What is the different between Purgatory and Hell?
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Purgatory is a Roman Catholic doctrine which says it is a place of suffering inhabited by sinners in which the priests can pray for their loved ones and purify the sinner which allows them to enter heaven. During a mass for a burial a collection is made for this purpose. Greatest scam this church ran and made lots of money.
Only truth here is the unrighteous person is in torment.
Even today most people's understanding is not correct after death. I recommend of a study of the words Shoel and Hades. Many english bibles have changed the meaning and the names. Take Sheol from the old testament where they change it to the word grave. Sheol and Hades have same understanding, one comes from the Hebrew, the other from the greek.
Hades and Sheol is the temporary abode for the dead, both righteous and unrighteous which contains a place of torment and Paradise seperated by a void.
Only truth here is the unrighteous person is in torment.
Even today most people's understanding is not correct after death. I recommend of a study of the words Shoel and Hades. Many english bibles have changed the meaning and the names. Take Sheol from the old testament where they change it to the word grave. Sheol and Hades have same understanding, one comes from the Hebrew, the other from the greek.
Hades and Sheol is the temporary abode for the dead, both righteous and unrighteous which contains a place of torment and Paradise seperated by a void.
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Purgatory is completely made up out of whole cloth by Catholicism. You're right, it's found nowhere in the New Testament.
Purgatory is another Catholic doctrine that teaches we can save ourselves. After a person suffers through purgatory long enough they become pure enough to merit heaven.
Only Christ's sacrifice and resurrection can make us pure in God's eyes and no amount of purgatory can help us if our faith wasn't in Him in this life. I would define Hell as permanent purgatory.
Purgatory is another Catholic doctrine that teaches we can save ourselves. After a person suffers through purgatory long enough they become pure enough to merit heaven.
Only Christ's sacrifice and resurrection can make us pure in God's eyes and no amount of purgatory can help us if our faith wasn't in Him in this life. I would define Hell as permanent purgatory.
Hello Minister01,
According to Roman Catholic teaching, when a person comes to Christ original sin and all past sins and sins up to the time they are Baptized are forgiven. After that, God's grace is in the hands of the priests, who proclaims sacraments to be performed in order to cleanse the individual of sins committed after Baptism. That said, every believing Roman Catholic will have sins throughout their lives that will have not be accounted for and therefore when they die, their spirits must spend time in Purgatory in order to be purified through fire. Since it is based on the sins of the individual, no one knows how long one must remain in Purgatory.
This teaching of course is in opposition to what the word of God teaches. First of all, you are correct in that you have not come across it in the Bible and that because Purgatory is a false teaching and does not exist.
The correct teaching is that, Jesus paid the penalty for sin once and for all. The word of God says that when we sin, that if we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and cleanses us of all unrighteousness (1 John 1:8-10). As believers in Christ, we can go directly to the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ and confess our sins and be cleansed of all unrighteousness and that without a priest or Mary interceding for us and without performing sacraments.
In regards to Hades, this is the place that the departed spirits of the unrighteous go at the time of death. This is the same place that the rich man of Lazarus fame went to who was/is in torment in flame, which is located under the earth. After the millennial kingdom, all of the spirits of the unrighteous dead throughout all of history, will be released and will receive a resurrected body mete for their punishment in the lake of fire. Everyone's name not found written in the book of life will be thrown into the lake of fire.
Gehenna, i.e. The Lake of Fire, also called everlasting fire and the second death, is the final place of punishment where all of those whose names are not found written in the book will be cast into. The beast and the false prophet, Satan, his angels, Death and Hades and all human beings whose names are not found written in the book of life, their place will be the Lake of Fire, which will be eternal conscious existence.
According to Roman Catholic teaching, when a person comes to Christ original sin and all past sins and sins up to the time they are Baptized are forgiven. After that, God's grace is in the hands of the priests, who proclaims sacraments to be performed in order to cleanse the individual of sins committed after Baptism. That said, every believing Roman Catholic will have sins throughout their lives that will have not be accounted for and therefore when they die, their spirits must spend time in Purgatory in order to be purified through fire. Since it is based on the sins of the individual, no one knows how long one must remain in Purgatory.
This teaching of course is in opposition to what the word of God teaches. First of all, you are correct in that you have not come across it in the Bible and that because Purgatory is a false teaching and does not exist.
The correct teaching is that, Jesus paid the penalty for sin once and for all. The word of God says that when we sin, that if we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and cleanses us of all unrighteousness (1 John 1:8-10). As believers in Christ, we can go directly to the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ and confess our sins and be cleansed of all unrighteousness and that without a priest or Mary interceding for us and without performing sacraments.
In regards to Hades, this is the place that the departed spirits of the unrighteous go at the time of death. This is the same place that the rich man of Lazarus fame went to who was/is in torment in flame, which is located under the earth. After the millennial kingdom, all of the spirits of the unrighteous dead throughout all of history, will be released and will receive a resurrected body mete for their punishment in the lake of fire. Everyone's name not found written in the book of life will be thrown into the lake of fire.
Gehenna, i.e. The Lake of Fire, also called everlasting fire and the second death, is the final place of punishment where all of those whose names are not found written in the book will be cast into. The beast and the false prophet, Satan, his angels, Death and Hades and all human beings whose names are not found written in the book of life, their place will be the Lake of Fire, which will be eternal conscious existence.
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Hell is a spirit who has the right to imprison unbelievers in the domain that bears his namesake.Quote
The idea of purgatory has roots that date back into antiquity. A sort of proto-purgatory called the "celestial Hades" appears in the writings of Plato and Heraclides Ponticus and in many other pagan writers. This concept is distinguished from the Hades of the underworld described in the works of Homer and Hesiod. In contrast, the celestial Hades was
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Purgatory origin from pagan it is not biblical doctrine et all
The idea of purgatory has roots that date back into antiquity. A sort of proto-purgatory called the "celestial Hades" appears in the writings of Plato and Heraclides Ponticus and in many other pagan writers. This concept is distinguished from the Hades of the underworld described in the works of Homer and Hesiod. In contrast, the celestial Hades was
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Purgatory origin from pagan it is not biblical doctrine et all
Purgatory is a Roman Catholic myth, so it would simply be a waste of time trying to compare it with Hell.
The Bible speaks of only two places for the unredeemed -- (1) Hades (mistakenly called "hell" in the KJV), and (2) Gehenna (properly the Lake of Fire or eternal Hell). Hades is the temporary abode of unsaved souls and spirits until the Great White Throne Judgment. After that all are cast into the Lake of Fire (which is presently unoccupied).
As for the saints (those who die in Christ), after the resurrection of Christ, they have all gone to be with the Lord as soon as they died (starting with Stephen).
So Purgatory is meant to teach Catholics that even though Christ paid for their sins in full, they too must pay for their sins, while they pay cash to the RCC to pray them out of Purgatory. Indulgences and Purgatory go hand in hand.
The Bible speaks of only two places for the unredeemed -- (1) Hades (mistakenly called "hell" in the KJV), and (2) Gehenna (properly the Lake of Fire or eternal Hell). Hades is the temporary abode of unsaved souls and spirits until the Great White Throne Judgment. After that all are cast into the Lake of Fire (which is presently unoccupied).
As for the saints (those who die in Christ), after the resurrection of Christ, they have all gone to be with the Lord as soon as they died (starting with Stephen).
So Purgatory is meant to teach Catholics that even though Christ paid for their sins in full, they too must pay for their sins, while they pay cash to the RCC to pray them out of Purgatory. Indulgences and Purgatory go hand in hand.
A true story. A thermodynamics professor had written a take home exam for his graduate students. It had one question:
“Is hell exothermic or endothermic? Support your answer with a proof.”
Most of the students wrote proofs of their beliefs using Boyle’s Law or some variant. One student, however, wrote the following:
“First, we postulate that if souls exist, then they must have some mass. If they do, then a mole of souls can also have a mass. So, at what rate are souls moving into hell and at what rate are souls leaving? I think that we can safely assume that once a soul gets to hell, it will not leave. Therefore, no souls are leaving.
As for souls entering hell, lets look at the different religions that exist in the world today. Some of these religions state that if you are not a member of their religion, you will go to hell. Since there are more than one of these religions and people do not belong to more than one religion, we can project that all people and all souls go to hell.
With birth and death rates as they are, we can expect the number of souls in hell to increase exponentially.
Now, we look at the rate of change in volume in hell. Boyle’s Law states that in order for the temperature and pressure in hell to stay the same, the ratio of the mass of souls and volume needs to stay constant.
So, if hell is expanding at a slower rate than the rate at which souls enter hell, then the temperature and pressure in hell will increase until all hell breaks loose.
Of course, if hell is expanding at a rate faster than the increase of souls in hell, than the temperature and pressure will drop until hell freezes over.”
It was not revealed what grade the student got.
“Is hell exothermic or endothermic? Support your answer with a proof.”
Most of the students wrote proofs of their beliefs using Boyle’s Law or some variant. One student, however, wrote the following:
“First, we postulate that if souls exist, then they must have some mass. If they do, then a mole of souls can also have a mass. So, at what rate are souls moving into hell and at what rate are souls leaving? I think that we can safely assume that once a soul gets to hell, it will not leave. Therefore, no souls are leaving.
As for souls entering hell, lets look at the different religions that exist in the world today. Some of these religions state that if you are not a member of their religion, you will go to hell. Since there are more than one of these religions and people do not belong to more than one religion, we can project that all people and all souls go to hell.
With birth and death rates as they are, we can expect the number of souls in hell to increase exponentially.
Now, we look at the rate of change in volume in hell. Boyle’s Law states that in order for the temperature and pressure in hell to stay the same, the ratio of the mass of souls and volume needs to stay constant.
So, if hell is expanding at a slower rate than the rate at which souls enter hell, then the temperature and pressure in hell will increase until all hell breaks loose.
Of course, if hell is expanding at a rate faster than the increase of souls in hell, than the temperature and pressure will drop until hell freezes over.”
It was not revealed what grade the student got.
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HEAVEN IS HOTTER THAN HELL The temperature of heaven can be rather accurately computed. Our authority is the Bible, Isaiah 30:26 reads:
Moreover, the light of the moon shall be as the light of the sun and the light of the sun shall be sevenfold as the light of seven days.
Thus, heaven receives from the moon as much radiation as the earth does from the sun, and in addition seven times seven (forty nine) times as much as the earth does from the sun, or fifty times in all. The light we receive from the moon is one ten-thousandth of the light we receive from the sun, so we can ignore that. With these data we can compute the temperature of heaven: The radiation falling on heaven will heat it to the point where the heat lost by radiation is just equal to the heat received by radiation. In other words, heaven loses fifty times as much heat as the earth by radiation. Using the Stefan-Boltzmann fourth power law for radiation:
(H/E)4 = 50where E is the absolute temperature of the earth, 300°K (273+27). This gives H the absolute temperature of heaven, as 798° absolute (525°C).
The exact temperature of hell cannot be computed but it must be less than 444.6°C, the temperature at which brimstone or sulfur changes from a liquid to a gas. Revelations 21:8: But the fearful and unbelieving … shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone.” A lake of molten brimstone [sulfur] means that its temperature must be at or below the boiling point, which is 444.6°C. (Above that point, it would be a vapor, not a lake.)
We have then, temperature of heaven, 525°C. Temperature of hell, less than 445°C.
Therefore heaven is hotter than hell.
Moreover, the light of the moon shall be as the light of the sun and the light of the sun shall be sevenfold as the light of seven days.
Thus, heaven receives from the moon as much radiation as the earth does from the sun, and in addition seven times seven (forty nine) times as much as the earth does from the sun, or fifty times in all. The light we receive from the moon is one ten-thousandth of the light we receive from the sun, so we can ignore that. With these data we can compute the temperature of heaven: The radiation falling on heaven will heat it to the point where the heat lost by radiation is just equal to the heat received by radiation. In other words, heaven loses fifty times as much heat as the earth by radiation. Using the Stefan-Boltzmann fourth power law for radiation:
(H/E)4 = 50where E is the absolute temperature of the earth, 300°K (273+27). This gives H the absolute temperature of heaven, as 798° absolute (525°C).
The exact temperature of hell cannot be computed but it must be less than 444.6°C, the temperature at which brimstone or sulfur changes from a liquid to a gas. Revelations 21:8: But the fearful and unbelieving … shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone.” A lake of molten brimstone [sulfur] means that its temperature must be at or below the boiling point, which is 444.6°C. (Above that point, it would be a vapor, not a lake.)
We have then, temperature of heaven, 525°C. Temperature of hell, less than 445°C.
Therefore heaven is hotter than hell.
