COVID 19 fake news

No one is claiming that the vaccine is 100% effective. What they are claiming is that vaccination reduces both the risk of being infected and the severity of the illness if someone gets infected anyway.

I'm old enough to remember when terrible diseases ravaged societies and wiped out families. When was the last time you heard of an epidemic of diptheria or smallpox or polio? People still die of tetanus when a vaccine is available. No one need die of rabies. But only if they will be vaccinated.

This is the big problem with "survival of the fittest". One person infected with Covid can spew out hundreds of millions of virus. If only 0.1% of those can get past the vaccine then those will be favored, it is still hundreds of thousands. Once a vaccinated person is infected they in turn will spew out hundreds of millions of virus that have gotten past the vaccine. If the vaccine is not 100% effective all you are doing is favoring the virus that gets past the protection. We already have several variants that do that and with 2 billion vaccinated people you have a giant pool of people for new variants to develop and spread.


And the way in which those vaccines were used is an effective approach. People who are younger than 30 and are healthy (not obese, don't have cancer, don't have asthma, etc) have a miniscule chance of dying from this disease. It makes no sense to vaccinate them, they will survive it if they contract it and they will develop natural immunity. We have three effective drugs to treat the disease. We already know it is anywhere from 80% of these that will not even show symptoms, and another 15% who will only have mild symptoms.

The reason we were able to stamp out the diseases you talked about is because we could go into a town with an outbreak and vaccinate everyone at risk quickly. It will take us a year to vaccinate 1/3 of the world's population and by that time there will be 4 or 5 new variants. Not only so Pfizer and Moderna have both come out and say you need a booster shot after six months. So even if you were vaccinated six months ago and it did help protect you then, that protection has worn off now.

I am old enough to remember when Americans could do the math and realize when the numbers just don't work out.

A vaccine is not a "magic bullet" instead it is one tool in the tool chest. Every single pandemic in human history had died out due to natural immunity from people who caught and recovered from the sickness.

Younger people will survive, yes. But the Also spread the virus, without knowing it to their parents, grandparents. Or are they old enough?
And you dont know if their will not come other variants, like D, which are hitting also younger people.

So as goverment then it is better to say: lets wait who will survive. Then to search solutions to fight a desease?

100 years ago around 25 000 000 people died because of influenca. They had no possibilities to create a vaccine.
We have today the possibilities, should we then avoid it to create vaccines?

Lies, damned lies and statistics.......... A lot of the discussion about COVID-19 seems to be based on hearsay and personal prejudice rather than facts from people who actually know stuff. One simple example. Some people jump on the statistic that vaccinated people can get COVID. Let's examine this. One country that reported infections among the vaccinated is Israel A substantial proportion of the population is vaccinated. Their fully vaccinated rate is 60%, compared with the world's average of 15%.

Statistically, it means that there is a much higher chance of a vaccinated person getting COVID, simply because there are more of them. If the population was 100% vaccinated then obviously 100% of the victims had the vaccine. It is easy to distort this statistic by saying that the vaccine is useless because every victim was already vaccinated. And it misrepresents the true situation.

No one is claiming that the vaccine is 100% effective. What they are claiming is that vaccination reduces both the risk of being infected and the severity of the illness if someone gets infected anyway.

I'm old enough to remember when terrible diseases ravaged societies and wiped out families. When was the last time you heard of an epidemic of diptheria or smallpox or polio? People still die of tetanus when a vaccine is available. No one need die of rabies. But only if they will be vaccinated.

If the vax doesn't prevent covid, what is the point?

What is the point? What is the point! What if the vax does other things that are extremely important but they just don't want to tell us because if they did then no one would take the vax? I think the safest assumption is that it does something, otherwise why expend so much effort and capital to get everyone to take it.

If the vax doesn't prevent covid, what is the point? It's a dangerous gene therapy that has killed more people in 6 months than all vaccines combined for the past 20 years or so. If this so-called treatment does not have a nearly perfect score, it's more dangerous than the disease. Speaking of cures, why have governments banned or made almost impossible to obtain hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin? These medicines have been in use for decades, and certainly are much safer than the vaccines (or would have been banned long before "covid").

Bleh. Precautionary principle. Good medicine means we don't have to prove your pupported treatment is dangerous to stop it. It means you have to prove it's safe before you deliver it. Bad medicine is what is being practiced. If it was just bad medicine, it could be resolved in the courts when vax-injured individuals sue Pfizer and Moderna and Astrozenica into oblivion. However, as the vax-companies and government know it is dangerous, they have granted legal immunity to these companies. So we move from bad medicine to biological warfare and treason.

It's easy to reduce the apparent symptoms of a disease. Certain drugs do it, and instead of people getting sick (and probably getting better), they appear healthier for longer but then suddenly drop dead. The vaxes seem to be having a similar effect. Of the hospitalised for the "delta" variant in UK, double-vaxxers at ~6 times more likely to die than the unvaxxed.

Oh, enough of the emotional blackmail. Even established vaccines are a scam. Diptheria and smallpox were almost eradicated before vaccines even came on the scene. And polio is/was caused by pesticides. Vaccines have done nothing but evil in the history of mankind.

Sorry to say, your post shows that you have no idea about deseases and vaccines.
Its more wise then to be calm, then to spread such content.

This post shows that you have no idea about people who have no idea about diseases and vaccines. Which is ironic, as you are one.

What is the point? What is the point! What if the vax does other things that are extremely important but they just don't want to tell us because if they did then no one would take the vax? I think the safest assumption is that it does something, otherwise why expend so much effort and capital to get everyone to take it.

The point is, and the data (you know what data is right? Facts???) shows that vaxed people who contract covid are far less prone to get really sick with the virus. In other words, it is the unvaxed who will suffer more with the disease and possibly end up fighting for their life. I realize anti-vaxers do not like these facts.

This is the big problem with "survival of the fittest". One person infected with Covid can spew out hundreds of millions of virus. If only 0.1% of those can get past the vaccine then those will be favored, it is still hundreds of thousands. Once a vaccinated person is infected they in turn will spew out hundreds of millions of virus that have gotten past the vaccine. If the vaccine is not 100% effective all you are doing is favoring the virus that gets past the protection. We already have several variants that do that and with 2 billion vaccinated people you have a giant pool of people for new variants to develop and spread.


And the way in which those vaccines were used is an effective approach. People who are younger than 30 and are healthy (not obese, don't have cancer, don't have asthma, etc) have a miniscule chance of dying from this disease. It makes no sense to vaccinate them, they will survive it if they contract it and they will develop natural immunity. We have three effective drugs to treat the disease. We already know it is anywhere from 80% of these that will not even show symptoms, and another 15% who will only have mild symptoms.

The reason we were able to stamp out the diseases you talked about is because we could go into a town with an outbreak and vaccinate everyone at risk quickly. It will take us a year to vaccinate 1/3 of the world's population and by that time there will be 4 or 5 new variants. Not only so Pfizer and Moderna have both come out and say you need a booster shot after six months. So even if you were vaccinated six months ago and it did help protect you then, that protection has worn off now.

I am old enough to remember when Americans could do the math and realize when the numbers just don't work out.

A vaccine is not a "magic bullet" instead it is one tool in the tool chest. Every single pandemic in human history had died out due to natural immunity from people who caught and recovered from the sickness.

Sure and how many unnecessary deaths occurred before that time? Spanish flu, for example. Around 500 million cases - 1/3 of the world population at the time. Around 50 million dead. Are you ok with that? If you are, you need to get a heart.

Sure and how many unnecessary deaths occurred before that time? Spanish flu, for example. Around 500 million cases - 1/3 of the world population at the time. Around 50 million dead. Are you ok with that? If you are, you need to get a heart.

No one is claiming that the vaccine is 100% effective. What they are claiming is that vaccination reduces both the risk of being infected and the severity of the illness if someone gets infected anyway.