill and pretend we killed the fatted calf"...

just sayin...
 

Desdichado

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There are other blessings and institutions that are merely temporal.

Marriage has value in this life. So does man-administered government. So does work on behalf of our Lord. That is, when they all hew close to Biblical counsel.

Relationships retain their value. The Lord will reign with Christians and angels as intermediaries. Work will still exist in its own glorified state.
 

Roughsoul1991

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If i remember correctly the bible state that marriage will no longer exist (between a man and a woman), so what's the point of getting married or even having a girlfriend ? Why go through the trouble of trying to find someone to marry only to lose them in heaven ? I personally look forward to sex with my future spouse (if i even get married) and even thought about raising a family. But for God to just take that all away seems unfair and unreasonable. Why even create marriage in the first place only to say "sorry you can't be together anymore you have to marry my son (Jesus)" I thinks its just unfair to remove someone i've spent nearly my whole life with, and make it impossible to have any children. So is marriage REALLY worth it ? or is it just a waste of time ?

1 Corinthians 3
New International Version

3 Brothers and sisters, I could not address you as people who live by the Spirit but as people who are still worldly—mere infants in Christ.

You are thinking worldly. Do you know that yes you will still know and love your wife but do you realize what Heaven will be?
 

Dymes

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Ok, please don't take offense but, you have a misunderstanding of heaven and Jesus. And when I say misunderstanding I mean a low view of heaven and Jesus. Again, NO OFFENSE because most of us have this view. Jesus is so grand, so glorious, so magnificent, that when you are in heaven you won't believe you wasted most of your life chasing meaningless things. He's such a treasure that any past relationship will be as dung to you. Your intimacy with your wife or your closest bond with whomever you are closest with will seem like the dust in the air. You will be so overwhelmed with His glory nothing else will compare. The problem is we are so earthly minded we thing the pleasures of this world will either rival or be better than heaven's. You must ask yourself why don't I see Him as great as the Bible tells us He is? God is the author of pleasure, the creator of joy, and it will be joy unspeakable and pleasures you've never known in heaven.

Marriage is a earthly covenant. It is to help you become more holy and pleasing in Gods sight. It is to show you how great the love of a spouse is, so that you know that the love of Christ is so much better.

You see, pleasures in this world are but a taste of things to come! It is supposed to get you excited for Christ's return! To fill you with hope and a joy unrivaled by non Christians. Yet, here we are almost dreading the 2nd coming of our savior. This is the problem of modern Christianity. Lack of passion and knowledge of our Lord. Again, if you have read this far, NO OFFENSE. This tends to rub people the wrong way.
 

Gideon300

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If i remember correctly the bible state that marriage will no longer exist (between a man and a woman), so what's the point of getting married or even having a girlfriend ? Why go through the trouble of trying to find someone to marry only to lose them in heaven ? I personally look forward to sex with my future spouse (if i even get married) and even thought about raising a family. But for God to just take that all away seems unfair and unreasonable. Why even create marriage in the first place only to say "sorry you can't be together anymore you have to marry my son (Jesus)" I thinks its just unfair to remove someone i've spent nearly my whole life with, and make it impossible to have any children. So is marriage REALLY worth it ? or is it just a waste of time ?
No, it's not a waste of time. Children born to (actively) Christian parents have a witness that the worldly do not have. While it's not a given that those children will be saved, it means that there are fewer lies to be dispelled and the world has less of a grip. No one saved because they are born into a Christian family, but,

1 Corinthians 7: 14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified through his believing wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified through her believing husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but now they are holy.

So there is a great advantage to children who are born to Christian parents.

A number of people seem to have trouble with the idea that God dispenses with marriage in heaven. I can't work that out. Marriage is until death parts the couple. Marriage is, among other things, a symbol of the relationship between Christ and the Church.

You might as well ask why we can't go back to the Old Testament law and practices. Who would prefer to slaughter an animal for forgiveness of sin? Nothing that God does is without purpose and nothing that He takes away is inferior to what He gives in its place. When we get to heaven, the idea of marriage in human terms will mean nothing compared to the relationship that we have there.